Straight from the GE website, a good video on the mechanics of the new hydrowave wash system
GE Hydrowave wash video
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fascinating!
I was actually impressed. Maybe I "should" consider a GE washer with Hydrowave when I need one.
The materials and construction inside did seem to be confidence inspiring.
ALSO! I ventured into the dishwasher vids. Under the "gaskets" vid, they showed a new BOL model. You know,the models that usually have that filter screen along the back of the tank?
I guess they DID change the design and now use an active circular filter chamber under the spray arm, like in the BrilliantClean systems.
Very interesting.
I was actually impressed. Maybe I "should" consider a GE washer with Hydrowave when I need one.
The materials and construction inside did seem to be confidence inspiring.
ALSO! I ventured into the dishwasher vids. Under the "gaskets" vid, they showed a new BOL model. You know,the models that usually have that filter screen along the back of the tank?
I guess they DID change the design and now use an active circular filter chamber under the spray arm, like in the BrilliantClean systems.
Very interesting.
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But that's only marketing gibberish! It doesn't say anything that might be really important except (maybe) the clunk noise when the machine begins to agitate
It will be interesting to see
1) How its performance compares to other, high-speed, agitator-based toploaders in Consumer Reports tests
2) If Whirlpool (in other words, every toploading brand except Frigidaire and Fisher & Paykel) decide to adopt a slower, longer agitator stroke at some point.
Everything old is new again, as they say...
1) How its performance compares to other, high-speed, agitator-based toploaders in Consumer Reports tests
2) If Whirlpool (in other words, every toploading brand except Frigidaire and Fisher & Paykel) decide to adopt a slower, longer agitator stroke at some point.
Everything old is new again, as they say...
Yes!Yes! want to see slower longer strokes---can't the WP-KN DD designs be remade to do a longer-slower stroke?beleive this could be done by redesigning the transmission and putting a gearbox on it to slow the motor speed down like the belt and large transmission pulley did in BD machines.don't think it would be that hard for the Mechanical Depts at Whirlpool.Get rid of the fast short stroke BLENDERS!These fast machines would be better for milkshakes than clothes!In the maintime if you want a good traditional machine guess you have to go Speed Queen.BD KN-WP machines are now hard to find here-had one of mine die and looking for a replacement.I am on a waiting list with all of the appliance swap shops out here!
I think Whirlpool can make DD Top-Loaders with longer and gentler agitation strokes by doing away with the transmission entirely a.l.a. the Kenmore Oasis/Whirlpool Cabrio/Maytag Bravos agitator versions. We have the Kenmore Oasis with agitator in my house and although I have never tricked the lid lock(I will someday.)I can tell it does a longer and slower agitation stroke because of the length and frequency of the "Vroom" windshield-wiper-like agitation sounds and the fact that I can usually hear a lot of splashing.
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O HO! Finally the video! This is very seemed GE washer made in Brazil but here, the basket and agitator move in the washing.
Very cool!!!
Very cool!!!
clunk clunk
that clunk (which sounded more like a metallic click of a solenoid) is probably the mechanism that dictates movement of either the agitator or wash drum.
That doesn't bother me. We've all been dealing with GE solenoids for years in their older dishwashers.
If that's the loudest part of the washer, that's no big deal.
I couldn't believe how loud and rickety the wash action was in their older machines.
GE's got a lot of cool vids online now. Very neat.
that clunk (which sounded more like a metallic click of a solenoid) is probably the mechanism that dictates movement of either the agitator or wash drum.
That doesn't bother me. We've all been dealing with GE solenoids for years in their older dishwashers.
If that's the loudest part of the washer, that's no big deal.
I couldn't believe how loud and rickety the wash action was in their older machines.
GE's got a lot of cool vids online now. Very neat.
Whoops! Thanks for pointing out, Rex, that Speed Queen also uses a longer, slower agitation stroke. There isn't a dealership anywhere near me, so I keep forgetting they're back in production for home use.
I don't know. I have read a couple of reviews that say that the Hydrowave action doesn't clean very well. To me, it looks like the fast action comparison shown would clean far better. As far as Speed Queen, I think they are way overpriced; $600 for a conventional top loader is quite a lot to ask, plus I have read that those machines are absolute horrors to repair. We probably won't see them on the market much longer. Hardly anyone sells them anyway.
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Hydrowave / Smdrowave whatever it's garbage. Im not impressed not to knock anyone that has one. All I think about when I see these is the action of a GM Frigidaire or the action of a Kelvinator (now thats a real Hydrowave)
Peter
Hydrowave / Smdrowave whatever it's garbage. Im not impressed not to knock anyone that has one. All I think about when I see these is the action of a GM Frigidaire or the action of a Kelvinator (now thats a real Hydrowave)
Peter
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The wash action is like the one in the World Washer that the portable WP & GE washers use. I guess it is beefier for a larger washer, but why did they show the tub only 2/3s full of water? It's still a top loader so they must have to monkey around with the hot water and total water use to meet the Federal energy guidelines. Of course, we have had four decades since the first warnings about limited supplies of fossil fuels and the problems our nation would eventually face by depleting our wealth for oil, three decades in which we should have been developing solar energy for a large percentage of water heating including refinements which boost efficiency and drive down costs of using solar energy. We could have also been developing technology to make greater use of recovered waste heat from air conditioning and other heat generating operations and we could have been developing ways to make ground water and earth loop heat pumps more efficient, affordable, widely marketed and used, but NOOOO, we had to let the petroleum industry dictate energy policy so that instead of having plentiful supplies of relatively cheap hot water that do not require burning fossil fuels somewhere along the line, we are stuck with draconian methods of reducing energy use that could have been more gradual and possibly not as severe. You either buy an expensive front load washer or get poor cleaning with a hobbled top loader. You have the priviledge of using dishwashers with very long cycles that deliver iffy cleaning and drying performance. And while Iceland gets 100 percent of its hot water and heating, IIRC, and a great percentage of its total energy needs from geothermal energy, for decades researchers in our country dismissed it as too messy. Granted, we don't have red hot lava under most of our country like Iceland, but we do have great amounts in places. I guess geothermal works for Iceland because they did not have BIG OIL telling them it would not work.
The wash action is like the one in the World Washer that the portable WP & GE washers use. I guess it is beefier for a larger washer, but why did they show the tub only 2/3s full of water? It's still a top loader so they must have to monkey around with the hot water and total water use to meet the Federal energy guidelines. Of course, we have had four decades since the first warnings about limited supplies of fossil fuels and the problems our nation would eventually face by depleting our wealth for oil, three decades in which we should have been developing solar energy for a large percentage of water heating including refinements which boost efficiency and drive down costs of using solar energy. We could have also been developing technology to make greater use of recovered waste heat from air conditioning and other heat generating operations and we could have been developing ways to make ground water and earth loop heat pumps more efficient, affordable, widely marketed and used, but NOOOO, we had to let the petroleum industry dictate energy policy so that instead of having plentiful supplies of relatively cheap hot water that do not require burning fossil fuels somewhere along the line, we are stuck with draconian methods of reducing energy use that could have been more gradual and possibly not as severe. You either buy an expensive front load washer or get poor cleaning with a hobbled top loader. You have the priviledge of using dishwashers with very long cycles that deliver iffy cleaning and drying performance. And while Iceland gets 100 percent of its hot water and heating, IIRC, and a great percentage of its total energy needs from geothermal energy, for decades researchers in our country dismissed it as too messy. Granted, we don't have red hot lava under most of our country like Iceland, but we do have great amounts in places. I guess geothermal works for Iceland because they did not have BIG OIL telling them it would not work.
How the topic drifts,,,,lol
OK,,I OWN this machine, and the water level does go all the way to the top, so I don't know why GE decided on a lower level. CU rates this machine as "average" in cleaning abilities. But unless you are a diesel mechanic or farmer, most of us city slickers don't get that dirty. And I own the TOL machine at a cost of $495. So while there may be better cleaning machines, you get what you pay for, and I'm satisfied. This video was a marketing ad, and wasn't really intended for forums like this, with people who know a lot more than the average joe does about washer mechanics. I will say, in my opinion, all the sounds in that video are greatly amplified so that you WILL hear them. When my machine washes, its not nearly that loud.
OK,,I OWN this machine, and the water level does go all the way to the top, so I don't know why GE decided on a lower level. CU rates this machine as "average" in cleaning abilities. But unless you are a diesel mechanic or farmer, most of us city slickers don't get that dirty. And I own the TOL machine at a cost of $495. So while there may be better cleaning machines, you get what you pay for, and I'm satisfied. This video was a marketing ad, and wasn't really intended for forums like this, with people who know a lot more than the average joe does about washer mechanics. I will say, in my opinion, all the sounds in that video are greatly amplified so that you WILL hear them. When my machine washes, its not nearly that loud.
Hydrowave wash action
That long stroke wash action is what all domestic Australian machines have used for 20 plus years.
The machines are usually reliable and do an excellent job.
If the machine has a reasonable life span, then it would be a viable alternative to the DD Whirlpool design.
That long stroke wash action is what all domestic Australian machines have used for 20 plus years.
The machines are usually reliable and do an excellent job.
If the machine has a reasonable life span, then it would be a viable alternative to the DD Whirlpool design.
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hydrowave wash action
Nice vid but to me it look just like the same agitator action as F&P smart drive. I have a F&P Intuative and it has a setting where the agitator goes 380 degrees. This setting is called Maxi Wash. It looks like direct drive motors are the way to go.
Nice vid but to me it look just like the same agitator action as F&P smart drive. I have a F&P Intuative and it has a setting where the agitator goes 380 degrees. This setting is called Maxi Wash. It looks like direct drive motors are the way to go.
