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Ok, so I've posted a thread or two about washers etc... .... The house thing fell through (literally, the foundation collapsed :/) and I'm probably gonna be in this place for a few more years...

I'm getting the bug/itch to replace the Samsung Set that I have.. (Well, store the Landlord's set in my storage.) I absolutely am tired of not having remotely warm water in the wash tub when I have a hot cycle selected ... ...

I'm thinking the MHW8000AG / MED8000AG Maytag pair...

With the price the pair would cost, do you guys think the features etc are worth it?

Will I get a truly hot wash when I select hot?

I'm able to get a decent discount on the pair but. ... I'm wondering reliability etc. They will probably be moved 3 or 4 times in their lifetime.

Thoughts, Comments?
 
I was talking to the sales manager the other day. She told me that she sells lots of Speed Queen top load sets but she has only sold one Speed Queen front load set. She didn't have much to say about them because its a brand they order on demand.

I dunno..

The 8000 Maxima's seem to be really well built now so I dunno what to do.. They both are gonna be the same price roughly, the Maytag has more gizmos, but ... Which set will actually use hot water and wash my clothes?
 
The Speed Queen is built like a tank, but the Maytag Maxima XL 8000 offers heated water via the Extra Hot water selection and cycles like Allergen and Sanitize. It has a steam option, which is good for removing body oils and stains. You'll also get substantially more capacity.

If you choose Maytag: Make sure you get the new Maxima line, which is called Maxima XL. The 8000 currently sits at the top of Consumer Reports' ratings.

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I was snooping around on AJMadison and saw the Fisher and Paykel WA4127G1 machine... What do you guys think of it? It says that it has an auto lint disposal system but I also see that you can get a separate lint filter.



This looks to be the same machine, but I noticed on the deep fill (starting around 10 mins) there isn't much steam coming up from the fill, so is this another machine that fills with cold water?

The thought here is that I'd try a top loader for a bit, then put it in use at a friends place after he gets his laundry room done (adding space/plumbing for a second machine). He works for a sand and gravel company and we need a machine for his work clothes that can handle all the sand and gravel he brings home..

There are so many options out there, and reading around on here I've started looking into things like lint filters and water depths/temperatures etc. I have to deal with lots of pet hair where he has to deal with lots of sand and gravel. Extremes on both ends...

I am torn on what I should do with the Maytag/Speed Queen decision. Logic says to go with the Speed Queen set but I have a Whirlpool Employee Discount available to me. That is what is making the Maxima XL 8000's look so attractive to me.
 
Hrm. Sometimes reading the manual helps..

Wash 2 – Agitation wash (top-loader type wash)
After recirculating the sudsy water through your
clothes for 4 minutes, your WashSmart washer will fill
with just enough cold water to suspend the clothes in
solution. Agitation will then begin, moving soil away
from the clothes.
Note: the detergent activating wash is the only time
during the cycle that hot water is used (when the
machine is completely full the water will be lukewarm).
If you need hot water during the agitation part of the
wash, select the ALLERGY cycle.

At least they have the balls to say they fill with cold water during the agitation cycle.
 
I've had Maxima 7000 series set since December and have been satisfied with them. It allows you to use the booster heater in most of the cycles and you can pretty good temps and water levels as long as you avoid the normal cycle.

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I like that this is also in the manual:

"In addition, some wash loads are better washed using a cycle with a deep rinse. For instance,
garments that have a lot of sand or sawdust in them, or garments where the color still runs. For
these loads select the SOFTENER option, as this will change the rinse to include a deep rinse."

It's nice that they don't try to dumb the user down like most companies do, and instead tell you outright what the features actually do. I wish the options on new washers were "Spray Rinse" or "Deep Rinse" rather than "Fabric Softener On/Off". That way those that aren't familiar with how the machine operates will have a more clear understanding.
 
And this was right under that in the manual! I'm liking F&P more and more!

Scrud
Scrud is the name given to the waxy build-up that can occur within any washer when fabric
softener comes into contact with detergent. This build-up is not brought about by a fault in the
machine. If scrud is allowed to build-up in the machine it can result in stains on your clothes or
an unpleasant smell in your washer.
If you wish to use fabric softener we recommend:
■■ Using fabric softener sparingly.
■■ When filling the dispenser, do not splash or overfill.
■■ Clean the fabric softener dispenser as soon as the cycle is finished (refer page 37).
■■ Clean your machine regularly (refer page 37).
■■ Cold water washing increases the chance of the build-up occurring.
■■ We recommend that a warm wash be used at regular intervals, eg every 5th wash should be warm.
■■ Fabric softener of a thinner consistency is less likely to leave residue on the dispenser and
contribute to a build-up
 
What do you guys think of the new LG 22 lbs top loader with built in heater? It can heat up the water to either 104 or 140 degrees.
 
Ok so, The front loaders.. ... Speed Queen AFN51F/ADE41F Pair... 5k out the door with pedestals, delivery, installation and moving two sets of washers/dryers to different locations...

The Maytag Maxima 8000 Series would be around 2k out the door, with pedestals, delivery, installation and moving the other sets after the Discount I have available...

Will the SpeedQueen's ability to clean be worth the 3k extra? Is it that justifiable? At this point I'd be buying purely on reputation of name and on aesthetics.

That being said... I still need a top loader for now... I can get the AWN542S for 675 out the door, delivery etc. SpeedQueen just increased the warranties. 15 years on transmission, and I forget the rest she said. Another option is that I can get the F&P WashSmart for 775 out the door.

They haven't had the 300 series of the Maytag Centennial top-loaders, so she wasn't sure what to think of them. She said they had nothing but complaints with the older agitator top load models as well as horror stories with the wash-plate HE top loaders. She said if she ordered in the Maytag, I could get it for 450, same bundle out the door.

....

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What do I do?
 


Am I really seeing the roll-over that I am watching? Is LG the only one with a wash plate that can do that or ?? Is there something I am missing on this agitator-less boat?

I ask because of rapunzel's reply.
 
LG washers

I've seen quite a few demos/videos of the LG TL's and I'm actually really impressed. They seem to always fill to the top for large loads, and the wash action is always so fluid and swirly, compared to the WP version where there's water and the clothes are just sitting there. I'm still not sure how they rinse; I imagine because of the full wash fill it probably does some variation of a spray rinse. If I had to buy a TL with a wash plate to save my life, it would be the LG.
 
The more I dig around on the forums and the products on AJ Madison, the more confused I am getting...

http://www.lg.com/us/washers/lg-WM3070HRA-turbowash-washer <-- The video that was just made by a member, MickeyD, has me curious about the recirculating water.

I didn't see anything about the Maxima 8000's having a recirculating spray. Everything that I've been reading about the older top loaders, this seemed to be the feature to have, right?

The more I ask people about washers the more I am told that LG makes a phenomenal set... HE Top Load or Front Load, they seem to be doing better than most of the brand... I know thats probably a sales push, and I know LG had their issues with the top loaders exploding at random, but the videos I keep seeing online are showing me one thing... LG is giving consumers the option to practically program their own wash cycles.. That and the 1300 RPM extract spin, the truebalance system seems to hold to its name...

I truly don't know what I want to spend my money on. I think for now the Speed Queen front loaders are out, because I know deep down its not worth the investment on where I am at currently in my life.

I will probably be in the 12-1500 price range per unit.. I just want something that will clean and I can use for the next 5 years or so without regret.

I know the Maytags will do what I am wanting, but That wild cherry red is beautiful. That TurboWash is getting my attention...

Whats a boy to do?
 
... I do know I need to do something quick before I buy a shot gun...

Stupid Samsung pair that I have now is driving me nuts.

I put some work shirts in to wash, put it on hot knowing it wont get hot, wait about 30 minutes, open the door and the water is 50 degrees.... ...... SERIOUSLY?

I can't believe I've never noticed that this machine doesn't get hot.. ever.. and I've made sure the hot water is working, I hear the hot water cycle and fill when the machine first starts......
 
I don't think you'l be happy with an LG. These also seem to have problems getting the water hot. This is a table from reviewed.com of a Kenmore Elite 41472 using an eight lbs. load and default settings. I'd stick with Whirlpool/Maytag.

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