GE “Fresh Vent” Front Loaders
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sudsmaster
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I don't know about those machines, but Haier, which bought GE Appliances Division in 2016, moved the GE Appliance HQ from NJ to Kentucky.
On their website they are advertising for a number of engineering openings, including one for a laundry engineer:
https://careers.geappliances.com/jo...ctronics-Engineer-Clothes-Care-User-Interface
On their website they are advertising for a number of engineering openings, including one for a laundry engineer:
https://careers.geappliances.com/jo...ctronics-Engineer-Clothes-Care-User-Interface
miele4life
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they look very smart and they're certainly innovative too, did anyone else notice that there's 2 drum designs used in these models? 
New GE front load
Hi ...
I had to replace all of my appliances that were lost in the August 2018 fire. The fun of looking for replacements got old fast. Lots of choices. At one point I had a different manufacturer for each appliance. The driving requirement was a fridge with two ice makers. You can go through a lot of ice cooking and then there are all of the icy summer drinks at the beach. GE is one of the few manufacturers that have a dual ice maker fridge. That got me looking at all of the GE line and I ended up with all GE appliances. I have been using them for about 4 weeks now aand I am happy with all of them. I got the new GE front load washer and matching dryer. They work quite well. The 'one step' for wash/dry for a small load works well.
Harry
Hi ...
I had to replace all of my appliances that were lost in the August 2018 fire. The fun of looking for replacements got old fast. Lots of choices. At one point I had a different manufacturer for each appliance. The driving requirement was a fridge with two ice makers. You can go through a lot of ice cooking and then there are all of the icy summer drinks at the beach. GE is one of the few manufacturers that have a dual ice maker fridge. That got me looking at all of the GE line and I ended up with all GE appliances. I have been using them for about 4 weeks now aand I am happy with all of them. I got the new GE front load washer and matching dryer. They work quite well. The 'one step' for wash/dry for a small load works well.
Harry
mrb627
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Not Much Out There...
Interesting, it seems that the washer is made in China, and the dryer is made at the GE Appliance Park in Kentucky.
Checked the online ratings of a well-known testing organization:
For comparison: LG has the highest-scoring machines; four of them received an overall score of 86.
The TOL new GE model, the 850, (as well as other models from the new line) received an overall score of 74.
Reliability: Good
Owner Satisfaction: Poor
Washing Performance: Excellent
Energy Use: Very Good
Water Use: Excellent
Gentleness, Noise, Vibration: Very Good
Take into account that the dismal owner satisfaction rating isn’t really for the newest line, but older models. Time will tell if that rating improves over the next couple of years.
Models from the prior line scored in the upper 60s, with lower ratings for washing performance, gentleness, and noise compared to those from the new line.
It looks like GE has taken a turn for the better in overall performance of their new washers.
For comparison: LG has the highest-scoring machines; four of them received an overall score of 86.
The TOL new GE model, the 850, (as well as other models from the new line) received an overall score of 74.
Reliability: Good
Owner Satisfaction: Poor
Washing Performance: Excellent
Energy Use: Very Good
Water Use: Excellent
Gentleness, Noise, Vibration: Very Good
Take into account that the dismal owner satisfaction rating isn’t really for the newest line, but older models. Time will tell if that rating improves over the next couple of years.
Models from the prior line scored in the upper 60s, with lower ratings for washing performance, gentleness, and noise compared to those from the new line.
It looks like GE has taken a turn for the better in overall performance of their new washers.
I had one of the GE front load washers with the VICs cough drop door. I left it behind at the house I sold last year because it wouldn't fit in the new place. It had the overnight ready feature. I loved it. If anything I used it so the clothes didn't get musty if I fell asleep while the machine was running and didn't get to the laundry until morning. I Excellent cleaning. Steam refresh cycle for getting wrinkles out or just to freshen up clothes taken out of winter storage. I really miss it. I replaced it with a 24 inch GE and it is doing well going on one year. I'm not sure why people complain about GE. I left behind a GE fridge that was 9 years old and never gave any trouble.
I hope you enjoy your GE appliances as much as I have.
I hope you enjoy your GE appliances as much as I have.
I'm not sure what a "real GE" means, now that GE sold their appliance division to Haier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier
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I have, as I shared in an earlier post, including a picture, the same GE set as the video. I am in my third week of using them on a daily basis freshening up laundry that was in storage and just the usual laundry load. The automatic detergent dispenser is a really nice feature. It has auto or dirt level selection options. The video covers them quite well. I am very happy with the performance of both machines. I have the gas version of the dryer. There isn't recirculation and water use seems quite reasonable. The drum does not have spider indents. Her's a picture of the drum. I really like the additional spin option to reduce dryer time even more than the really high spin that is normal. As things happen my neighbor that has a Bed and Breakfast had her washer, an LG, break a few weeks ago. She got one model down from this one and is very happy. Even without using the extra spin option the dryer time is reduced. With the amount of laundry she will be doing this summer due to COVID anything is help for her laundry load. These are huge machines. The contractor had to modify the door placement to get them in the new laundry area. The "Time Saver" option will complete a load in under 45 min and does a good job. That option appears to use more water. One of today's projects will be to connect the washer, dryer, and the stove to the local wifi network and install the GE appliance apps on the phone.
Harry
I have, as I shared in an earlier post, including a picture, the same GE set as the video. I am in my third week of using them on a daily basis freshening up laundry that was in storage and just the usual laundry load. The automatic detergent dispenser is a really nice feature. It has auto or dirt level selection options. The video covers them quite well. I am very happy with the performance of both machines. I have the gas version of the dryer. There isn't recirculation and water use seems quite reasonable. The drum does not have spider indents. Her's a picture of the drum. I really like the additional spin option to reduce dryer time even more than the really high spin that is normal. As things happen my neighbor that has a Bed and Breakfast had her washer, an LG, break a few weeks ago. She got one model down from this one and is very happy. Even without using the extra spin option the dryer time is reduced. With the amount of laundry she will be doing this summer due to COVID anything is help for her laundry load. These are huge machines. The contractor had to modify the door placement to get them in the new laundry area. The "Time Saver" option will complete a load in under 45 min and does a good job. That option appears to use more water. One of today's projects will be to connect the washer, dryer, and the stove to the local wifi network and install the GE appliance apps on the phone.
Harry
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I was gonna ask if the washer had recirculation. Does this washer make any new interesting noises? An example would be the soap dispenser pump while filling at the start of wash. Also, what is the sequence of the normal cycle with/without timesaver option?
I was gonna ask if the washer had recirculation. Does this washer make any new interesting noises? An example would be the soap dispenser pump while filling at the start of wash. Also, what is the sequence of the normal cycle with/without timesaver option?
sudsmaster
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I am interested in the GE "Ultra Fresh" front loader(s) because these are the only GE front loader washers that allow the door swing to be reversed. Plus they have internal heaters and a lot of bells and whistles. And then there's that 5 cu ft load capacity. The price is a big of an obstacle, though. Easily $2k or more for washer plus dryer (gas). I may wait a bit to see if they drop in price later in the year.
Meanwhile, I'm a bit perplexed by all this brouhaha about keeping the washer fresh. My 20 year old Maytag Neptune never seems to have a bad odor. There is a little black discoloration on the door boot, but it's not major. Maytag figured out that mold could be an issue, and so they designed the washer so that the door "breathes" and allows air to circulate into the wash drum even with the door closed. I also typically leave the lid on the detergent compartment open all the time, as I think this also enhances air flow. Plus I run at least one hot wash (130F) a week. I also use a tbs of STPP with most loads, which I think cuts down on any mold friendly sludge in the washer.
YMMV
Meanwhile, I'm a bit perplexed by all this brouhaha about keeping the washer fresh. My 20 year old Maytag Neptune never seems to have a bad odor. There is a little black discoloration on the door boot, but it's not major. Maytag figured out that mold could be an issue, and so they designed the washer so that the door "breathes" and allows air to circulate into the wash drum even with the door closed. I also typically leave the lid on the detergent compartment open all the time, as I think this also enhances air flow. Plus I run at least one hot wash (130F) a week. I also use a tbs of STPP with most loads, which I think cuts down on any mold friendly sludge in the washer.
YMMV
pierreandreply4
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small question
i would like to know if these models are also sold in canada or if my mom directly orders from ge usa would ge deliver them straight from the us factory to a canadien home or would it have to be my mom to arrange for a pick up and installation ?
i would like to know if these models are also sold in canada or if my mom directly orders from ge usa would ge deliver them straight from the us factory to a canadien home or would it have to be my mom to arrange for a pick up and installation ?
sudsmaster
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Pierre,
I checked Home Depot and Lowes' Canadian websites, as well as the GE appliances Canada website, and the latest "Vent Fresh" washers do not appear to be available in Canada yet.
Perhaps you could call GE and ask?
https://www.geappliances.ca/en/products/laundry/washers/applproducts/GFW450SPMDG#tab-Manuals
I checked Home Depot and Lowes' Canadian websites, as well as the GE appliances Canada website, and the latest "Vent Fresh" washers do not appear to be available in Canada yet.
Perhaps you could call GE and ask?
https://www.geappliances.ca/en/products/laundry/washers/applproducts/GFW450SPMDG#tab-Manuals
I have to say, 5 cf is enticing for things like king size comforters. I have to cram my comforter into the Neptune, and add water because I don't trust the machine to do so sufficiently before its own water level sensing window closes (assuming that at some point the add water mechanism does time out).
I couldn't stick with the video posted above. The guy's voice and blathering became tiresome, and after a couple of fast-forwards, I bailed before he even bothered to open the washer's door.
I couldn't stick with the video posted above. The guy's voice and blathering became tiresome, and after a couple of fast-forwards, I bailed before he even bothered to open the washer's door.
<blockquote>Meanwhile, I'm a bit perplexed by all this brouhaha about keeping the washer fresh. My 20 year old Maytag Neptune never seems to have a bad odor. There is a little black discoloration on the door boot, but it's not major. Maytag figured out that mold could be an issue, and so they designed the washer so that the door "breathes" and allows air to circulate into the wash drum even with the door closed. I also typically leave the lid on the detergent compartment open all the time, as I think this also enhances air flow. Plus I run at least one hot wash (130F) a week. I also use a tbs of STPP with most loads, which I think cuts down on any mold friendly sludge in the washer.
YMMV</blockquote> YMMV is the crucial part. Your usage habits are not typical.
pierreandreply4
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i have ask via the ge appliance facebook page the washer my mom and i have lacks 2 things 1 an internal washer heater and 2 it do not have a sanitize cycle and i also would not like that after 16 years if the washer broke a neighbor had to replace her washer dryer set just beside where i live and thank you for answering my question i hope they become avalable in canada
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Let me clarify, I know GE sold to Haier, I meant it’s not designed or assembled in Appliance Park in Kentucky. Pure Haier, pure Chinese.
Mike
Let me clarify, I know GE sold to Haier, I meant it’s not designed or assembled in Appliance Park in Kentucky. Pure Haier, pure Chinese.
Mike
sudsmaster
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@mtn1584
So what?
If the new GE Ultra Vent Fresh washers give a better wash, are durable, and meet customer needs better than the rest, why complain?
It's not as if laundry products are essential to national defense. Lots of people buy German made washers here and nobody seems bothered by that.
For my own situation, if I were to replace my Neptune 7500 today, I'd give a serious look at the TOL GE models as well as the Electrolux models because they meet my needs in a way that no other brands do.
Perhaps other American laundry manufacturers need to pay more attention to what American consumers want.
So what?
If the new GE Ultra Vent Fresh washers give a better wash, are durable, and meet customer needs better than the rest, why complain?
It's not as if laundry products are essential to national defense. Lots of people buy German made washers here and nobody seems bothered by that.
For my own situation, if I were to replace my Neptune 7500 today, I'd give a serious look at the TOL GE models as well as the Electrolux models because they meet my needs in a way that no other brands do.
Perhaps other American laundry manufacturers need to pay more attention to what American consumers want.
according to the GE(Haier) website 74% of a GE washer is American content https://www.geappliances.com/ge/usa/#mia-laundry
https://www.geappliances.com/ge/usa/#mia-laundry
https://www.geappliances.com/ge/usa/#mia-laundry
Not made in America anymore
The new Fresh Vent washers appear to be 100% made in China. I wonder if that's only temporary as the tariffs are still in place?
The new Fresh Vent washers appear to be 100% made in China. I wonder if that's only temporary as the tariffs are still in place?
sudsmaster
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GE content
Well, yes, many of the GE washers are made in the USA. However these ultra fresh vent washers - the current top of the line - appear to be 100% Chinese made, according to reports here. Perhaps that will change as their mfg is moved to the USA. The next time I'm at HD or Lowe's I'll look for the Ultras to see if:
1) The doors really can be reversed
2) Where the machines are really made.
But since the Neptune soldiers on I'm in no great hurry.
Well, yes, many of the GE washers are made in the USA. However these ultra fresh vent washers - the current top of the line - appear to be 100% Chinese made, according to reports here. Perhaps that will change as their mfg is moved to the USA. The next time I'm at HD or Lowe's I'll look for the Ultras to see if:
1) The doors really can be reversed
2) Where the machines are really made.
But since the Neptune soldiers on I'm in no great hurry.
5 cu ft is impressive capacity for a home washer, I've wondered about the LG and Samsung offerings in this size-class for a while now. The dryers are topping out at ~ 9 cu. ft. which would be a great
The GEs are nice looking, the blue accents are attractive. Keep us posted on your opinion of your new set, Harry, and a tour of your other new GE appliances would be appreciated as well. I know a number of people that are quite happy with their GE kitchen appliances.
American "built" is the key, parts are sourced from the global market, just like most products now.
The GEs are nice looking, the blue accents are attractive. Keep us posted on your opinion of your new set, Harry, and a tour of your other new GE appliances would be appreciated as well. I know a number of people that are quite happy with their GE kitchen appliances.
American "built" is the key, parts are sourced from the global market, just like most products now.
sudsmaster
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Photos of GE Ultra Fresh Vent Washer manual
I made it to the Home Depot in Union City yesterday. I couldn't make it to the nearby Lowes - the shopping center where Lowes is located had traffic barriers up at all the entrances on Alvarado-Niles road (closest to the Lowes) and traffic to get to Dyer/Whipple for the other entrances was completely gridlocked.
But Home Depot had the model 650 on display, for about $900. It's an impressive machine. The matching gas dryer is about $1000.
I took photos of the pages in the Use and Care Manual dealing with reversing the door swing. But I don't need to upload them here because the same info is available in the PDF file from the HD web site.
AFAIK, only the two TOL models, 650 and 850, have the features I need, mainly door swing reverse. The manual indicates this is an "optional" feature, although I'm not sure if that is an extra cost feature that must be specified on purchase. Mainly there's a locking bar one must use to stabilize everything before switching the door swing. Also the 650 capacity appears to be 4.8 cu ft, while the 850 capacity is 5.0 cu ft. This may account for the two extra inches in depth of the 850 (34 inches vs 32 inches). However the matching 850 dryer is "only" 32 inches deep. Additionally only the 850 washer has the "One Step" wash and dry feature of "smaller" loads. That might be a good feature for people in a rush or who just like all the bells and whistles.
PDF of manual: https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/f4/f4c69785-6122-478d-821c-9ccfd0fc4154.pdf
GE Appliance website address: https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-4-8-...h-Sanitize-and-Allergen-GFW650SSNWW/311972518
Also I see mention of Canada in the manual, but the associated Canadian GE website does not list these Ultra Fresh models. Here is the website address for Canada: http://www.geappliances.ca/products/category/Washers
And the 800 number for GE Canada: 800-561-3344
Lastly, I saw NO "Country of origin" stickers on either washer or dryer. Perhaps they were removed for display, or were never there to begin with.
https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/f4/f4c69785-6122-478d-821c-9ccfd0fc4154.pdf
I made it to the Home Depot in Union City yesterday. I couldn't make it to the nearby Lowes - the shopping center where Lowes is located had traffic barriers up at all the entrances on Alvarado-Niles road (closest to the Lowes) and traffic to get to Dyer/Whipple for the other entrances was completely gridlocked.
But Home Depot had the model 650 on display, for about $900. It's an impressive machine. The matching gas dryer is about $1000.
I took photos of the pages in the Use and Care Manual dealing with reversing the door swing. But I don't need to upload them here because the same info is available in the PDF file from the HD web site.
AFAIK, only the two TOL models, 650 and 850, have the features I need, mainly door swing reverse. The manual indicates this is an "optional" feature, although I'm not sure if that is an extra cost feature that must be specified on purchase. Mainly there's a locking bar one must use to stabilize everything before switching the door swing. Also the 650 capacity appears to be 4.8 cu ft, while the 850 capacity is 5.0 cu ft. This may account for the two extra inches in depth of the 850 (34 inches vs 32 inches). However the matching 850 dryer is "only" 32 inches deep. Additionally only the 850 washer has the "One Step" wash and dry feature of "smaller" loads. That might be a good feature for people in a rush or who just like all the bells and whistles.
PDF of manual: https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/f4/f4c69785-6122-478d-821c-9ccfd0fc4154.pdf
GE Appliance website address: https://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-4-8-...h-Sanitize-and-Allergen-GFW650SSNWW/311972518
Also I see mention of Canada in the manual, but the associated Canadian GE website does not list these Ultra Fresh models. Here is the website address for Canada: http://www.geappliances.ca/products/category/Washers
And the 800 number for GE Canada: 800-561-3344
Lastly, I saw NO "Country of origin" stickers on either washer or dryer. Perhaps they were removed for display, or were never there to begin with.
https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/f4/f4c69785-6122-478d-821c-9ccfd0fc4154.pdf
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