GE Steam Dishwasher

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Finally, after delaying it's introduction from November until February it's here: GE's new Steam Dishwasher with Smart Dispense. It's cycle times are fast but it'll also use up to 10 gallons of water... For the Steam Pre-Wash Option it says: "After the second pre-wash fill, the dishwasher stops the water circulation and activates the calrod heater. Water dripping from the glassware and dishware falls onto the calrod heater and creates a wall of steam to help loosen soils before the main wash." Not too exciting, IMO.

BASKETS

 

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LOWER SPRAY "ARM"

 

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LOADED

 

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LOADED II

 

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LOADED III

 

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LOADED IV

 

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ANGLED RACK DRY

 

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LAST ONE

 

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Link to product page here. Use and Care manual here

So what'd you think?

Alex

 

[toploader55]

Strange

The racking looks OK, but the Lower Sray "Arm" is wierd. And why would GE market a Dishwasher in Germany when you have Miele and Bosch ?
I have family in Esslingen and they are Miele people.

 

[logixx]

Oh no - it's not available anywhere in Europe. Actually, don't even know if GE Sells appliances over here. And that kind of water consumption is waaaay too much for European standards. Over here, dishwashers use about 4 gallons for a Pots & Pans cycle and 3 for a regular cycle. Miele claims its Sensor Wash cycle will use only 2 gallons if it senses light soil (wash, rinse, rinse).

What I wonder about: the manual says that when pressing Added Heat / Extra Hot Wash / Temp Boost "the cycle will run longer with heating element on to improve both wash and dry performance." So, will the dishwasher otherwise not heat at all?

 

[andrewinorlando]

Having had the Tall Tub 9800 model, I have to say it's an excellent dishwasher in its original form. It heats water whenever it needs to be heated, based on the cycle you've selected. The 9800 would do a Normal cycle (with no options selected) in exactly 45 minutes, consistently, and that included heating the water in the main wash. A heavily soiled load would run about 62 minutes. The "Added Heat" cycle added 15 minutes to the Normal cycle. This cycle was sufficient to clean oatmeal/hot cereal pots and such with no problem whatsoever. The pre-wash cycle added two heated water changes to the cycle, and served as a kind of "pre-soak" for heavily soiled stuff. From the looks of this one, it's pretty much the same.

I might have to go and trade the LG in for this baby once it's available in the discount stores!!

 

[mark_wpduet]

Funny how the Euro dishwasher uses less than American dishwasher yet the washing machines use MORE.

 

[frigilux]

That's a fine-looking dishwasher that appears to have very flexible loading options. But I have to say that I would miss the upper silverware/cutlery rack on my LG.

Speaking of LG, I visited their website recently, and the TOL model 8910 dishwasher (the one I have) is gone! They put the steam feature on a lower model, and it's now their TOL. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the upper cutlery rack. The new TOL model is rated at 50 db for sound, and mine is 45 db. Glad I bought mine when I did!

Oddly, there is a "Previous Models" button on the dishwasher page, and when you choose it, you can see the models they used to offer, and model 8910 is there. But I don't think you can actually order any of the 'previous models'. Very strange.

 

[roto204]

Hee-hee!

Hmmm, runs the Calrod to improve the washing results, and has a gigantic blue wash-arm with ginormous holes.

GE does stick to what it knows! ;-)

 

[andrewinorlando]

Eugene - our LG's turned out to be too expensive for most markets. Their "replacements" are now under $1,000, versus the retail on the 8910 of almost $1500. They didn't sell too many, which is a shame, because it's a damned good dishwasher.

 

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Eugene and Andrew, looks like ya have a collector's item in the making.

 

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@ Mark_wpduet - DW water consumption

I've read some US dishwasher manuals (Whirlpool and Frigidaire) and noticed your DW do even two prewashes (as EU machines did in the 70s) and even more than two rinses.

Apart from differences between EU and US detergents, IMO US machines rely mostly on the hot water line to heat load and tub. So two prewashes are very effective to purge the line and to heat the load before the main wash. It's a trick to f*** the 120 V issue ...

Euro dishwashers use less water as many people connect them to the cold water line, neverthless manuals say it's worth to use the hot water line in case of solar or gas heater.

Anyway Zanussi/Electrolux (Techna Green with energy save 45°C final rinse option) an Miele (ThermoSpar/hot water connection facility and ElektroSpar/NoHeat cycle with 2 prew only for hot fill *LINK* ) now are pushing consumers to hook their machines to hot water lines.

It's a pity that Miele puts the noHeat program only on TOL models :-((( It would be very handy when there are many appliances switched on in the meanwhile

http://www.miele.co.uk/Resources/OperatingInstructions/G%201833_G%202833.pdf

 

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@ Logixx

Hi Alex,
doesn't that rack design look a bit similar to the new 3 racks ASKO ?? Anyway the "arm" isn't the only odd thing
Look how they loaded that square cookware utensil in Load IV pic,that salad bowl in load II, not to mention those narrow bottles in the corner (load III) ...
It very ridiculous that a manufacturer suggestes to use his product in the wrong way

What about the steam feature on the latest Bauknecht/euro Whirlpool ? I' ve read on the waschmaschinenforum they are even worse than mine ......

GE in Europe.... here in IT we have GE "french door" fridges (we call them "american style" fridges). Even IKEA IT sells a similar double door US made Whirlpool fridge ... at a price that's more mielish rather than ikeal (or better, mieles are cheaper). We're fashion victims )
The odd side of the matter : italian made Smeg are sold even in the US .... greener is the grass .... )