Gorenje dual fuel cooker

[fido]

I have just bought a house in Croatia and it comes with a Gorenje cooker with 2 gas burners and 2 electric plates. It looks like it has been used just on gas, as the mains cable is missing. Did these just come with a normal mains cable and plug, like you would have on a washing machine? I've only dealt with the fully electric cookers that normally have a 6mm cable hard wired to a special cooker outlet.
I also need a knob for one of the gas burners if anyone has spares.
I would like to be able to use this cooker as I won't be living there full time for about another year but will be going for 2 or 3 day periods to do renovation work. I will therefore need 2 of everything for a while.

 

[vacbear58]

two plates

Its not unusual to find two (solid?) plates in places such like self catering holiday apartments which are rated at 13amp, or more likely 16amp, in total so I suspect yours would be similar - usually one plate is larger than the other too. Is the oven gas or electric? I think that would be the real clue for if it gas then they will almost certainly be 16amp, if electric then probably more. is there no ratings plate on it?

Of course if the oven is electric, and you are careful, you could still connect to 16 amp supply (I am having to think in European rather than UK standards here) and only operate the oven and possibly the smaller ring together (like the baby belling has done here since around 1970 or so or just both electric burners. Of course if you have gas then the gas burners can be used also.

I always thought this combo of two gas and two electric burners would be ideal for locations where there is only bottled gas available so you can have the control-ability of gas where needed but when much longer cooking durations are necessary then the electric rings can be used to reduce the risk of running out of gas.

 

[fido]

Thanks Alistair,
Yes, it is a rural location so the gas will be in bottles. I have something similar here in Hungary. In winter I have an Aga type wood burning cooking range but for the summer I use an old 1976 Flavel caravan 2 burner cooker on bottled butane / propane mix. I did intend to buy a full size new gas cooker but never found one I liked so the caravan one is still in use! The electricity supply here is not up to powering a normal 4 ring electric cooker, probably the same applies at the Croatia house. The gas bottles come in 2 sizes and I use the larger one for the stove. I do have a spare bottle but they last me at least 6 months anyway. I don't use the grill on the Flavel and rarely use the oven, as it does not work that well. Because of the small size your roasting tin or whatever has to be too close to the flame on one side and things cook unevenly. I also have one of those little mini electric ovens which can also be used as a grill for sausages, bacon etc.
I've not looked to see if the oven is gas or electric. I only got the keys to the house on Tuesday so I just went for a quick look round to see what things they had left there.

 

[fido]

It looks like the problem is more serious than a missing knob. I took a gas bottle and regulator and tried the one burner that has a knob. I lit it but only got a tiny flame then it went out with a pop. I'm thinking the gas to air mixture might be wrong i.e. too weak. I've tried to do some dismantling but I can't see how the knob comes off. It looks like the spindle might also be missing on the valve with the missing knob. I think they may have bunged it up with some cork to stop the gas escaping.
It's a shame because it seems like quite a well made appliance but I think it will turn out to be beyond repair. I can't find a model number but the oven is electric.

 

[fido]

There are some plated steel covers with elongated screw holes which I think are used to adjust the mixture, they were both set at fully open.

 

[fido]

Replacement

Well I bought another cooker yesterday so it saves me trying to get parts for the Gorenje. This was advertised as an "outside cooker" so I was expecting it to be something designed for outside use like a gas barby or a camping cooker.It turns out it is just a normal kitchen appliance that has been kept outside! As you can see it is rusty in places but has probably not been used much. Compared to the Gorenje it is cheap and nasty but as long as it works..... It is a Gala, not a brand I had ever come across before. I don't know how much it cost as I bought it with some digging tools and the total price was 5000 Forints (about £15).

 

[kenmoreguy89]

Many gasfire stoves used to come with a couple of electric burners, as far as I know, I have always seen them plugged to a regulat outlet with a large cable....no box wiring needed, even true that most household in Italy do have a main limit of 3,3 kwh as max absorbition PER HOUSE, so whenever used in combination with the oven the power would get cut off by the power-meter...
If you think you're going to use them and the oven togheter then I think it's best to wire it in the box, or cooker plug....
If the oven is gas, and you have to power just two plates I think a regular plug should be fine, does the stove have a data plate to see the max absorbition of each plate?
You know, if the plates are no bigger than the usual double plate portable burners they sell, then a regular plug should be fine since they also have a regular plug... They have an average absorbition of 2250-2500 watts
http://www.greenitaliaweb.it/rivend...ornello-elettrico-doppio--tedkp11--bimar.html

 

[jetcone]

FIDO

You traded the digging tools for the stove? Cute pooch in the picture is he yours?

I have to ask why is that gas stove so dusty and dirty around the burners? Is there a lot of dust in the air? I've never seen that inside a gas stove before.

 

 

[fido]

The dog is Charlie, my elderly Basset Hound who is actually American but had languished in boarding kennels for over a year before I got him.
No, I bought 4 items, the stove, a pick-axe and 2 long handled shovels for the total price of 5000 Forints. The digging tools are needed for a job at the new place, making a hole for a septic tank.
I have now tried the Gala cooker and there are problems with that! The main thing is the flame on simmer is too big so boiled things boil over and fried things burn. I think it must be jetted for methane rather than LPG (for LPG the jet sizes are about half that needed for methane). I might see if I can at least get one burner working better by perhaps fitting the jet from the smallest burner into one of the medium size burners.

 

[jetcone]

Charlie

is adorable, it looks like he's languishing well in your couch too!