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Well Darrell

it seems like a strange question to me no matter what month it is. It leads me to wonder why it is asked and what's going on with that person.

I have been asked that question by several straight people. Unless I know the person well I usually won't have that conversation with them.

Come on Darrell, think about the statements from sdlee...."Never have I looked at a baby and said man if you were a few decades older" What's that about? What does he think we are?

sdlee, I've got to tell you that if you think gay people look at a baby and think that you have some really strange issues yourself.

and..."Werent you lead to believe you should be a masculine entity?" Oh really, you think gay men are not masuline because they are gay?

Dude you need to get out more. Read. Experience life outside your own backyard. Your mind is way to narrow.
 
I am who I am, and who I am needs no excuses.....sing it gir

The saddest part is the self-loathing and sometimes suicide.
Absoultely unnecessary.

Wouldn't someone choose "The straignt and narrow path" if they had a choice? People are like electricity and water; they tend to take the path of least resistance. No one choses this (*cough*)joy of a "life-style" it chooses you! Homosexuality takes a tough character to survive it intact.

I begged G-d to take "it" away from me in my teens. Now, I'd say "never" if given the choice.

At one time one could be killed for being left-handed. Does this matter at all today?
 
Well Sandy

I guess I'm lucky I didn't experience the bullying part growing up. I got in a fight in high school when some jock accused me on moving in on his girlfriend. After I beat the living crap out of his straight ass I told him to go home and tell his daddy a faggot just kicked his ass. Some of the guys thought I was joking. I guess they thought like sdlee.

Toggle you said be kind.....sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.

I would like to extend an invitation to sdlee to come visit sometime. I would be glad to have this conversation face to face with him. In a friendly enviroment of course.
 
If you want fun

how about the straight people here telling us when they knew they were straight.

Before anyone gets ball-istic......think back to your own makeup. Werent you lead to believe you should be a homosexual entity? When and were did that change?

did you learn by exposure? or was there this lil voice inside your head saying be straight be straight be straight. What created that?

whats all yalls thoughts?
 
This Should Give You an Idea, Lee:

In a country- Britain- that has enlightened legislation on gay issues, including civil partnerships, here's an example of institutionalised homophobia overriding the law:

"Heinz Co. said viewer complaints prompted it to pull a British television advertisement for mayonnaise that showed two men kissing....The Advertising Standards Authority said it received 202 complaints....Fox News host Bill O'Reilly complained about the advertisement on Friday during his show, "The O'Reilly Factor."

"I just want mayonnaise. I don't want guys kissing," he said."


A link to the commercial is below. One innocuous kiss, and a million-dollar advert is thrown out because 200 people (and Bill O'Reilly) can't face the twenty-first century.

 
I find such behavior apalling.

I think O'Reilly was wrong -- no doubt.

However, I actually think that most Public Displays of Affection are kind of...wierd.

So I'd be a little uncomfortable WHOEVER was kissing in a Mayonnaise ad.

Personally I've always been of the opinion that:
1. if you don't like gay sex, dont' engage in it.
2. If you don't believe in drugs, don't take them.
3. If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.
4. If you don't like religion X, don't go to services there.
etc.

So what do I know :)?

Nate
 
I have a

friend that I refer to as a functioning lunatic. He claims to be heterophobic. Whenever he sees two straight people kissing in public or showing affection he goes off and starts yelling at them for their discusting and sick behavior.

I was a bit taken back the first time I saw him do it. But fight fire with fire he says.

I'm not heterophobic so they don't bother me. I just try to accept them as they are............
 
"I just want mayonnaise. I don't want guys kissing," he said.

Too bad two girls would result in mayonaise for him and two guys is seen as disguisting.

I invite you to look at that little anomaly in life.

Straight man's repulsion to other men MUST be based on pheromones, "scent" or other factors because logically it's (2M or 2F) the same thing. Is one version of homosexality better than the other?
 
Now Greg

Just simma down here.
I'm not sure, but I think somewhere along the line sdlee
has made it clear that he is of the homo orientation.
Whether he is or isn't is of nominal consequence to me.
Most of the participants of AW.O are pretty direct
about what they consider their sexual , and other identities
to be. It seems to me that the question is as innocuous
as somebody stating "What age were you when you realized
you had a keen interest in antiques, cars, appliances etc.?"
Maybe a little too personal for some of us , but generally
it is frequently a topic of conversation. And given the fact that it is the Month typically, at least since the early
70's, that Contemporay Gay Culture is more enthusiastically
celebrated (or at least more publicly), on this forum it isn't
that over the top of a thread subject , speaking for myself
of course. I think the reference to infants is simply a comment relative to speculation that they may mature to
be homosexual,and some of them may even be intelligent enough
to observe a more mature human and have at least a response
of more appeal, or less appeal. It is well documented that
babies and very young children are perceived to respond in
all manner to all sorts of external stimuli. I know that by the time I was 4 or 5 I was having those kinds of notions about other males. As for sd's opening "out of the gate" statement , I think the only thing one learns about their own (or anybody elses, for that matter) "gayness"
is to be happy, or unnecessarily burdoned by it!
 
let me see....

I think it was about when I was eleven...

I got handed a menu, on it was a selection:

Would you like a lifetime of

Discrimination of every kind?
Name calling?
Unimaginable physical/mental abuse?
Sadness?
Isolation?
Ridicule?
Exposure to fatal disease?
Stereotyping?

I said "sure, where do I sign up?"

NO, it's NOT a choice!
 
yea, me too

I had to look back twice at the original posting to make sure I copied that exact.

Gee Darrell, that means he's telling us he learned to be gay and was not born gay?

By the way, I have always thought well of sdlee, no reason not to continue to think well of him either. I just want Lee to think about what he posted.
 
I guess this

is one of those questions that was hauting Lee. Like....

CAN YOU CRY UNDER WATER?
________________________________________
HOW IMPORTANT DOES A PERSON HAVE TO BE BEFORE THEY ARE CONSIDERED ASSASSINATED INSTEAD OF JUST MURDERED?
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WHY DO YOU HAVE TO "PUT YOUR TWO CENTS IN"... BUT IT'S ONLY A "PENNY FOR YOUR THOUGHTS"? WHERE'S THAT EXTRA PENNY GOING TO?
________________________________________
ONCE YOU'RE IN HEAVEN, DO YOU GET STUCK WEARING THE CLOTHES YOU WERE BURIED IN FOR ETERNITY?
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WHY DOES A ROUND PIZZA COME IN A SQUARE BOX?
________________________________________
WHAT DISEASE DID CURED HAM ACTUALLY HAVE?
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HOW IS IT THAT WE PUT MAN ON THE MOON BEFORE WE FIGURED OUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO PUT WHEELS ON LUGGAGE?
________________________________________
WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE SAY THEY "SLEPT LIKE A BABY" WHEN BABIES WAKE UP LIKE EVERY TWO HOURS?
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IF A DEAF PERSON HAS TO GO TO COURT, IS IT STILL CALLED A HEARING?
________________________________________
WHY ARE YOU IN A MOVIE, BUT YOU'RE ON TV?
________________________________________
WHY DO PEOPLE PAY TO GO UP TALL BUILDINGS AND THEN PUT MONEY IN BINOCULARS TO LOOK AT THINGS ON THE GROUND?
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WHY DO DOCTORS LEAVE THE ROOM WHILE YOU CHANGE? THEY'RE GOING TO SEE YOU NAKED ANYWAY.
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WHY IS "BRA" SINGULAR AND "PANTIES" PLURAL?
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WHY DO TOASTERS ALWAYS HAVE A SETTING THAT BURNS THE TOAST TO A HORRIBLE CRISP, WHICH NO DECENT HUMAN BEING WOULD EAT?
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IF JIMMY CRACKS CORN AND NO ONE CARES, WHY IS THERE A STUPID SONG ABOUT HIM?
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CAN A HEARSE CARRYING A CORPSE DRIVE IN THE CARPOOL LANE ?
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IF THE PROFESSOR ON GILLIGAN'S ISLAND CAN MAKE A RADIO OUT OF A COCONUT, WHY CAN'T HE FIX A HOLE IN A BOAT?
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WHY DOES GOOFY STAND ERECT WHILE PLUTO REMAINS ON ALL FOURS? THEY'RE BOTH DOGS!
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IF WILE E. COYOTE HAD ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY ALL THAT ACME CRAP, WHY DIDN'T HE JUST BUY DINNER?
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IF CORN OIL IS MADE FROM CORN, AND VEGETABLE OIL IS MADE FROM VEGETABLES, WHAT IS BABY OIL MADE FROM?
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DO THE ALPHABET SONG AND TWINKLE, TWINKLE LITTLE STAR HAVE THE SAME TUNE?
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WHY DID YOU JUST TRY SINGING THE TWO SONGS ABOVE?
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WHY DO THEY CALL IT AN ASTEROID WHEN IT'S OUTSIDE THE HEMISPHERE, BUT CALL IT A HEMORRHOID WHEN IT'S IN YOUR BUTT?
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DID YOU EVER NOTICE THAT WHEN YOU BLOW IN A DOG'S FACE, HE GETS MAD AT YOU, BUT WHEN YOU TAKE HIM FOR A CAR RIDE, HE STICKS HIS HEAD OUT THE WINDOW?
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DO YOU EVER WONDER WHY LEE ASKED US IN THE FIRST PLACE OR WHY GREG (ME) IS BEATING THE ISSUE TO DEATH?
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ok, I said enough, I want to hear back from Lee. Is he a top or a bottom? LOLOLOL!!!

=
 
Learned.

Monday was piano lessons, Thursday was gay school, every other Saturday was swimming lessons.

And in between, it was practice, practice, practice.

veg
 

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