Got a GE Monitor Top "CA" locally.... one foot in the junkyard!

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David, coming from The Supreme Fridge Whisperer Guru, I had to laugh when you mentioned an educated guess. I will dare to say your expertise in refrigeration theory is unmatched, at the very least from the perspective of applying it to what others consider a lost cause.

 

Yet another amazing resuscitation and rescue from scrap heap oblivion.  I shake my head when I think of the hundreds of thousands, or even millions of refrigerators that have been prematurely destroyed over the past several decades because they were declared hopeless, not to mention the tons of refrigerant that were released rather than recovered (before regulations were implemented) when those fridges were scrapped.

 

I swear, you should consider providing a tissue sample for future cloning.
 
Love to watch and learn

From the Professor of all things refrigeration :)

Now I may not understand all he says especially when it comes to phase shifting motors etc but I have to admire how you bring these old things back to life.

Well done David you really are one very talented repairman and I think you should start a school so you can pass on your knowledge to some keen youngsters !!

Austin
 
Thanks!

Much appreciated are the positive replies! 

 

I get a whole lot of satisfaction from this type of repair work. It's very rewarding to make something work again once it's been given up on. 

 

It's often frustrating to me trying to teach others in any structured setting. I learn by reading, watching, and doing. It's difficult to teach others who don't work in the same way. So for now I think I'll just keep to making videos to share! For my "real job" I have to teach others about certain equipment and it can frustrating.  We are all of equal value as people, I firmly believe that to be true. However, we don't all have the same capability to learn at the same rate via the same channels. 

 

Rich; you're right a shot of Freon is easy-peasy... but painting! Woohoo! That is getting way above my pay grade!  I leave that to the professionals. :) 

There's been a recent spate of drama on another online area of conversation. A restorer has been completely trashed over a paint job and some concealed dirt in a restored fridge; about which the new owner was unhappy and very vocal about it.  After seeing how bad that went down, I choose to leave painting to a professional. 

 

Ralph; I agree with you completely about the waste which the current and recent designs have created. Look at the Samsung fridge lawsuits and buybacks. Those are an absolute joke. Even when the owner tolerates the design flaws leading to leakage and icemaker problems - the compressor is not engineered to last beyond 5 years anyway.  

I remember when the Freon regulations went into effect. In certain regions; no scrap yard would take a fridge which was not declared as having had its refrigerant evacuated. People were having to take the fridge to two places; once for reclamation and then to the dump. Sometimes there was a fee to have the gas removed. To get around this, people would cut the lines themselves, remove the compressor and lines; and then take the hull of the fridge to the landfill with no mechanicals in it.  Eventually they caught onto that and forced the waste operator to refuse any recognizable refrigerator in any condition; without proof of evacuation. So then people were burning them first, and then taking the burned sheet metal to the dump where nobody realized what it was. 

I don't know what the current rules are or if anything has changed. I've been in another industry and doing refrigeration as a hobby only for quite a few years now. Here in AL I take (very few) fridge hulls to a metals recycling place which may not fall under the same rules as a landfill. They never ask about refrigerant; but I expect they have their own reclamation equipment. 

All this is very sad to me, considering the older machines would be better repaired and kept in service versus scrapping. I assure you the ones I have had to scrap were beyond hope due to rusted out cabinets or similar non-repairable concerns. And the mechanical parts are safely stored away for future use.... to keep the next one out of the scrapyard! 

 

The thing that got me learning about antique fridges was one of these crappy ones. I got a new home and workshop about 8 years ago. Bought an apartment-size fridge for my workshop. It was some model from Lowe's and I think it cost about $150. After that, I found a 1950's Frigidaire similar in size and actually very similar in design to the Lowe's one. Same static-cooled condenser and compressor design; and same non-fan evaporator design. The evaporator was in the form of a small freezer box in the top of the fridge compartment. The new fridge and the old one were very similar in design principle. 

The 50's Frigidaire was sold non-working. I found the start-relay was bad, and the door gasket was bad. Changed the relay and door gasket and it was up and running. 

Fast-forward about a year, and the original Lowe's fridge stopped cooling. I checked the electrical side of things and found no issues. The compressor was either seized up, or there was a solid blockage in the system. I tried to have it replaced under warranty but they did not stand behind it. Claimed it had a one-year warranty. 

At this current time, the 71 year old Frigidaire still works perfectly with its original Freon-12 charge. The new one didn't last two years. Both were similar in design; but one had 70 years worth of bean-counter engineering done to it and the other did not. 
 
Dave,

I was joking about the easy-peasy part. None of this is easy, especially on older stuff.

I think you're very wise to leave the painting to the pros. It's a whole nother bag of tricks. Unless of course you're restoring something for your own use.

I remember seeing a monitor top in use about 50 years ago, when I was in college in an old farming community. There is also one in a vintage home/museum in the downtown area where I live (San Leandro) but when I saw it a few years ago it wasn't running. It might need the ministrations of someone like you...
 
Rich; that's a shame that the MT is no longer in that historic home. Hopefully it's been moved to storage or sold to another enthusiast. I do vaguely remember talking to a Monitor Top forum member from California who was looking at one in a historic home to repair for the owner and found a broken line. I had given him all the information necessary to make a repair, but we never heard back from him. Not sure it was the same one but you never know!
 
There was a guy in the Bay Area town of Concord, I think, who had a bunch of monitor tops and I think he was thinning the herd recently.  IIRC, Stan got one from him, or maybe part of one, like a cooling unit or a cabinet.
 
Dave,

I was thinking the same, that the museum probably sold the MT fridge to an enthusiast.

The home is closed now, but when it reopens (no date set as yet) I'll see if I can pay a visit and ask about the MT. As I recall, it was in great shape, just stopped running. No rust that I could see. I recall I opened it and was greeted by the odor of spoiled food.

That was probably at least 10 years ago.
 
Thanks for the encouraging comments! I really appreciate it. 

 

I hope that historic home MT is located and ends up in the right hands!

 

Robert; I'm happy you like seeing my repair videos and find them worth your time.  Sorry I went so long without sharing any videos. It's just the nature of my work. Vintage refrigeration is just a hobby. My 'real job' takes me away from home for sometimes, months at a time. Add that to other obligations and sometimes I just don't have time to do hobbies.

 

As for the formerly-stuck CA in the video I shared - it's been running flawlessly since that point, and seems to be just fine!

Sincerely,

David
 
I agree...there is something satisfying about bringing something that's considered old and beyond repair back to life again.  I recently found another sewing machine at Goodwill.  It was made in 1967 and was all metal.  They wanted $29 for it.  It was completely locked up.  I figured I'd at least get the table it was in so I asked if they'd mark it down since it was seized.  Got it for $15.  Worked my magic on it, got it unlocked and cleaned up, refinished the cabinet and a girl at work now has it in her home...and another girl at work wants one when/if I find another to tinker with.  Just a hobby.  As they used to say, "Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without!"  If something is fixable, I won't get rid of it.
 
Greg, I was raised the same way. You didn't just throw away something unless you had made every effort to repair it. Our family didn't have unlimited money to throw at a new item every time some problem happened. 

 

It's good that you were able to get the sewing machine going and move it on to a good home!  My mom has a very early sewing machine, but familiar with it but when I'm at her place I need to look at it and see.
 
Excellent!

It was really enjoyable to see you get that going again. I’ve been watching your videos off and on all afternoon and evening, soaking up snippets of esoteric fridge knowledge. A friend wanted to store his monitor top in my kitchen. Maybe I should have taken him up on it!
 

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