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Operator error indeed!
We WERE right. You are damned to ever-lasting agony in suds-lock hell forever.
Keep adding water to that SQ, good thing it's easy to replace the bearings. Look at that thing - one fill uses more water than a large cap. belt-drive!
We WERE right. You are damned to ever-lasting agony in suds-lock hell forever.
Keep adding water to that SQ, good thing it's easy to replace the bearings. Look at that thing - one fill uses more water than a large cap. belt-drive!
surgilator_68
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This condition has nothing to do with loading or the unauthorized modification to the water level switch from customer #59. It is entirely the cause of too much detergent in very soft water.
Maybe a viagra will make the water hard?
Maybe a viagra will make the water hard?
Under All But The Most Extreme Circumstances
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever......... use the recommended dosage of any Tide "HE" or otherwise detergent, especially the liquid versions, and especially in front loaders. The stuff will create suds and froth like you won't believe and is darn near impossible to rinse away without serious intervention.
Ages ago when we purchased our first front loader, P&G had just launched Tide "HE" and we received a sample packet. Well did as the packet stated (am a idiot, aren't I?), and added the entire contents of the powder to the wash load, only to have a "Bobby Brady" moment in a matter of minutes. There was so much froth it was coming out the detergent dispenser drawer and trying to push out the door seals.
After stopping the machine and resetting to rinses several times failed to arrest the foaming, contacted our local repairman, he suggested adding a good dose of cooking oil to cut the foam. The suggestion worked a treat and soon as the washer was cleared out swore off Tide period, and went out to purchase Persil.
Being as all this may, Tide is the only "HE" detergent that has a totally unscented version, now that some damn fool at Henkel thought it would be a bright idea to add scent to the previously scent free "Persil Sensitive". So every now and then, thanks to coupons for a "free" container of Tide from P&G will get jug of the liquid, but use no more than 1 tablespoon, period.
Remember the liquids by now all are "2X", so a little dab will do.
As for the OP's original post, see that situation all the time at local laundromat. Not just with Tide but any detergent liquid. Persons pour capsfull into the machine as it goes into the pre-wash, then add more to the dispenser for the "wash". However since all liquids simply run down the dispenser the lot is flushed into the pre-wash which causes tons of froth. Does this stop them from adding more? No it does not, for many will eye that the detergent is "gone" from the "wash" portion of the dispenser and add more as the machine fills for that cycle.
It is quite common to see these commercial laundromat washers choked with froth spilling out from the door seals and detergent dispenser. Worse even after three or for rinses the machines are sitll full of suds. Have seen persons take said froth filled laundry out of the machine when the cycle is over and you can see froth still oozing up from the sump into the drums. To add insult to injury said saop filled laundry is now dumped into those high heat laundromat dryers to bake until golden brown.
Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever......... use the recommended dosage of any Tide "HE" or otherwise detergent, especially the liquid versions, and especially in front loaders. The stuff will create suds and froth like you won't believe and is darn near impossible to rinse away without serious intervention.
Ages ago when we purchased our first front loader, P&G had just launched Tide "HE" and we received a sample packet. Well did as the packet stated (am a idiot, aren't I?), and added the entire contents of the powder to the wash load, only to have a "Bobby Brady" moment in a matter of minutes. There was so much froth it was coming out the detergent dispenser drawer and trying to push out the door seals.
After stopping the machine and resetting to rinses several times failed to arrest the foaming, contacted our local repairman, he suggested adding a good dose of cooking oil to cut the foam. The suggestion worked a treat and soon as the washer was cleared out swore off Tide period, and went out to purchase Persil.
Being as all this may, Tide is the only "HE" detergent that has a totally unscented version, now that some damn fool at Henkel thought it would be a bright idea to add scent to the previously scent free "Persil Sensitive". So every now and then, thanks to coupons for a "free" container of Tide from P&G will get jug of the liquid, but use no more than 1 tablespoon, period.
Remember the liquids by now all are "2X", so a little dab will do.
As for the OP's original post, see that situation all the time at local laundromat. Not just with Tide but any detergent liquid. Persons pour capsfull into the machine as it goes into the pre-wash, then add more to the dispenser for the "wash". However since all liquids simply run down the dispenser the lot is flushed into the pre-wash which causes tons of froth. Does this stop them from adding more? No it does not, for many will eye that the detergent is "gone" from the "wash" portion of the dispenser and add more as the machine fills for that cycle.
It is quite common to see these commercial laundromat washers choked with froth spilling out from the door seals and detergent dispenser. Worse even after three or for rinses the machines are sitll full of suds. Have seen persons take said froth filled laundry out of the machine when the cycle is over and you can see froth still oozing up from the sump into the drums. To add insult to injury said saop filled laundry is now dumped into those high heat laundromat dryers to bake until golden brown.
Maybe a viagra will make the water hard?
Is that the new blueing for whites for Mrs. Smith???
Is that the new blueing for whites for Mrs. Smith???
aldspinboy
Well-known member
High sudsing TIDE Jon i had the same problem with liqid, learned very quickly hope you have it under control now lol.
Launderess..can you tell me why you did not use softner to cut the suds...?
Darren k.
Launderess..can you tell me why you did not use softner to cut the suds...?
Darren k.
Fabric Softeners
Are mainly of four types:
Animal Tallow/Fat (oil) based
Soybean oil based (so called "green" fabric softeners
Silicone Based
Quat and or surfactant based
Any oil will kill suds, hence the old housewives trick of sprinkling a pure soap on top of excess detergent suds (soap is made from fats and oils), so in theory fabric softener made from any of the first three will do the trick.
However many fabric softeners contain additives and sometimes to get where one needs to be in anti-foaming, requires a bit more FS than one would like. Pure oil or silicone (sold as anti-foaming agents for carpet cleaning and other commercial uses), will get the job done with less product and best of all the suds once killed, stay dead.
Silicone is the most common agent next to soap added to detergents to keep down sudsing.
Are mainly of four types:
Animal Tallow/Fat (oil) based
Soybean oil based (so called "green" fabric softeners
Silicone Based
Quat and or surfactant based
Any oil will kill suds, hence the old housewives trick of sprinkling a pure soap on top of excess detergent suds (soap is made from fats and oils), so in theory fabric softener made from any of the first three will do the trick.
However many fabric softeners contain additives and sometimes to get where one needs to be in anti-foaming, requires a bit more FS than one would like. Pure oil or silicone (sold as anti-foaming agents for carpet cleaning and other commercial uses), will get the job done with less product and best of all the suds once killed, stay dead.
Silicone is the most common agent next to soap added to detergents to keep down sudsing.
aldspinboy
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Vegetable oil...?
Silicone where do you get that...?
Darren k.
Silicone where do you get that...?
Darren k.
Anti-Foaming Agent
Google the term, and it should come up, usually under carpet cleaning supplies.
The stuff is added to tanks of those huge commercial carpet cleaning machines to control foaming.
Veggie oil?
Yes, used plain ole Crisco, as one wasn't about to use my very expensive imported olive oil! *LOL*
Google the term, and it should come up, usually under carpet cleaning supplies.
The stuff is added to tanks of those huge commercial carpet cleaning machines to control foaming.
Veggie oil?
Yes, used plain ole Crisco, as one wasn't about to use my very expensive imported olive oil! *LOL*
aldspinboy
Well-known member
lol..... Thank you i will try that.
Darren k.
Darren k.
vintagesearch
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ohh how i can understand this about a week ago went to the laundromat and used a frontloader to wash a full size thick mattress cushion i used wisk HE and holy crap the suds that sucker made i was like wooooooooow i have found that "he" liquid detergents suds up like no other in high water washes got the same results a few months ago with it in our toploader.
Thank YOU Surgilator68 and Laundress
for coming to the rescue here! The Tide Liquid Cult "TLC" here is obviously defiant and unrepentant!
Laundress never made the connection between fats and suds kill but always knew never to rinse the dishes as the fats keep suds down and protect the machine too. Yet original DASH used HYFAC451 which was hydrogenated fish oil as its "low suds miracle"!
for coming to the rescue here! The Tide Liquid Cult "TLC" here is obviously defiant and unrepentant!
Laundress never made the connection between fats and suds kill but always knew never to rinse the dishes as the fats keep suds down and protect the machine too. Yet original DASH used HYFAC451 which was hydrogenated fish oil as its "low suds miracle"!
Oh Randy I would
have loved to seen your mattress experience first hand!! I once did that in a pinch with Dawn in the GE bowtie dishwasher, when I ran out of Cascade. Man that upper grill across the machine front just spewed suds all across the kitchen floor! I only used a drop too. And when I rolled out the cabinet the entire tub was suds,I had to scoop them out!
Darren, I really like your new avatar, lonely boy at laundromat!
have loved to seen your mattress experience first hand!! I once did that in a pinch with Dawn in the GE bowtie dishwasher, when I ran out of Cascade. Man that upper grill across the machine front just spewed suds all across the kitchen floor! I only used a drop too. And when I rolled out the cabinet the entire tub was suds,I had to scoop them out!
Darren, I really like your new avatar, lonely boy at laundromat!
And a BIG SLAP
to you MR.Omaha Suds Lock!
to you MR.Omaha Suds Lock!
Cheat Sheet To Anti-Foam Agents
Silicones, oils, glycols, fatty acids,mineral oil, and other "oils" have a low surface tension which allows them to spread easily, especially over liquids (ever seen an oil slick on water?). Oils and silicones also can get between (for lack of a better phrase), the surfactant causing foam thus disrupting their building blocks, and down comes the froth.
If you look at the label on packets of those "anti-gas" tablets, they contain a type of silicone. Once ingested the stuff goes to work breaking up the bubbles forming the "gas" discomfort.
Yes, this is why when washing dishes and the water is too oil or grease filled, there won't be any suds. That is a signal it is time to dump and replace dish water with a fresh batch.
Silicones, oils, glycols, fatty acids,mineral oil, and other "oils" have a low surface tension which allows them to spread easily, especially over liquids (ever seen an oil slick on water?). Oils and silicones also can get between (for lack of a better phrase), the surfactant causing foam thus disrupting their building blocks, and down comes the froth.
If you look at the label on packets of those "anti-gas" tablets, they contain a type of silicone. Once ingested the stuff goes to work breaking up the bubbles forming the "gas" discomfort.
Yes, this is why when washing dishes and the water is too oil or grease filled, there won't be any suds. That is a signal it is time to dump and replace dish water with a fresh batch.
Faster, harder, do it again!
Quote: Yes, used plain ole Crisco, as one wasn't about to use my very expensive imported olive oil! *LOL*
Outside of the kitchen, pantry and home store-room I get nervous when I see Crisco in other rooms! LOL
Jon, dear admit it; you dosed it twice by accident. Just a function of our advancing age. Nothing to be ashamed of...........
(ducks and runs!) ooooh I'm going to get slapped into next week!
Quote: Yes, used plain ole Crisco, as one wasn't about to use my very expensive imported olive oil! *LOL*
Outside of the kitchen, pantry and home store-room I get nervous when I see Crisco in other rooms! LOL
Jon, dear admit it; you dosed it twice by accident. Just a function of our advancing age. Nothing to be ashamed of...........
(ducks and runs!) ooooh I'm going to get slapped into next week!
No Toggles you are gettting
KERRRRR>>>>>>>>>>SLAPPPPED!
Louis I need that code!
KERRRRR>>>>>>>>>>SLAPPPPED!
Louis I need that code!
passatdoc
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I always do what Launderess recommends...
....2-3 tbsp (30-45 ml) of HE powder detergent: Persil or Ariel when I can get it (either visit Europe or ask friends to bring it back), or Tide HE powder for everyday use. Tide HE doesn't seem to clean or wash out as well as Persil or Ariel, but at least it's routinely available.
I was programmed to stay away from liquids by European friends whose dispensers used to gum up with liquid detergents. I use only powders and never have any gummy residue. Hopefully the outer tub looks as good as the dispenser!
Was at Target yesterday to buy some gardening and household supplies. Walked past the powdered detergent section and noticed no Tide HE powder. Well, the shelves were empty above the placard for Tide HE. So either the stuff is flying off the shelves and they can't keep it in stock, or else it isn't being shipped. I hope it's the former.
As a substitute, I could try Sears Ultra Plus HE powder, but I read the specs and learned that it can also be used in toploaders. I am a little reticent to use something that is "approved for use" in both FL and TL machines, since it suggests that the manufacturer didn't really reformulate the product to be low-sudsing and clean-rinsing for HE machines.
Remember, the manufacturers want to sell lots of their product. The recommendations on the packages in the US are insane. Even in Europe they are a little high, but for instance the dosing chart for Swedish Via (= Unilever, same product as UK Persil) recommends 50 ml for "Low soil, low water hardness" as the low end of the dose range, but at least that's more realistic than what Proctor and Gamble recommend for Tide HE.
....2-3 tbsp (30-45 ml) of HE powder detergent: Persil or Ariel when I can get it (either visit Europe or ask friends to bring it back), or Tide HE powder for everyday use. Tide HE doesn't seem to clean or wash out as well as Persil or Ariel, but at least it's routinely available.
I was programmed to stay away from liquids by European friends whose dispensers used to gum up with liquid detergents. I use only powders and never have any gummy residue. Hopefully the outer tub looks as good as the dispenser!
Was at Target yesterday to buy some gardening and household supplies. Walked past the powdered detergent section and noticed no Tide HE powder. Well, the shelves were empty above the placard for Tide HE. So either the stuff is flying off the shelves and they can't keep it in stock, or else it isn't being shipped. I hope it's the former.
As a substitute, I could try Sears Ultra Plus HE powder, but I read the specs and learned that it can also be used in toploaders. I am a little reticent to use something that is "approved for use" in both FL and TL machines, since it suggests that the manufacturer didn't really reformulate the product to be low-sudsing and clean-rinsing for HE machines.
Remember, the manufacturers want to sell lots of their product. The recommendations on the packages in the US are insane. Even in Europe they are a little high, but for instance the dosing chart for Swedish Via (= Unilever, same product as UK Persil) recommends 50 ml for "Low soil, low water hardness" as the low end of the dose range, but at least that's more realistic than what Proctor and Gamble recommend for Tide HE.
