New dishwasher detergent dispensers being flooded

[combo52]

Do dishwashers really need to do a pre-wash

Reply number seventeen , Oh my God every time you ask one of your crazy questions I feel bad for your poor parents. Are either of them still alive.

But seriously a pre-wash was a great advance dishwashers look at what it does. It warms up the dishes, quickly rinses away the heavy soil and then it may be followed by rinse or go into the main wash and release additional detergent ( Detergent should be used in the pre-wash also ).

You would not want to heat the first pre-wash on a dishwasher to around 150°. It would smell bad because of all the food in the water. It takes a lot of electrical energy and it takes a lot of time, dishwasher manufactures discovered the dishwashers work a lot better with a pre-wash with detergent and then a wash with more detergent. There’s all kinds of variations on time and duration, but it really works a lot better.

Some days Chet I wonder if you pay attention to anything you probably will come back and ask the same question again

 

[logixx]

Out of curiosity, I did check the dispenser in my Bosch after the warm pre-wash and it was still dry.

Seems many of these parts are made by Bitron.

https://www.bitron.com/en/industries/home-appliance/dishwashers

 

[Chetlaham]

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<span style="color: #ff9900;">"You would not want to heat the first pre-wash on a dishwasher to around 150°. It would smell bad because of all the food in the water."</span>

 

 

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Well, I don't recall many complaining about their Whirlpool power clean modules which had the option of forcing a thermal hold in the first pre-wash. You talk without taking real world examples or successes into account.


 

I'm listening to the rest- a short prewash is better with loose soils and those consisting of tomato sauce.

 

[maytaga806]

Combo, thank you, I will say something to GE about it cause I’m very fed up with it. This is not normal. As I said before, I know mine isn’t the only newer machine that does this. The new sliding dispenser Whirlpool has been using gets completely flooded as well as it has in my parents Maytag. Also, the seal is totally fine on my GE, but I feel the seal should be much thicker. I just cannot stand the Auto cycle on this machine, it does four pre rinses every single time which is total overkill. I open it up after the first pre rinse and the dishes are already totally clean, thanks to the detergent being flooded out too of course, but it’s a very capable machine that is programmed ridiculously.

About the pre rinse topic, I think what makes the most sense is having an option for a cycle that provides a pre rinse and a cycle that does not provide one, like quick wash or light so that when you don’t have a very heavily soiled cycle it won’t be necessary to do a pre rinse, but you still have that option to have a pre rinse on other cycles for heavier soiled loads. If you don’t want a pre rinse, don’t use the cycles that provide them. Dishwashers have been using pre rinse cycles for longer than I can think back to, and they are very helpful in most loads. I think that concludes that subject pretty well. Options are what gives everybody what they want and need and they can choose what is best for their dishes.

 

[lavamat_jon]

“ About the pre rinse topic, I think what makes the most sense is having an option for a cycle that provides a pre rinse ”

Some of the European dishwashers do. The Miele G6310SC I had allowed you to set a cold pre rinse or warm pre wash (which they called soak) as permanent functions in the setting menus, and I believe the newer ones still do under the Extra Clean programmable function. Bosch/Siemens/Neff force a prewash on the auto cycle if you select the speed option.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

Well I have days where mine works perfectly right and days where the tablet does not dissolve leaving a trail of its innards along the door downward…

— Dave

 

[logixx]

I've had my Bosch skip the pre-wash on auto + speed option if it seemed the water clean enough. That being said, I usually use a cycle without pre-wash and substitute it with an extra interim rinse via the Shine & Dry zeolite dry option.

 

[me]

I've also had problems with tablets not dissolving, it was caused on mine by the sliding flap catching on the edge of the tablet so it only part opened.

I'm now much more careful how I position the tablet in the dispenser, mine slides horizontally though so I just have to angle down the compressed solid tablets so the leading edge doesn't catch and make sure PVA ones are well down into the bottom of the dispenser.