funktionalart
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If this price was for the complete suite, this'd be stellar!
GE Potscrubber 1200 plus ovens rangehood and Fridge
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ovrphil
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it looks like he is suggesting that the whole set is $150, by posting all those at once, doesn't it? Can't hurt to ask, if someone is interested.
funktionalart
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Almond *joy* ~
The colour is rampant out here which is why all this stuff is listed so cheap, I think. You just about can't give it away. The DW could at least be easily changed to another finish with no hassle.
Yeah...the $150 I took to mean as the whole set...but not too sure. That's usually what people ask for these fridges on PHX CL. Well, I don't need any of these items, so I guess I'll never know for sure what he wants!
The colour is rampant out here which is why all this stuff is listed so cheap, I think. You just about can't give it away. The DW could at least be easily changed to another finish with no hassle.
Yeah...the $150 I took to mean as the whole set...but not too sure. That's usually what people ask for these fridges on PHX CL. Well, I don't need any of these items, so I guess I'll never know for sure what he wants!
bluejay
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If the dishwasher is like ours, there's a white panel on the flip side of that almond one. It's ridiculously easy to swap out the panels. It's one of the features of older GEs that I like. Does the new stuff do that as well?
funktionalart
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Trim panel kits
were HUGE in the 70s until early 90s. I don't know of any mfg. who does them anymore. All my kitchenaids have them...and personally, it is a *must* feature for me cuz I change my mind constantly and like to be able to alter the looks of things. BTW, your GE fridge door edges are trimmed in chrome which generally means you can remove it and install personalised panel options.
were HUGE in the 70s until early 90s. I don't know of any mfg. who does them anymore. All my kitchenaids have them...and personally, it is a *must* feature for me cuz I change my mind constantly and like to be able to alter the looks of things. BTW, your GE fridge door edges are trimmed in chrome which generally means you can remove it and install personalised panel options.
bluejay
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Oh I know; the manual for the fridge mentions it! It also lists a few of the options. Guess what I'm gonna be hunting for!
color panels
Most likely the dishwasher has almond, white, black and harvest panels. Many of General Electric's dishwashers came from the factory with the interchangeable color panels.
Just unscrew one of the trim pieces of the door and pull out the color panel you want, and voila! Repeat for the lower access panel.
It was an intelligent move for the manufacturer and it was a good selling point for the consumer as well. If you remodeled your kitchen, you didn't have to buy new panels for your dishwasher. Instant facelift. Retailers loved it too because they didn't have to stock dishwashers of various colors. No matter what color dishwasher the customer wanted, it was in the same box.
My guess is one of the corporate bean counters decided it would cost less money to go to the current type of trimless panels.
In one of my older GE appliance catalogues they tried to make the consumer think a negative is a positive. and they stated that their dishwashers have a "new beautiful trimless design."
If you are an appliance afficianado you know the real translation is: "We are screwing you with a production technigue that is saving us big bucks. But you are so stupid we are going to make you think its an advantage." ha.
Most likely the dishwasher has almond, white, black and harvest panels. Many of General Electric's dishwashers came from the factory with the interchangeable color panels.
Just unscrew one of the trim pieces of the door and pull out the color panel you want, and voila! Repeat for the lower access panel.
It was an intelligent move for the manufacturer and it was a good selling point for the consumer as well. If you remodeled your kitchen, you didn't have to buy new panels for your dishwasher. Instant facelift. Retailers loved it too because they didn't have to stock dishwashers of various colors. No matter what color dishwasher the customer wanted, it was in the same box.
My guess is one of the corporate bean counters decided it would cost less money to go to the current type of trimless panels.
In one of my older GE appliance catalogues they tried to make the consumer think a negative is a positive. and they stated that their dishwashers have a "new beautiful trimless design."
If you are an appliance afficianado you know the real translation is: "We are screwing you with a production technigue that is saving us big bucks. But you are so stupid we are going to make you think its an advantage." ha.
Interesting
This particular GE dishwasher seems to either be one of the early "Potscrubber III" models, or what was (presumably) the later "S" series.
Machines of those series replaced the "Normal" and "Light" washes with "Heavy Soil" and "Normal Soil," respectively. In the latter years, this was for energy conserving reasons - where manufacturers used cycles that were previously designated as "Energy Savers" for the normal wash.
Just a quick comparison of cycle sequences:
Normal Wash: Prewash -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted from about 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Rinse (3rd rinse was omitted on some of the mid-late series models)
Light Wash: Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted again from 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse
Heavy Soil: Prewash -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted from about 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Rinse
Normal Wash: Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted again from 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse
This particular GE dishwasher seems to either be one of the early "Potscrubber III" models, or what was (presumably) the later "S" series.
Machines of those series replaced the "Normal" and "Light" washes with "Heavy Soil" and "Normal Soil," respectively. In the latter years, this was for energy conserving reasons - where manufacturers used cycles that were previously designated as "Energy Savers" for the normal wash.
Just a quick comparison of cycle sequences:
Normal Wash: Prewash -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted from about 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Rinse (3rd rinse was omitted on some of the mid-late series models)
Light Wash: Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted again from 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse
Heavy Soil: Prewash -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted from about 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse -> Rinse
Normal Wash: Rinse -> Rinse -> Main-Wash (Boosted again from 120º) -> Rinse -> Rinse
This is not one of the Potscrubber III. If it was, it would be what Debbie Reynolds advertised in the magazine ads and there would be faux woodgrain "color" on parts of the control panel rather than all black with red piping. So it's not an early 1200.
Reversable Panel DWs
Were a cool idea that served a purpose for a good while especially when you had four or more color choices available, but consumers got tired of cleaning all the edges and seems and these reversible panels were almost always aluminum which dented very easily and then looked like crap.
I much prefer the painted steel or SS panels that are on most DWs today, they are much better quality and look and hold up far better.
Were a cool idea that served a purpose for a good while especially when you had four or more color choices available, but consumers got tired of cleaning all the edges and seems and these reversible panels were almost always aluminum which dented very easily and then looked like crap.
I much prefer the painted steel or SS panels that are on most DWs today, they are much better quality and look and hold up far better.
How do you know consumers got tired of cleaning "seems", I think you meant seams. Did you do a survey of every consumer in the U.S.? ha. I find todays door panels cheap,ugly, flimsy and they often rust around the screw holes that attach them.
If somehow you did manage to dent a panel, they were cheap, you just slid a new one in. You dent a door now on a dishwasher, and you have to replace the entire door.
If somehow you did manage to dent a panel, they were cheap, you just slid a new one in. You dent a door now on a dishwasher, and you have to replace the entire door.
Reversible DW Front Panels
Yes Thank You Barry I did mean seams LOL , and yes I did and am doing a survey, I consult with over 2000 appliance owners per year and see another 1500 in their homes every year and yes a lot of the cheap aluminum trim on GE and other brand DWs front panels are and were a frequent complaint, even a frequent reason for buying a new DW, GE and D&M seemed to have the most problems with this.
The trim often got corroded, bent even came loose and on some DW brands the plastic trim they used would fall off and allow the panels to fall out getting bent in the process.
Current one piece steel panels are completely folded around so there are no exposed area where the screws go through the panel so I can't imagine how it could rust, maybe you could post a picture of what you are talking about.
Yes Thank You Barry I did mean seams LOL , and yes I did and am doing a survey, I consult with over 2000 appliance owners per year and see another 1500 in their homes every year and yes a lot of the cheap aluminum trim on GE and other brand DWs front panels are and were a frequent complaint, even a frequent reason for buying a new DW, GE and D&M seemed to have the most problems with this.
The trim often got corroded, bent even came loose and on some DW brands the plastic trim they used would fall off and allow the panels to fall out getting bent in the process.
Current one piece steel panels are completely folded around so there are no exposed area where the screws go through the panel so I can't imagine how it could rust, maybe you could post a picture of what you are talking about.
screw holes
The screw holes are on the bottom of the panel and screw upward into the bottom door metal support it so they are not visible (until the rust continues to grow). But its a common rust starting point that I have seem. Presumably from moisture/drips running down the door.
Do you think that GE, Whirlpool, Maytag, etc. stopped producing removable panel machines due to thousands of consumer complaints? Or do you think they did it to save a buck. I don't speak for the entire appliance industry like you seem to think you speak for all U.S. consumers. However you and I both know that economics (as in cutting production costs) is a pretty strong motivator of appliance companies as one can see from the visisble results.
It's rather sad when the consumer cannot easily change the color of the DW or easily repair a dent without having to buy an entire door.
A damp rag cleans seams, a slide in panel or trim piece takes care of a dent.
A deep pocketbook has to buy an entire door whether its for a minor dent or you decide to remodel. Plus another advantage, with the old style panel system, is that you could put in custom panels (up to a given thickness) of your choice without having to purchase a special trim kit from the manufacturer, as you now do.
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The screw holes are on the bottom of the panel and screw upward into the bottom door metal support it so they are not visible (until the rust continues to grow). But its a common rust starting point that I have seem. Presumably from moisture/drips running down the door.
Do you think that GE, Whirlpool, Maytag, etc. stopped producing removable panel machines due to thousands of consumer complaints? Or do you think they did it to save a buck. I don't speak for the entire appliance industry like you seem to think you speak for all U.S. consumers. However you and I both know that economics (as in cutting production costs) is a pretty strong motivator of appliance companies as one can see from the visisble results.
It's rather sad when the consumer cannot easily change the color of the DW or easily repair a dent without having to buy an entire door.
A damp rag cleans seams, a slide in panel or trim piece takes care of a dent.
A deep pocketbook has to buy an entire door whether its for a minor dent or you decide to remodel. Plus another advantage, with the old style panel system, is that you could put in custom panels (up to a given thickness) of your choice without having to purchase a special trim kit from the manufacturer, as you now do.
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I liked KitchenAid's idea back in the 60's & 70's. The door and lower access panel were sold separate from the rest of the machine, and were available in White, Stainless, Brushed Chrome and several colors, plus a primed finish ready to paint any color.
