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The Rev. Phelps and his members of hate are coming to Fort Wayne to protest the four day run of the production "The Laramie Project" A well known play about the healing of the city of Laramie WY. after the brutal beating and murder of Matthew Shephard. In 1998 Shephard was beaten and left hanging on a fence to die for being Gay. The play will be shown at six area churches,and although Phelps and his gang have not obtained the proper permits from The City of Fort Wayne at this time,they will protest each church on March 13th.If you have never heard of The Westboro Baptist Church,or Rev. Phelps, they have a anti Gay web site at: www.godhatesfags.com (I will NOT post a link to it!)
A debate is also schedualed for Phelps at the school I attended in the 1970's Indiana/Purdue University Fort Wayne. The Equal Rights Coalition has planned the forum,and I will attend if at all possible. The debate will take place at 11:00 a.m. on March 13th at IPFW. I have included a link to the Fort Wayne paper is anyone is interested in reading about this event. This event and the attitude of the churches and the people involved proves that although we have made progress,we have a long,long way to go.

Thank you,
Rick

 
Boy, I'm sure glad I live in Canada. It's illegal to perpetrate that kind of hatred here (at least publicly)! There should be a limit on free speech when it involves hatred.
 
Chances are they will probably not obtain permits from the city, which is a good thing.

I'd love to see the look on that guy's face when the cops show up (illegal protest)...
 
Can't they go protest people going on welfare that don't need it! Because I'm tired of my tax money going to people that don't use birth control and do not need to reproduce! Or maybe go after crack lords that are selling it to kids! I mean really! People like that have mental problems! Hopefully someday they will get a clue! There is much more that I would like to say! But I guess I should save that energy just in case I run into one of them!
 
Yeah,Bethann, I know how you feel. They are not worth it. That cult and their leader are un-Christian, sub-human, and have serious mental problems. It's a shame they can't focus themselves on something worthwhile. How do people get like that??? It is very scary. Like that nutty neo-nazi group who killed that judge's husband and mother in Chicago. Can't we just pack them all up and send them somewhere else?
 
Christians?

These people don't deserve an audience. They are not Christians. True Christians don't hate. They respect people for what they are, and try to reach out to as many people as possible.

I really can't stand these nut cases that try to pass themselves off as Christians, preachers, or churches. They are just hate groups that are too chicken to admit it.

If they want to wage a war against evil, why don't they go to some of these countries where people are being murdered for speaking out against their despotic leaders? I can answer that also. Because they are safely hiding behind our Constitution and the right to free speech. Sad, isn't it?
 
Oh, how ignorant!

This bunch hasn't learned that God doesn't hate anybody if you subscribe to biblical principles. You don't have to be religious at all to figure this out! Unfortunately we still have to deal with the worlds twisted minds.
 
Unfortunately

It's everywhere. There was just a little blurb on local
news here about a group driving their vehicles decorated with antigay messages and pictures around local schools. They got the whuppins that they deserved; but sad to say they accomplished their attention getting mission. In good news,
I read a little blurb the other day where a Lesbian creamed
Freds daughter in a local election. Fred and his ilk are just unhappy, maladjusted buffoons!!!
 
Amen, Venus

I'm a Christian and I'll proudly proclaim it anywhere, but I don't hate anyone or shove my beliefs down anyone's throat. Those nuts aren't even close to being Christian. They're a hate group. God doesn't hate gays or any other people. That's just wrong.

GOD HATES HATE
 
Thanks for sharing whats going on.

Myself, always being gay. I guess I have just become numb to this stupidity. I could not wait to move to a more tolerant location, my teen years were ok, not great in the midwest. Rick I do appreciate your post and bringing this back to my attention. I was horrified when the Shephard case, was in the National news everyday (and i still am horrified). May God rest his sweet soul. However I am quite sure, it is not any teenage females dream to, live in public housing, without birthcontrol and to live with a substance abuse problem. That is a whole other social issue. My way of thinking its best not to label anyone, anytime. Like that lady in Lackawanna Blues (which I think everyone should watch) says " Its ok to be upset, but its not ok to hate, Ive lived with that poison ALL MY LIFE" RickR Thanks and keep us posted on how this plays out.
 
Pseudo Christians

I've been lurking for a while, amazed that there are others that consider washers to be fascinating. This topic, though, pushes me over the line where I have to speak out.

I'm a Christian and not ashamed of it. I was in church this morning, it's a well known denomination, and I'm on the church council. PASTOR PHELPS DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME (shouting intended). He doesn't speak for anybody I known in church either. I went to his website and, well, after going in there I needed a shower. "Thank God for the Tsunami"???? "Thank God for 9/11"???? Make that two showers, with a bar of Fels Naptha.

Tonite I'll set aside some time to pray for his misguided soul, for it would truly be wrong to fight hate with more hate.

May the good people of Ft Wayne give him a cold shoulder.
 
Oh, as for the Reverend Mr. Phelps . . . HMPH! Reverend indeed! If you don't have anything nice to say [about somebody] . . best not to say anything at all.

Or as Clairee Belcher said in "Steel Magnolias" -- If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, come sit by me!
 
More of my comments

These jackasses (choice of diction logical) are OBVIOUSLY not Christians. What "Reverend" Phelps doesn't realize is that, like Jason said, God hates "haters". I believe that if no one gives him any attention, neither positive nor negative, he will just pack up and leave, which is usually what happens 99% of the time with these types of people. Another thing he doesn't realize is that he looks like a complete moron carrying "those signs" and displaying all that bulls**t on the Internet.

After looking at all of that I needed a Jet Action wash!
 
When I first saw this nut on TV, I was totally enraged. He just looked the appearance of evil.

And these other stupids, who said "you brought this on yourselves" re: 9/11 and the Tsunami. These fire and brimstone preachers sure give us a taste of God's love, don't they?

I heard someone say, "Even if you don't believe in Jesus, you should at least live by his principles". Phelps and all the other hateful judgemental preachers just ain't doin' it.

 
Not again! Mr. Phelps and his band of extremists have been to Omaha and Nebraska on more than one occaision. The most recent visit was to stand with their messages of hate at the funeral of a teenage boy who had taken his own life in desperation and panic over being gay. Can you imagine the pain and suffering his family was going through to begin with, then only to have these people show up at the FUNERAL?? The story has a somewhat happy ending as several local radio stations got word that he was coming and rallied over 500 people to show up the day they were to arrive and kept Phelps and his freakshow so far back from the funeral and made so much noise, they were hardly noticed or heard.

It's these types of extreme religious zelots that we should be wary of, not for their message but for the next level of "protest" and activism that they may try to carry out... Haven't we lost enough lives through the ages in the name of religion??
 
And we've also lost much through the absence of religion. Let's not forget Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. Bottom line is, evil people will find whatever rationale suits their purpose, depending on the time and place.

Fact is that Phelps is overtly psychopathic (adult antisocial personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, paranoia, etc.), and a quick scan through his history will disclose enough diagnostic signs to fill up any checklist. Also put his name into a search engine along with the phrase "child abuse" and you'll probably find the account of one of his sons who escaped. Beware, if you read that, it will give you nightmares for a month. The guy is clearly earmarked for a one way trip to hell; though if you go with the definition that says hell = alienation from love and from God, he's already there.

How to deal with Phelps:

Ignoring him only gives him a platform for making more self-promoting videos, and possibly for reaching a few more tortured souls with his poison.

a) The serious religious approach. Silent line of people standing in front of and behind his group (so he can't get a clear video shot) with signs such as "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind, and soul, and love thy neighbor as thyself. So says Jesus." Perhaps sing hymns.

b) The overtly political approach. Equally well-disciplined (but not silent) line of people with signs that cut across his message entirely. For example this is a good opportunity to juxtapose the demand for an equal right to legal monogamy (marriage) with Phelps' hate-spew (which after all is merely a more overt version of the hatred behind the latest rash of Jim Crow laws). In this case, the signs read "Equal right to legal monogamy!" and "Love and marriage, go together like a horse and carriage!" and so on. Signs quoting Phelps re. 9/11 and the tsunami would also be appropriate.

Also in this case, singing traditional romantic-love songs that lend themselves to chorus performance. For instance, "Oh yes we're / goin' to the chapel and we're / gonna' get married!" and "Love and marriage" and so on. This will have the effect of driving Phelps et. al. into a furious rage, at which point they will misbehave even more than usual and shoot themselves in the foot even more than usual. This also lends itself to taking your own videos which can later be used to make the point that some of the more "subtle" forms of hatred are only more subtle, not any less hateful.

c) Combination of both of the above, which is the option I prefer.
 
I thoroughly disagree with Phelps on all levels, but I read this thread, and many of the opinions here could be considered hate speech directed at Phelps and his ilk. As much as we would like to shut Phelps down, his group would be able to shut us down. "But Peter, Phelps' hate speech is different." Maybe so, but he does have the Constitutional right to express them and the right to peacefully assemble. Not for nothing, but I rather him be public and show everyone the @$$ he and his followers are, rather than it go underground and fester into the American version of a terrorist organization.

Designgeek, I REALLY like your ideas.
 

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