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My Maytag is going on 25 years, still works fairly well.  I did replace the shredder ring once a number of years ago, not sure if they are still available, would like to find one at some point.
 
If you are getting drain line clogs after using your disposer-TIME for a new one!The shredders are too worn and passing the waste without shredding it-hence the clogging.A properly operating disposer should not cause clogs no matter what food waste goes in it.Bones are actually good-they clear the "slime" from soft waste diets so the shredders don't corrode.Go ahead-feed the disposer bones-keeps the cutters clean and no slime to stink or cause corrosion.
 
Rex is absolutely right-

We have a three-stage disposal, so I don't worry about the stringy stuff, etc, but, yes - the ice cube trick works well and so (gasp!, the horror of it all!) so do bones.

Mainly, though - flush, flush, flush. If you're one of those people who can't stand the thought of letting the water run after the disposal is done grinding, then you simple may not use a garbage disposal. It's that simple. Back when dishwashers actually used water to clean, those 8-11 gallons were enough. Today, that trickle of 40ml just ain't gonna stop the slime buildup.

We need to return to batch mode systems. That would be the best answer.
 
Speaking of things we throw down our disposers. I'll throw down coffee grounds, tea leaves, garlic and onion husks. It all goes down (muahahahaha)
I do flush mine pretty well, though briefly, after.
And I will put chicken bones and ice down it periodically to scrub it out.
No other bones though. While I know it can handle it, I don't want to stand around while it chews up beef or pork bones, nor do I want to put it under THAT much stress.

As for stainless components....I know not all disposers have stainless flywheel brackets.
But I'm pretty sure the stainless series Evolution disposers have full stainless flywheel brackets. I could see it through the drain port at the store, under the wheel.
 
I'm with you John, all that stuff people tell me to "never" dump down there goes right down. I was told a while back that one egg shell will plug the drain, BS... Heard the same of coffee grounds etc. I don't generally grind up bones but if I had the patience I'm sure that wouldn't be an issue. I also avoid grape vines/stems as they seem to take a while to be rid of too.

If it is a continuous feed model it is vital to get one that has a removable rubber splash guard. I have an extra one and I toss them in the dishwasher every time I run it alternating from one to the other. Most disposer smells are rotting food on the bottom of the splash guard. The cheap builder models with the non-removable splash guards are a nightmare in this regard.

If I'm standing there I turn on the disposer when my dishwasher goes into drain during a wash cycle. That hot stream of detergent spraying into the grind chamber while it is running makes everything shiny in there in seconds!
 
I don't blame the disposer for that tea leaf clog. Someone dumped at least a few pounds down there all at once and they bound to the grease accumulated in the drain line. They WERE shredded pretty well.

The removed section of pipe in the basement looked like this. That was with the tea leaves removed. All of that accumulation was with the habit of flushing the drain with lots of water over the years.

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Panthera, what about when the dishwasher is connected to the disposer? That is, the dishwasher drains into the disposal and from the disposal down the drain? I would think that would help with cleaning the disposal or would the detergents be too strong?

Also, a tip for cleaning the rubber baffle if it does not remove: Take a paper towel, crinkle it up and get it all wet, then place some Dawn on it. Then take the PT and rub it, Dawn side up, on the underside of the rubber. It will make a grown man gag at first, but do it 2-3 times and it will smell much better. Do NOT put the paper towel down the disposal, put it in the trash. then run just a little bit of water, turn the disposal on, and run a little bit of Dawn to create a foam in there, I do that and my disposal smells better.
 
Bob,

That's a great idea for cleaning. Thanks!
I am sure the dishwasher helps, but nothing beats flushing thoroughly during and after the grinding process. It's the same principle as never using hot water on grease - it cools down too fast and stops up the pipes.
I run the water for a good minute after the grinding is done. The horrors of it all! But not a single jam, stinky or problem in years and years.
 
Grease is the mortal enemy of drains. There are wonderful photos of "Fat Bergs" clogging the sewers of London, probably from people dumping their fish & chips fryers in the drains. Things have changed since the World Wars when housewives were encouraged to save all fats in the kitchen to donate to the war effort. I think the fat could be used in explosives. Maybe also burned as fuel in the naval steam engines of the day.

 

Best to keep an old can in the kitchen to receive any fats/oils instead of dumping down the drain. Then it can be used to make soap (if  you dare) or popped into the trash (hefty bagged) for pickup. If it's too runny, just pop it in the freezer overnight, it should stiffen up.

 

Some fats down the drain can be unavoidable, such as what accumulates on plates and bowls and even pots and pans. But gross amounts do not belong in the drain. Even if they are liquid in the kitchen, the cool temps in the sewer can solidify them.

 

And lest we Yanks get too smug about it, Baltimore has its very own huge fatberg now...

 

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I was at Costco last night, and saw that they are carrying the American Standard version of the 1-1/4 HP Titan. This time with a 3-bolt attachment system, which some here seem to favor. A box was open so I fished out the owner's manual to confirm the mfg is "Joneca", which is the same company that "makes" the Titan and other various clones. I regard these as good disposers, at a reasonable price, and so far they seem to be long-lasting.

 
 
Menards has that 1-1/4 HP Titan on sale

at 70$ right now as a Westinghouse.

Yeah, I know - but they do have good reviews. 

Just did another garbage disposal this morning for a customer.

Would have like to pick one up, but they'd already chosen a Badger 900. Which is not a bad machine, though, like all stainless steel units of that lineage - the motor attachment is still plain old steel. 
 
Regarding stainless vs plain steel and flushing...

 

The Achilles heel of most stainless steel is chlorine, either as the element or as part of a salt. The element, found in chlorine bleach, is quite corrosive to stainless - there are numerous tales of home brewers disinfecting their stainless equipment with chlorine bleach solution, but failing to rinse it completely out. What happens is that droplets of bleach solution left inside the vessels can slowly dry out, increasing the chlorine concentration to the point where it causes pinhole corrosion in the vessels, leading to pinholes, which means they can no longer be used to hold liquids esp not under pressure.

 

The main element in stainless steel that gives it corrosion resistance is chromium. Upon exposure to air, it creates a very thin layer of chromium oxide, which prevents the iron in the metal from combining with oxygen and rusting. However, salt water or chlorine bleach can attack the chromium oxide, resulting in corrosion of the metal underneath it. Very cheap stainless has only chromium for corrosion resistance, and that cheap stainless will fairly quickly corrode (rust) if left in contact with salt water for a prolonged time. More expensive stainless has nickel in addition to the chromium, and the nickle acts to protect the chromium as well as provide its own corrosion resistance. In terms of corrosion resistance, from lousy to pretty good, you go from 18-0 (18% chromium, 0% nickel), to 18-8, 18-10, then up to 18-12. 18-10 is what I usually look for in flatware and such. The usual alloy is #304. A few percent of molybdenum also helps to protect the chromium oxide layer, and according to the sources I've seen, that's generally called 316 grade and may be preferred for marine environments.  Above that, you start to get into the high nickel alloys like Inconel, Monel, which are very corrosion and heat resistant, but as you might imagine, much more expensive than the usual consumer grades. Very high nickel alloys are used in such things as jet engine turbine blades and afterburners, because they are so heat resistant. They are also very difficult to machine, but that's another story. And as you might imagine, there are a lot of different alloys produced by tweaking the percent and type of alloying elements added.

 

The reason why I bring this all up is from Panthera's recommendation to flush the drain thoroughly after using a disposer. I would imagine, based on the above, while it's important for normal food scraps, it's even more important if one cleans a sink with a chlorine containing bleach. You don't want droplets of a bleach solution drying out on stainless (or regular steel, for that matter), becoming more and more concentrated as they dry, and causing pinhole leaks/fractures/mayhem.

 

Many years ago when I didn't know better, I bought a set of flatware that turned out to be 18-0 stainless. It worked fine as long as I kept it clean and dry. But I got a taste of how vulnerable it can be, when I lost a spoon in the garden. I found it a few weeks later, and it looked quite corroded and rusted. I was a bit surprised. After that I got some 18-8 flatware and have kept better track of its whereabouts :-).

 

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I've never had a sink disposer, even while growing up at home. Dad always put veggie waste in a bag and it went to compost pile outside then into the garden in the Spring. Any left over food went outside for the birds to eat in the day, and at night the coons or possums, everything was always gone by morning LOL
We never had food waste in the garbage, save for cooking grease. (Always save bacon lard in the little lard bowl that stayed on the stove for use when cooking, both grandmas always did that) Now I do the same thing at my house. Nature's garbage disposal, coons and possums :D works great and its free and nothing goes to waste
 
Natures "disposers" can leave WASTE of their own.And it can be NASTY!!!Both can carry rabies!You REALLY don't want those around "cute" as they can be!Also ether can have parasitic intestinal worms!Beleive me you DON'T want those critters around!!Ad long as they stay away from the house-fine.WE also have bears and wild hogs here,too!And too close to home!!!If I walk the neighborhood at night near my place-Carry one of my portable HID lights-critters esp bears don't like BRIGHT lights!
 
Well...

They are around if I set it out or not! Here in IL its impossible NOT to have them, I live next to a creek, hillside and lots of trees, once darkness falls, I see them on the hillside, walking up from the creek, etc. Coons, possums, deer, owls sit on my porch light sometimes, bats, oh and the ground hog, but he's in his den in the hillside for the winter. I make a point to make noise when I come home at night so I don't sneak up on them, they can get mean if scared. I usually start rambling or screaming like a mad man getting out of the car, then I can hear them running away LOL
 
The possums,coons,and such are all around me,too-Just don't want them too close to my place when I am outside.I have to go to work at night-shine my barnburner light all around to scare the critters away-and I have found some in my light-Racoons and a Momma possum with her young riding on her back.Don't bother them if they don't bother me.I just don't attract them.Seriously they do carry rabies and fleas.They are wild creatures and don't react favorably to people.Some folks have made pets of these-found them when they were babies and the mother was killed by a car or a hunter.Both are commonly hunted here.Its not legal to keep these but some people manage to do it.It was said they do make good pewts when trained-and both are very intelligent.
 
I have three compost bins, a cubic yard each, that are going most of the year. And they get the garden clippings and meat/nitrogen waste from the kitchen. I still use the sink disposer for stuff that falls into the sink during food prep, instead of clogging a strainer, which I dislike trying to clean. A properly managed compost bin, with a good ratio of "brown" to "green" doesn't stink even if you add meat scraps to it, and the lid on the bins keeps rats and mice out of it. The center of the bin reaches 140F or more from natural processes, enough to kill pathogens and render the compost safe for a vegetable garden.

 

I don't put any food out for raccoons or possums. They still come around, occasionally, attracted to stuff like avocados and other fruit trees in the yard. And the fish pond, which I've had to protect with high voltage fido shock wiring. I don't much mind the possums, but raccoons are bad news - they often carry a nasty round worm which can make humans very sick - like blind or dead. Raccoons like to create communal toilets on tops of flat roofing, and their scat can contain millions of these roundworm eggs. And the baby raccoons can be very infectious. The only sure way to kill those eggs is with a blow torch. I've also had to protect flat roofing around here with the fido shock wiring. It is irresponsible to feed wild raccoons; it only increases their numbers and the chances of humans contracting Baylisascaris procyonis. And keeping a not dewormed raccoon as a pet is just rolling the dice in a situation where one is likely to lose.

 

No bears or other large predators/scavengers around here, and those raccoons or possums that do come around don't disturb the bins.

 

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Good points on the stainless steel

And one big reason for rinsing thoroughly. Another one: The dratted stainless and plastic is not all of the garbage disposer. At some point, they are joined to plain old steel. I won't write again what the manufacturers suggest, but it's worth reading up how long they say you should flush after grinding and doing so.

The whole nature is great thing-y is wonderful. I've lots of German friends and relations who do that. We have bears here. Anybody seriously wanna try that? Wait, let me set up the cameras first. Bound to be a slasher film being made in Hollywood someday soon which could use the footage. 
 
Panthera, are you from Germany? I lived in Bavaria! The garbage system is very complicated I remember, everything separated, steel, plastic, glass, etc, then take it to town and put everything in its proper disposal container LOL, those were fun days indeed, miss the Alps and Salzburg at Christmas time.
 
For the sink I have the ISE Evolution, for the floors I used to have a Rottweiler (now there's a Poodle but he's a food snob and won't touch most food), for outside we have possums, raccoons, skunks, deer, squirrels, birds, cats, coyotes...the only thing we don't have (yet) are Wolves, Bears, and wild hogs. The biggest menace are the raccoons, they've tipped over the trash can a few times and made a mess all over the driveway. One time one tried to take up residence in one of the trees in the backyard, then one day it got up on the back porch and my Rottweiler cornered it under the swing, scared it and after he was called in it ran off and never came back. Was amazed and relieved it didn't attack him. 

 

One time my mother watched a raccoon pull a drumstick out of a trash can and eat it while sitting atop the hood of a car. Another time it was mid day I was driving down my grandma's street and a raccoon was standing in the gutter, I merely slowed down and looked at it and it started hissing at me. I was ready to shoot the bastard by that point. 

 

The deer like to eat the baby pine tree in the back yard, they will come right up to the houses late at night sometimes. They have VERY good hearing so one has to be very quiet not to scare them off sneaking outside for a photo. One time one of us looked out the window late at night and a deer was staring right back in... 
 
Be careful...

Watch those raccoons! From what I hear they are going to end the human race in a few shorts years... They are very smart and know what they are doing LOL
 
If I lived in bear country, I'd get some bear-proof compost bins. Or bear-proof enclosures to put the plastic bins inside.

 

Raccoons are dangerous animals. My neighbor's miniature dogs were attacked one night last year in her back yard, on ended up in the vet hospital. She doesn't let them out there at night any more.

 

If people secured their food garbage and didn't leave pet food outside, the raccoon problem would be reduced.

 

PS-At a compost website I have visited, some people say they have rigged up a garbage disposer near their compost bin - they take the food scraps out there and run them through the disposer, which is mounted over a bucket. Then  the bucket content goes into the bin. It's an interesting idea, however, I have found, other than bones, the bacteria, fungus, beetles, and worms make short work of most food scraps anyway. Most important is to layer the food scraps between layers of "brown" such as dry leaves, hay, or hedge clippings. This mixture promotes aerobic bacteria as well as the variety of microbes needed for efficient decomposition. The resultant compost usually has the texture and aroma of rich loam, and plants love it.

 

I've read that raccoons, which are native to the Americas, have become quite a problem in Europe, where they were imported by foolish people who let them go.

 

 
 
Outside "dispoer" Just get a good Chipper/shredder.these make good work of anything you could throw into a compost pile.My Mom and StepDad used to have a compost pile.they had a chipper/shredder-I used it to grind up whatever they wanted to put in the pile.The compost made GREAT mulch for their gardens.Yes,even the grass clippings were thrown in!
 
Raccoons are hunted not for meat-but their pelts-pelt buyers pay good dollars for pelts that are in good condition-no large bullet holes.Pelt hunters use traps to catch the raccoons-then shoot them thru the head to save the pelts.Done a lot here.May sound sort of gruesome but keeps them at bay.
 
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