Getting Ebac FL washer - made in the UK

[robm]

Hi all

Today I am going to take delivery of a 7kg Ebac washer. Got this at a reduced price and on a whim decided to purchase to test. I know some of you will be interested as these are still very rare only coming out fairly recently. There are no videos of these yet operating. I hope to change that!

Will keep you updated

https://www.ebac.com/washing-machines/ecare-7kg-1400-spin-digital-washing-machine

 

[washerguy02]

HI rob, I feel happy for you to get an eBac. I love these machines and I can’t wait to see videos of it. It’s nice that UK production for washers is restoring after some years, I hope there are more UK factories / more washing machine production in UK. I think this means more decent better built machines. I hope you enjoy the eBac and I can’t wait to hear your views on the new machine.

 

[rolls_rapide]

Good Luck!

Ah, I wondered when somebody on here would get one of these. They're still as rare as hen's teeth up here - only the Yorkshire area local shops seem to stock them.

I'm actually surprised that the likes of national Euronics/independent stores don't stock them (North of Scotland to the South of England). You'd think they'd want to steal a march on the competition - dunno what's going through the buyers' heads!

 

[robm]

It is a really interesting machine actually. I have been doing many vids of it and I am going to do something for YouTube soon you can see.

Here are some of the programme overviews -

Cottons takes 4 hours but does reduce to about 3
There is a cotton saver programme that lasts about 2 hours
They synthetics is 1:20 but can be spun on full speed
The Allergy care does a cotton saver wash (45 mins) with 4 rinses and full spin.

This machine uses a good amount of water and the intensive button gives good wash action. I find it gets clothes really clean. Does some deep rinses too.

Build quality isn't bad but not a Miele. It has quite a high pitched inverter motor but not too loud. It also has a water jet. Quite please so far and could be a good collectors item for the future.

 

[washman]

Four hours to wash cottons?

Did I read that correctly?

 

[henene4]

4h is not uncommon for EU Cotton label cycles.

Not that that has been discussed a million times on here...

 

[rolls_rapide]

"spun on full speed"

Good. Far too many foreign machines have dodgy spin speeds. I was reading about the cheaper Chinese brands that had slow spin speeds for the quickwash cycles.

 

[launderess]

Four hours?

Could wash ten or eleven pounds of cottons by hand (using a dolly stick or posser, and mangle) and have them on the line faster.

 

[robm]

Hi all

I have just done a quick overview for youtube. Will do other vids soon.

BTW 4 hours is the max time and it adjusts down.

Rob

 

[rolls_rapide]

Nice Review!

I was looking at machines on behalf of my parents. The Hoover ones are absolute rubbish now. The AXI model's door was too flexible, and had to be lifted to close and latch it.

Regarding the 'Quick Wash' spin speeds:
I've noticed similar 800rpm maximum on other machines (frankly, I'm like you - I'd want a faster spin to get the water out of the garments quicker).

I'm pretty certain that my mum's old Bosch 1400rpm has no dedicated quick wash, but she uses the 'Mixed fabrics' of around 40 minutes (at 30°C) - and its max allowed speed is 800rpm. Completely daft, in my opinion. She then has to do a 'spin alone' afterwards, with the max allowed speed of 1200rpm. Why the hell they couldn't just put the 1200 spin on the 'Mixed Fabrics', I'll never know.

Anyway, how 'tinny' is the Ebac's drum? Try tapping the drum's back wall with a finger-tip where is says 'PLASMA'... does it seem solid or flimsy?

 

[richnz]

4 hours to wash cottons!

One can only imagine the looks the sales folk must receive when they tell customers that gem.

How long does an EU kettle take to boil 1 litre of water?

 

[logixx]

When I sell a washer or dishwasher, I always advise against the use of the Eco cycle. Most people think the energy label applies to the whole machine, which of course is not the case. My favorite cycle to show is Whirlpool's Eco cycle at 6 hours.

Euro kettles are pretty fast at 2 to 3 kW.

 

[robm]

Thank you Rolls-Rapide

I actually thought I'd tap the drums of a few of my machines. My Bosch Logixx, Hoover 9kg (1 year old) and the Ebac, all felt pretty much the same. Not amazingly thick drums. My old Miele from 1999 was solid.

If Ebac can just amend their programming a bit they would be on to a winner. I am going to write to them and reference my review.

Rob

 

[rolls_rapide]

How goes the Ebac machine? Are there any irritations with the design?

 

[gorenje]

Hi Robert

I really like your machine. Congratulations and happy washing !

It is indeed a rare machine as a V-Zug can be, mabe even more rare. It has a simple and sleek design and it seems well build.

I would also say that 3 (or even 4) hours for a Cotton labeled cycle these days really isn't nothing uncommon.

I meen, I don't need to sit in front of the washing machine and watch and wait the entire cycle.
We are talking of a Cotton cycle for heavily soiled whites that need a thorough wash. But a cycle like this lot of people does it maybe only 2 times a month. So I think in this case the result is much more important than the time.

 

[robm]

Ebac review against Hoover, Indesit, Siemens and Bosch

Hi there

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back, it has been a busy week! Thank you 'Gorenje' and 'Rolls Rapide'.

The main niggles with this machine is the way it spends lots of time pulse spinning, endlessly distributing and then stopping, having to re-distribute. Lots of wasted time that is unnecessary. Modern machines have out of balance sensors, I get that with larger loads. The problem is why when the load is perfectly balanced does it then completely stop the drum? If it kept the distribution speed the machine could pulse spin in faster longer stages but not waste time. Sorry it is a bug bear of mine in modern machines. I hate the faffing.

That being said, it is generally a good machine. I've attached a review of machines I have used recently, to compare. To note, I am not an engineer so I cannot comment on internal build or longevity, only time will tell on that. These are just my person experiences. Hope the JPG attached comes out OK. I copied the data from an excel spreadsheet I created.

All the best

 

[henene4]

Redistributing

Redistributing helps with even, thorough and crease-reduced extraction.

You know how when you wring a cloth out by hand you wring, stop, change position and repeat?

Same here. 3 pulses and redistributions in total are perfectly normal.

 

[launderess]

Quite right!

Compare wash extracted in a spin dryer (goes from 0-3300 rpms in < 40 seconds *LOL*), versus laundry out of a washer after even a final spin of 1400rpms.

The former likely will have far more hard creasing than latter.

 

[robm]

Redistributions

For me, pulse spins are an essential part of any modern front loader. What I find frustrating is when the load balances, spins and then stops completely before the next pulse spin. I just wish the drum would at least stay at distribution speed between pulses. This would save endlessly have to re-distribute after every pulse spin.

I have now done a video of the mixed wash. Hope it plays OK.

 

[liamy1]

Cant

Wait to see your review (haven’t watched it yet).

Want to see if it matches Which’s review - they absolutely trashed this machine in their review (IIRC it got a “don’t buy”).