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ohh how i can understand this about a week ago went to the laundromat and used a frontloader to wash a full size thick mattress cushion i used wisk HE and holy crap the suds that sucker made i was like wooooooooow i have found that "he" liquid detergents suds up like no other in high water washes got the same results a few months ago with it in our toploader.
 
Thank YOU Surgilator68 and Laundress

for coming to the rescue here! The Tide Liquid Cult "TLC" here is obviously defiant and unrepentant!

Laundress never made the connection between fats and suds kill but always knew never to rinse the dishes as the fats keep suds down and protect the machine too. Yet original DASH used HYFAC451 which was hydrogenated fish oil as its "low suds miracle"!
 
Oh Randy I would

have loved to seen your mattress experience first hand!! I once did that in a pinch with Dawn in the GE bowtie dishwasher, when I ran out of Cascade. Man that upper grill across the machine front just spewed suds all across the kitchen floor! I only used a drop too. And when I rolled out the cabinet the entire tub was suds,I had to scoop them out!

Darren, I really like your new avatar, lonely boy at laundromat!
 
Cheat Sheet To Anti-Foam Agents

Silicones, oils, glycols, fatty acids,mineral oil, and other "oils" have a low surface tension which allows them to spread easily, especially over liquids (ever seen an oil slick on water?). Oils and silicones also can get between (for lack of a better phrase), the surfactant causing foam thus disrupting their building blocks, and down comes the froth.

If you look at the label on packets of those "anti-gas" tablets, they contain a type of silicone. Once ingested the stuff goes to work breaking up the bubbles forming the "gas" discomfort.

Yes, this is why when washing dishes and the water is too oil or grease filled, there won't be any suds. That is a signal it is time to dump and replace dish water with a fresh batch.
 
Faster, harder, do it again!

Quote: Yes, used plain ole Crisco, as one wasn't about to use my very expensive imported olive oil! *LOL*

Outside of the kitchen, pantry and home store-room I get nervous when I see Crisco in other rooms! LOL

Jon, dear admit it; you dosed it twice by accident. Just a function of our advancing age. Nothing to be ashamed of...........

(ducks and runs!) ooooh I'm going to get slapped into next week!
 
I always do what Launderess recommends...

....2-3 tbsp (30-45 ml) of HE powder detergent: Persil or Ariel when I can get it (either visit Europe or ask friends to bring it back), or Tide HE powder for everyday use. Tide HE doesn't seem to clean or wash out as well as Persil or Ariel, but at least it's routinely available.

I was programmed to stay away from liquids by European friends whose dispensers used to gum up with liquid detergents. I use only powders and never have any gummy residue. Hopefully the outer tub looks as good as the dispenser!

Was at Target yesterday to buy some gardening and household supplies. Walked past the powdered detergent section and noticed no Tide HE powder. Well, the shelves were empty above the placard for Tide HE. So either the stuff is flying off the shelves and they can't keep it in stock, or else it isn't being shipped. I hope it's the former.

As a substitute, I could try Sears Ultra Plus HE powder, but I read the specs and learned that it can also be used in toploaders. I am a little reticent to use something that is "approved for use" in both FL and TL machines, since it suggests that the manufacturer didn't really reformulate the product to be low-sudsing and clean-rinsing for HE machines.

Remember, the manufacturers want to sell lots of their product. The recommendations on the packages in the US are insane. Even in Europe they are a little high, but for instance the dosing chart for Swedish Via (= Unilever, same product as UK Persil) recommends 50 ml for "Low soil, low water hardness" as the low end of the dose range, but at least that's more realistic than what Proctor and Gamble recommend for Tide HE.
 
Jon,

Half of the #1 line of Tide HE in my Miele oversuds. Head back to the Wisk HE if you are going to use liquid. Oddly, Mexican Ariel liquids in my machines are less sudsy than Tide HE.
 
If that SQ had a couple of speakers ....

...she would tell you it with Debbie's voice :

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Well then, here we are near the end of a big load washing in my Speed Queen washer with Tide HE Liquid measured to line "2" on the cap and what do we see?? That's right, NO oversudsing! In fact, almost no suds at all!

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Thanks for posting the video Greg. That is exactly the results that I get with liquid tide HE. I did four load yesterday with no sudsing issues.
 
A few drops of silicone emulsion will remedy any sudsing problem...

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>...he suggested adding a good dose of cooking oil to cut the foam.

A few capfuls of fabric softener will do the same thing, and not subject your plumbing and septic/sewer to an oil buildup.
 
Oh Jon, no we weren't avoiding it we were just waiting for you to bring it up! Running fast!!!!
 
Jon you know that liquid Tide HE and Dawn are both the very same color, now it is just possible that you have them mixed up.!!! I feel another slap coming!!!
 
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