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This one has a 31% effecitveness.

One thing that is not being said is that vaccines need to be upwardly of 70-80% successful or they are not viable.

........or at least so says Michael Signorile of OutQ satelite radio.

Even is there were a vaccine with a 100% success ratio, it needs to be understood that there are MANY strains of the virus, which will just keep on mutatiing until the vaccine is ultimately no longer (statistcally or actually) effective.

In a nutshell. DON'T EVER STOP PRACTICING SAFER METHODS!

The worse possible scenario is if this instills a false sense of security.

Creepier still is those "volunteers" taking the trial vaccine. Why did ANY become infected if they were smart/careful?
 
And...

Most Vaccines according to what I have read are Mercury and/or Aluminum based. It never made sense to me especially already having a compromised immune system why anyone would inject toxic material as well as dead virus into one's body. I've been Poz for 28 years and never get any type of flu or Pneumonia shots. Plus I never have been on Meds.
Big Pharma hard at work to make themselves more Rich and More Powerful than they already are.
"Be a Good American... Take your Meds, Get Sick and Die".
 
I hope Big Pharmy gets more Rich and Famous, IF,,,,

they can prolong a person's life LONGER than my family member had back in the 80's. The life expenctcy is longer now than it was then.
 
Togs,

There were hundreds (almost 1,000) people in each group. One group got the vaccine, other group got the placebo. Only a few tens of each group got infected, and of those 30% more on the placebo got infected. It's significant, but not ready for prime time. As for protection... I understand that even that isn't 100% effective.
 
As momma used to say, the best way to avoid pregnancy is with aspirin; put one between your kness and don't let it fall.

Perhaps the same can be said with today's "designer" diseases and infections where a good shot of penicillin no longer does the "trick".
 
The belief

that vaccines are based upon metals was discredited decades ago.

I agree with Toggle's mom...and am so not going to tell the old joke about the Greek girl on her wedding night.

At least, not here...

(Hi! Steve! - It's been a while. Took a break.)
 
Aluminum has been used as part of an "adjuvant" for some types of vaccines. An adjuvant is a compound that helps to elicit an immune response. Basically, it's an irritant. I think it was primarily used for sub-cutaneous vaccines.

I believe mercury has been used as a preservative for some types of vaccines (I think it is, or is similar to, "thimerosol".

Personally I think the amount of mercury in a vaccine - if it contains any - would be so small as to be insignificant in terms of triggering a disease. But I've been wrong many times before... and it's been about 30 years since I worked in a university public health school immunology/virology lab.
 
Rich,

You aren't wrong. But then, you only studied these things, silly you. What on earth makes you think you know more about this than an over-ripe playboy bunny?

Even if mercury were still used in a majority of vaccines - it isn't - the quantity approaches the homeopathic level. Same with the - not used here - aluminum compounds and antibiotics. Your child picks up more formaldehyde from car exhaust walking down the street, once, in the morning than from all the aqueous solutions injected into him his entire life!

Since Americans rarely use adjuvants, and they will not be used in the US for the H1N1 vaccines, it is irrelevant that some aluminum compounds have, historically, been so used. Given what scientific research has shown us, I will be specifically taking a European version which does use adjuvants. I had the swine flu variation of '76, thank you very much and do not wish to go through that again. The statistical data that those of us who were ill in '55 or '63 or '76 are immune has turned out to be not quite as well correlated as one might have hoped.

I just fought through this battle with my red-nex brother's family. None are willing to get flu shots and are quite prepared to have their kids tossed out of school next month exactly because of these absurd, long-since rejected notions. That they will thereby almost certainly expose our parents to this killer is irrelevant to them.

When I was young, I didn't understand how epidemics could arise among advanced nations when the vectors were understood. Today, I understand.

Sigh.

 

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