GE Double wall oven opinions... calling all range & oven mavens -Sandy, Hans, others?
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danemodsandy
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Jeff:
No, the Rodgers installation was a box-like contraption that stuck out from the cabinets above it by three or four inches. It was in stainless or brushed chrome, to match the JK 29.
I'm thinking it was a custom installation of some sort. Interesting to see your photo!
No, the Rodgers installation was a box-like contraption that stuck out from the cabinets above it by three or four inches. It was in stainless or brushed chrome, to match the JK 29.
I'm thinking it was a custom installation of some sort. Interesting to see your photo!
danemodsandy
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Is This Some Kinda Trick Question, LOL?
"Sandy, what would be the difference between a JK-29 and a JK-28?"
Jeff,
Your question makes me wonder if you have found the model number JK 28 on that yellow double oven of yours.
If you have, it gives me some info I had not had before. If yours is a JK 28, that means that JK 28 is the number of the TOL double oven with two P*7 ovens, but without oven door windows. That configuration was sold in 1966, because GE hadn't yet begun putting windowed doors on the entire P*7 lineup yet.
A JK 29 is the exact same oven you have, but with windowed oven doors. The white unit you posted above is a JK 29.
So, it's looking to me like GE used JK 28 on the 1966 model, but changed it to JK 29 in 1967, when they began putting the windowed doors on the TOL double ovem. I have always referred to the 1966 version without the doors as a JK 29, for lack of any other model number; I do not have catalogs for every year. Dammit.
A check of my 1971 and 1972 catalogs shows that the model number JK 28 was not used for any of their wall ovens in either of those years.
So - are you telling me that your yellow oven is a JK 28?
"Sandy, what would be the difference between a JK-29 and a JK-28?"
Jeff,
Your question makes me wonder if you have found the model number JK 28 on that yellow double oven of yours.
If you have, it gives me some info I had not had before. If yours is a JK 28, that means that JK 28 is the number of the TOL double oven with two P*7 ovens, but without oven door windows. That configuration was sold in 1966, because GE hadn't yet begun putting windowed doors on the entire P*7 lineup yet.
A JK 29 is the exact same oven you have, but with windowed oven doors. The white unit you posted above is a JK 29.
So, it's looking to me like GE used JK 28 on the 1966 model, but changed it to JK 29 in 1967, when they began putting the windowed doors on the TOL double ovem. I have always referred to the 1966 version without the doors as a JK 29, for lack of any other model number; I do not have catalogs for every year. Dammit.
A check of my 1971 and 1972 catalogs shows that the model number JK 28 was not used for any of their wall ovens in either of those years.
So - are you telling me that your yellow oven is a JK 28?
Yes, it is a JK28
Sandy, I think that your thought on the model number makes sense. Yes, I confirmed the model number on mine is JK28. So I think we have a serial number mystery solved! Now when did they go from the larger chrome window trim, like on Rogers wonderful new coppertone ovens, to the smaller window trim? I also find it interesting on these ovens, they went through the clock updates over the years... analog on the early models, 'flipper' number clocks, and then digital clocks... maybe even more versions!
Sandy, I think that your thought on the model number makes sense. Yes, I confirmed the model number on mine is JK28. So I think we have a serial number mystery solved! Now when did they go from the larger chrome window trim, like on Rogers wonderful new coppertone ovens, to the smaller window trim? I also find it interesting on these ovens, they went through the clock updates over the years... analog on the early models, 'flipper' number clocks, and then digital clocks... maybe even more versions!
danemodsandy
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Jeff:
Thanks for clearing that up - the non-windowed version is JK 28, the windowed one is JK 29. Got it.
Now for the window trim. That's not a yearly change, it's a model feature. GE did this on its TOL ranges and ovens - everything through upper-MOL units got the narrow stainless trim. TOL units got the heavy, wider die-cast trim. My J 370 30-inch free-standing range (upper-MOL) has the narrow trim, but my J 757 (TOL) has the wide trim.
If you see a self-cleaning GE double wall oven with the narrow trim on its oven windows, you're looking at an upper-MOL unit, where only one of the ovens has the P*7 feature. For a long time, that unit was the JK 25, seen in the shot below. As you can see, it strongly resembles a JK 29, which was entirely intentional. But the window frames, the lack of a P*7 lock lever on the lower oven, the lack of chrome trim around the doors and the lack of a meat thermometer dial give it away.[this post was last edited: 10/21/2014-12:16]
Thanks for clearing that up - the non-windowed version is JK 28, the windowed one is JK 29. Got it.
Now for the window trim. That's not a yearly change, it's a model feature. GE did this on its TOL ranges and ovens - everything through upper-MOL units got the narrow stainless trim. TOL units got the heavy, wider die-cast trim. My J 370 30-inch free-standing range (upper-MOL) has the narrow trim, but my J 757 (TOL) has the wide trim.
If you see a self-cleaning GE double wall oven with the narrow trim on its oven windows, you're looking at an upper-MOL unit, where only one of the ovens has the P*7 feature. For a long time, that unit was the JK 25, seen in the shot below. As you can see, it strongly resembles a JK 29, which was entirely intentional. But the window frames, the lack of a P*7 lock lever on the lower oven, the lack of chrome trim around the doors and the lack of a meat thermometer dial give it away.[this post was last edited: 10/21/2014-12:16]
firedome
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and just to further complicate things...lol
GE also had a JK-22 double oven that apparently was a JK-25, without the windows?
One is shown in a ca. 1968 contractor promotional piece that I have, along with a JK-29 and a J-797 range and other appliances being hawked to builders.
GE also had a JK-22 double oven that apparently was a JK-25, without the windows?
One is shown in a ca. 1968 contractor promotional piece that I have, along with a JK-29 and a J-797 range and other appliances being hawked to builders.
danemodsandy
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Roger:
The 1971 catalog I have shows only the JC 25, a double-oven unit with windowed doors and no P*7 in either oven.
GE's "builder's specials" seem to have been precisely that - offered to builders, and not through retail outlets. I'll happily stand corrected on this if anyone has more info.
The 1971 catalog I have shows only the JC 25, a double-oven unit with windowed doors and no P*7 in either oven.
GE's "builder's specials" seem to have been precisely that - offered to builders, and not through retail outlets. I'll happily stand corrected on this if anyone has more info.
firedome
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could well be a Builder Special (BS? LOL)
here's the descrip from the promo piece:
"The perfect option - economically priced!'
"GE's Double Oven model JK22 features P-7 self-cleaning upper oven and conventional lower oven. Also shown - JP76 Cooktop and JV61 Hood"
The control panel looks identical to the JK-29, but is pictured small enough that actual details aren't visible. Doors are shown open and hard to see in the horizontal plane, but both appear to be windowless. It's kind of a cool piece of lit in that it's directed strictly towards the construction industry.
here's the descrip from the promo piece:
"The perfect option - economically priced!'
"GE's Double Oven model JK22 features P-7 self-cleaning upper oven and conventional lower oven. Also shown - JP76 Cooktop and JV61 Hood"
The control panel looks identical to the JK-29, but is pictured small enough that actual details aren't visible. Doors are shown open and hard to see in the horizontal plane, but both appear to be windowless. It's kind of a cool piece of lit in that it's directed strictly towards the construction industry.
I have seen so many versions of these GE double ovens... both ovens with windows, both without, or window upper, no window lower... and I thought models with the upper oven self cleaning and lower oven not. And, as Sandy explained, the larger chrome trim (TOL, like Rogers wonderful new ovens) and the smaller chrome trim.
mercury6768
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We moved into a house about 3 years ago that has the white JK-29 double/self-cleaning ovens. It is in great shape and everything works. Unfortunately, the inner door tab that slides into the hinge broke, so it's now being repaired and I cannot WAIT for it to be intact again.
There is a quite a bit of useful information in this thread that has really helped me to understand/confirm what a gem we have, and just reinforced our desire to keep it as long as we possibly can. Apparently the previous homeowners loved it too, as they must have kept it when they remodeled the kitchen -- even then, it was probably 20 years old.
It has a coordinating Broan range hood installed over it that also works very well -- so quiet, considering the amount of draw it has.
Pic attached, sorry it's not the best.
There is a quite a bit of useful information in this thread that has really helped me to understand/confirm what a gem we have, and just reinforced our desire to keep it as long as we possibly can. Apparently the previous homeowners loved it too, as they must have kept it when they remodeled the kitchen -- even then, it was probably 20 years old.
It has a coordinating Broan range hood installed over it that also works very well -- so quiet, considering the amount of draw it has.
Pic attached, sorry it's not the best.
firedome
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well worth repair...
one of the best non-commercial electric wall ovens ever!, and it has self-cleaning on both ovens!
one of the best non-commercial electric wall ovens ever!, and it has self-cleaning on both ovens!
firedome
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and here's ours,
in Coppertone. Now just awaiting a house to put it in:
in Coppertone. Now just awaiting a house to put it in:
mercury6768
New member
Nice! Almost identical to ours...but I notice that the handles are slightly different. Ours has faux wood inserts, yours have brushed metallic inserts. Probably manufactured different years.
Thermostat Replacement...please help!!
I have a Coppertone Hotpoint double wall oven and I understand they were made by GE. It looks just like the GE above but it is 24" wide. The bake element in the upper over started sparking and died. I replaced it but now the knob indicator light doesn't come on and the element doesn't either. Anyone have any ideas? I've been told it could be the thermostat. Does anyone know if that requires a new part? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
I have a Coppertone Hotpoint double wall oven and I understand they were made by GE. It looks just like the GE above but it is 24" wide. The bake element in the upper over started sparking and died. I replaced it but now the knob indicator light doesn't come on and the element doesn't either. Anyone have any ideas? I've been told it could be the thermostat. Does anyone know if that requires a new part? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
Non Working HP Wall Oven
You just have to check it out, it could be just a burned wire or a bad selector switch as well and a bad thromostat is certainly a possibility.
John L.
You just have to check it out, it could be just a burned wire or a bad selector switch as well and a bad thromostat is certainly a possibility.
John L.
norgeway
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I have a beautiful Almond
GE p7 double wall oven, P7 on top manual on bottom with a matching cooktop, infinite heat 2 wire wired in units, it can be someones if they want it,,,a REAL DEAL I saved it from a kitchen remodel at the retirement community where I used to work,
GE p7 double wall oven, P7 on top manual on bottom with a matching cooktop, infinite heat 2 wire wired in units, it can be someones if they want it,,,a REAL DEAL I saved it from a kitchen remodel at the retirement community where I used to work,
