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That's too sad...I remember reading that when it happened but thought she survived. Why the hell didn't someone throw the breaker and shut it off? And what kind of idiot would let a little girl play in a washer in the first place, and then SHUT THE DOOR? That's what baffles me...

While I have a soft spot for Milnor double and triple-loaders and would take one any day, they have had too many dangerous flaws and they need to be corrected before laundromat use. On their website, there's a recall notice about faulty door latches/switches, and now this.
 
there oughtta be a law

Ok, you need to have a liscense to drive, and to catch fish.
You need permits for a picnic.
Your dog must be registered and have shots.
Any bloomin idiot can reproduce...no tests, no evaluations, nothing for that required at all...
There oughtta be a law for that!
 
Quote: and all while the mother looked on...

Wanna bet the father or mother was on the cell-phone or busy chatting rather than being focused on the task at hand?

Multi-tasking? HA HA. Try doing one thing quickly quietly and efficienty, (and thoroughly) rather than five things "half-fast" and incomplete.

OK vented. feel better.
 
Any bloomin idiot can reproduce...no tests, no evaluations, nothing for that required at all...
There oughtta be a law for that!


A similar topic is addressed in George Orwell's 1984 which I read last year; Reproduction was limited to a certain socioeconomic class of people. I agree though; considering what I've seen as far as "low class" is concerned, there definitely needs to be a test for that!
 
Thats really bad-shows how an "innocent" machine such as a washer can be dangerous-esp a large coin-op model.did the son put the daughter in the machine as a joke-or did she crawl into it on her own out of curiosity?And yes why didn't someone open the breaker?they are supposed to be within sight of the machines just in case something like that happens or the machine catches on fire.Its been a long time since I have used such a machine-do newer ones have the large "emergency" stop buttons on them-many commercial industrial products now do under safety codes.Many years ago my father(insurance claim investigation) investigated an accident involving a "Wascomat" large capacity tumbler washer. the accident involved a laundry company employee who turned off the machine to remove laundry.As she reached inside-she leaned on the front panel with her other hand-the machine started and tore her arm off that reached into the unit.It was found that if pressure was applied to the front panel of the machine-it closed the door interlock switch allowing the machine to start and rotate the wash drum.The women did win the lawsuit.that is something to look out for if anyone has a Wascomat industrial washer in their collection.
In the incident above-that is why I don't have any faith in electronic controls on machines where safety may b e involved-hard contact closures are still best and safest.A hard switch closure may have prevented the accident.I hope OSHA And ANSI looks into this.I am wondering in that story if we are getting the WHOLE story?I don't have much confidence in our press either.
 
After teaching school for 34 years Jeff, I asked myself that question everyday. For one of the most important jobs there are no requirements. Something is wrong!! Terry
 
I have to question why any washer would have a lock on the door and then not have any way to stop the machine and open the door in an emergency. It's just asking for trouble. While we might just think of these people as being dumb, these are kids that are getting hurt or worse and even smart kids do dumb things.
 
Now I understand why the breakers are behind the machines on the wall in some laundromats.

IIRC- In the Wascomats a "normally-open" drain solenoid (when not energized) keeps the water in during the wash by having power applied).

Therefore "off-ing" the power would drain the machine and unlock the door...instantly.
 
This is so sad, I fault the parents as well.

Listen here, Milnor Corp. of New Orleans Louisiana has been producing these machines for almost 50 years now. (Really I don't know but a real long time). There is always someone or something trying to fail another one's success. I hate this crap. Sorry folks!

Steve
 
I can't imagine that horror, to watch your child killed before your eyes, images that would be burned into your mind forever.

Can that kind of grief be assuaged by $18.9 million dollars? It's sad how our society can put a dollar value on life but not on personal responsibility.
 
I have always wondered why dryers have a "start" button, instead of just starting up when the door is closed, and the timer is set. Apparently, this is so that children can't set the timer, then climb into the machine and close the door, and have the machine start up. The fact that someone has to be outside the machine to start it up means that the chances of getting trapped in an operating machine are slim to none.

Most of the front loading machines I have seen have a cancel button on them that will stop, drain, and then unlock the machine. I am suprised that the commercial machines don't have anything of the such on them.

Then again, I was at a local laundromat washing some sleeping bags in a speed queen front loader. I noticed that I had let a string hanging out the door. There was not any way to stop the machine and get the door open to push the string back inside the door.
 
Being a father, that would kill me. It is very tragic.

The last sentence mentions that her brother is being charged with involuntary manslaughter. That suggests, that he helped her in, closed the door, and the machine started accidentily. If that is true, it goes back to the question, where were the parents?

As a parent (7 and 3 year old) I know where my kids are at all times, especially when we are around machinery. They couldn't have gotten away from me long enough to do that. It is tragic, but I don't understand people suing because they were not watching their kids.
 
I remember growing up with a big round Milnor machine. My mom (who worked there at the time) taught me just once "Never open that door while it's running and never get inside because it might start." Those words spoke 30 years ago ring true to this day. This was back in the day of the milnors with the old handle latches. You could easily open one while it was running.

Guess what? I sat and watched but never opened it. Gee. and I was about 5 or 6 years old at the time
 
For the last 5 years AT LEAST, Milnor has been putting out notices, advertisements, all kinds of communications to laundry owners notifying them of this problem with the older machines. I have been notified I don't know how many times since buying my laundry in 1999 and I don't have any Milnor equipment! They run ads serveral times a year in the trade journals, and the journals also run news stories on them. They have been doing this for soooooooo long, I don't think they are liable. It's the lazy ass, slum lord laundry owners who should pay, since they ignore the notices and don't upgrade the door lock/safety switch on their machines, which as I understand is a fairly easy thing to do. Crap like this causes all laundries to pay the penalty with steeper insurance premiums or being dropped altogether.

The problem with the circuit breakers is a double edge sword. If they are out and exposed, some wiseass invariable will mess with them. So, in most cases, they are hidden but accessible. Mine are in the top of the bulkheads between the washers. If you are not a laundry owner and an emergency situation arises, you wouldn't think to look there.

Dexter has only now introduced an emergency stop button on their washers. While softmount commercial washers are rare in a coin-op setting, they usually have a stop button also (because they are really OPL machines with a coin drop). No other manufacturer has them, altho' they are all talking about adding them. The problem with having a stop button is also a double edge sword. People will use it because they need to add a sock! Then when they reshut the door, they have to repay to start the machine. It does not pick up where it left off. Oy!
 
American made clothes dryer have a "start" switch that must be depressed with each opening of the door, to prevent this type of thing.

Maybe now that washers are to be F/L in this country, we need this safety device on washers.

Anyone know where to write to get this message across?
 
umm...

Involuntary manslaughter is a pretty serious crime. It would certainly suggest that the little girl had some help getting in that washer.
I don't understand the lawsuit either. It would be different if the washer opened up and inhaled the kid inside it.
As to power cutoffs, I was at my local laundromat a couple years ago washing a comforter in the big Maytag triple loader. It was stormy, and in the middle of the final spin the power went out for a few minutes. The washer did not unlock...
When it came back on the machine showed some life, but did nothing, and did not unlock.
At the suggestion of another customer, and then after watching her do the same thing, I got the Maytag open with a good swift kick to the front of the machine right by the door latch...
Maybe a look at the safe-ness of these machines is in order...
 
Evil maytags

That's comforting. The solenoid should be normally OPEN so if the power goes out, the door can be opened.

All the more not to trust those things.
 
More to this story . . .

The mother was outside on the pay phone talking to her husband (who works out of town) and the two kids were alone inside.

As to the lawsuit, these are country folk, and largely uneducated past high school. I would be willing to bet some ambulance chasing attorney jumped on this one and probably was talking to the mother the same day the little girl died.

It's tragic. I don't know that a charge of involuntary manslaughter is appropriate in this case. District attorneys have of late become entirely too anxious to pin outrageous charges on kids when it's clearly a case of overkill. I recently read of a case in California where an 11 year-old girl hit an eight year-old boy in the head with a rock after he and a friend bombarded her with water balloons. (She threw the rock at him; she did not simply bash him in the head with it.) Someone called 911 and they brought six squad cars and a helicopter to arrest this child and charge her with assault with a dangerous weapon.

Of course, kids are doing more and more insane things all the time. I am in that stage of midlife now where I am thankful that I will never have to deal with any child-related issues. Don't get me wrong! I think kids are great. I just no longer have the patience and nerves to deal with them on a full time basis.
 
Alarmists. Accidents happen. Darwin at work. Whoever shut the door thinking this was fun or funny is to blame. Inattentive parent(s) is to blame. If the parent gets charged with manslaughter or murder for leaving their kid in a hot car, the same should certainly apply here. "I didn't kill her! The gun did!" Yeah right! User error.
 
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"As to the lawsuit, these are country folk, and largely uneducated past high school."

When do they learn common sense? College?

Lets face it, we've all been kids, and have all done stupid things, or risky things.
I'm not heartless, I feel for the family. This is something they will carry with them for the rest of their lives. I just can't believe how incrediibly stupid this is.
The attorney who filed the suit should be shot...
 
In incidents like this-Those attorneys and clients that file the lawsuits are just the biggest problem and why more and more and more senseless regulations on things to protect the "stupid"-and drive up the cost of products.Lets face it many things we use in our daily lives ARE inheretly dangerous-our cars the first one-I will stay well away from those guys if they drove their car to that laundry facility.Yes-parents and even elementry schools used to educate children-"common sense" to stay away from things that were dangerous-I was taught at an early age that washers,power tools,guns,cars,swimming pools were dangerous.-and to use them safely.
 
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