matchboxpaul
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and a better picture of the 9344, but in Polar white...
Getting All Modern - Hotpoint 9560
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matchboxpaul
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Oh - nearly forgot Chris
date codes and colour schemes.
It is rather freaky this but your Microprofile came off the Hotpoint production line a mere 208 machine after mine and Robs.
Your machine is 07 310754.
Mine and Robs is 07 310546.
The date code is the '07' part of the number, which relates to a month an year of manufacture - in our case July 1986. The rest of the number is the machines unique identity number.
It is really strange that they came off the line so close together and yet have finished up so far apart!
I have attached a copy of my date code table, with our date code highlighted....
date codes and colour schemes.
It is rather freaky this but your Microprofile came off the Hotpoint production line a mere 208 machine after mine and Robs.
Your machine is 07 310754.
Mine and Robs is 07 310546.
The date code is the '07' part of the number, which relates to a month an year of manufacture - in our case July 1986. The rest of the number is the machines unique identity number.
It is really strange that they came off the line so close together and yet have finished up so far apart!
I have attached a copy of my date code table, with our date code highlighted....
matchboxpaul
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to the colour schemes
the 'W' in 9560W refers to the cabinet colour and not the trim.
There were three options available:
95xxW.......a machine with white cabinet and brown facia, sidestrips, lid and door surround.
95xxP.......a 'Polar White' machine with white cabinet and white facia, white side strips, white door and white lid surrounds. The plastics on these machines has a tendency to yellow with age.
& finally
95xxA.......a machine with a very fetching 'Almond' cabinet, but with the brown facia and bits n' pieces as found on the 'W' machines.
Hope this all helps.
Cheers
Paul
p.s Below is a Polar White, semi-integrated Microprofile - model 9586P
the 'W' in 9560W refers to the cabinet colour and not the trim.
There were three options available:
95xxW.......a machine with white cabinet and brown facia, sidestrips, lid and door surround.
95xxP.......a 'Polar White' machine with white cabinet and white facia, white side strips, white door and white lid surrounds. The plastics on these machines has a tendency to yellow with age.
& finally
95xxA.......a machine with a very fetching 'Almond' cabinet, but with the brown facia and bits n' pieces as found on the 'W' machines.
Hope this all helps.
Cheers
Paul
p.s Below is a Polar White, semi-integrated Microprofile - model 9586P
matchboxpaul
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model 9536A Electronic 1000 De Luxe in 'Spring Almond'...
matchboxpaul
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and, to show a 'W' version machine, the 9530W Electronic 1000 Plus - this machine was rolling off the production line in 1986 too!
matchboxpaul
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Its getting a bit late Darren, so more restoration pics will have to wait until tomorrow night (unless Rob posts any when he gets in from work later).
By way of compensation here is a link to the vid showing the dire state of the drum when we first got the machine.
The worrying thing is that this machine was being used, in this condition at 1300rpm (in fact 1400rpm, going from what the official service information states!), right up until it was unplumbed, straight after which it came into our possession.
Promise to post some more tomorrow.
Paul
By way of compensation here is a link to the vid showing the dire state of the drum when we first got the machine.
The worrying thing is that this machine was being used, in this condition at 1300rpm (in fact 1400rpm, going from what the official service information states!), right up until it was unplumbed, straight after which it came into our possession.
Promise to post some more tomorrow.
Paul
newwave1
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Geeeeeeeeeesus! That is dangerous! Thanks for posting that paul! I'll wait patiently!
Darren
Darren
So you need a drum?
Wouldn't the drum be the same in much later Hotpoints?
I don't know the model number, but the later all white machines which had a "door pecker" (cable operated door release, links the door latch to the motor so that the door won't open if the drum is still turning) - wouldn't they use the same drum?
Those later machines were sold here for a couple of years, badged as a General Electric. They had plans to completely dominate the front loader market, but they didn't sell well at all.
Chris.
Wouldn't the drum be the same in much later Hotpoints?
I don't know the model number, but the later all white machines which had a "door pecker" (cable operated door release, links the door latch to the motor so that the door won't open if the drum is still turning) - wouldn't they use the same drum?
Those later machines were sold here for a couple of years, badged as a General Electric. They had plans to completely dominate the front loader market, but they didn't sell well at all.
Chris.
hotpoint9534
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Unfortunately the drums are slightly different. The drum in the 9560 is slightly smaller than those in later machines and is no longer available as a spare part.
You can tell the difference between these and the later drums. On the earlier 4.5kg machines there is a wide metal rim around the front of the drum next to the door seal. Later machines (produced from about 1991 onwards) had the later drum with a redesigned front plate. These omit the wide rim, allowing a slightly larger capacity of 5kg. This is still available as a spare part.
Tom.
You can tell the difference between these and the later drums. On the earlier 4.5kg machines there is a wide metal rim around the front of the drum next to the door seal. Later machines (produced from about 1991 onwards) had the later drum with a redesigned front plate. These omit the wide rim, allowing a slightly larger capacity of 5kg. This is still available as a spare part.
Tom.
hotpoint9534
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Having said all that, Rob and Paul's machine may just need a new drum spider which is still available. This is interchangable between the earlier and later inner drum types.
I imagine finding a new 1300rpm GEC motor would be much more difficult!
Tom.
I imagine finding a new 1300rpm GEC motor would be much more difficult!
Tom.
So the drum is different - bugger!
Can you fit a complete set of new model parts - possibly fit the bigger 5kg drum, the matching plastic drum front (the round bit with the hole in the middle and the heater element at the bottom) and the matching door boot, if necessary?
You could end up with a 5kg 9560W. What a ripper that would be!
I'm not one to give up easily when it comes to keeping old washing machines on the road. I even had a Hoover door boot on my 9560W for a while, till I found another orphan Hotpoint 800 rpm model. The Hoover door boot was a very tight fit, the door was a bit tight to shut, and I had to alter the drum end of it, but it worked.
Is using Hoover bits on a Hotpoint sacrilegious? (like using Ford parts on a Holden car.)
Chris.
Can you fit a complete set of new model parts - possibly fit the bigger 5kg drum, the matching plastic drum front (the round bit with the hole in the middle and the heater element at the bottom) and the matching door boot, if necessary?
You could end up with a 5kg 9560W. What a ripper that would be!
I'm not one to give up easily when it comes to keeping old washing machines on the road. I even had a Hoover door boot on my 9560W for a while, till I found another orphan Hotpoint 800 rpm model. The Hoover door boot was a very tight fit, the door was a bit tight to shut, and I had to alter the drum end of it, but it worked.
Is using Hoover bits on a Hotpoint sacrilegious? (like using Ford parts on a Holden car.)
Chris.
matchboxpaul
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Well....
the all important replacement part required is a replacement DRUM!
I will post some more piccies of the restoration in a moment, which will show you all the delightful results of not having the machine repaired when things were obviously so wrong with it.
Hi Chris.
As Tom mentions (thanks for the info Tom), getting a replacement for this machine will be very difficult, as it was specific to higher speed Hotpoints and is now obsolete.
scroll down for Part 2....
the all important replacement part required is a replacement DRUM!
I will post some more piccies of the restoration in a moment, which will show you all the delightful results of not having the machine repaired when things were obviously so wrong with it.
Hi Chris.
As Tom mentions (thanks for the info Tom), getting a replacement for this machine will be very difficult, as it was specific to higher speed Hotpoints and is now obsolete.
scroll down for Part 2....
matchboxpaul
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Here we go then...
front panel off and unfastening the heater wires, prior to removal of the front of the outer drum...
front panel off and unfastening the heater wires, prior to removal of the front of the outer drum...
matchboxpaul
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front of the outer drum off to reveal the beauty of a two thirds detached drum!
Note it sat on the bottom of the plastic outer tub. Also remember that this machine was spinning at 1300/1400rpm in this condition.
Note also an extra feature of this machines drum. As well as being made from a higher grade steel, this drum also has extra bolts and metal plates fastened to the front of the drum, across the area where the paddles are.
Is anyone able to confirm what these are for?
a balancing aid?
or maybe extra strengthening? - although the plates are simply held against the metal of the drum, by the bolts, and are in no way riveted to the drum.
be intereseted to know for sure....
Note it sat on the bottom of the plastic outer tub. Also remember that this machine was spinning at 1300/1400rpm in this condition.
Note also an extra feature of this machines drum. As well as being made from a higher grade steel, this drum also has extra bolts and metal plates fastened to the front of the drum, across the area where the paddles are.
Is anyone able to confirm what these are for?
a balancing aid?
or maybe extra strengthening? - although the plates are simply held against the metal of the drum, by the bolts, and are in no way riveted to the drum.
be intereseted to know for sure....
matchboxpaul
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Upon removal of the drum, the sight that met our eyes was quite honestly ridiculous.
Word is that this is probably down to the use of liquid detergent, as well as limescale removal tablets.
The result is that the drum spider has rotted away....
Word is that this is probably down to the use of liquid detergent, as well as limescale removal tablets.
The result is that the drum spider has rotted away....
matchboxpaul
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close up of the right hand fracture...
matchboxpaul
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and a close up of the left hand break...
matchboxpaul
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and again of the spider...
matchboxpaul
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an empty machine, in readiness for bearing replacement...
matchboxpaul
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the old bearings were actually very sound but, seeing as the drum was out, the chance was taken to put in a replacement set.
The piccy shows the old bearings as well as the delightful staining at the back of the outer drum, as well as the scrapes and grazes from the wonky inner drum...
The piccy shows the old bearings as well as the delightful staining at the back of the outer drum, as well as the scrapes and grazes from the wonky inner drum...
