panthera
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Have we finally grown a pair of balls?
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A mere seven out of how many members here?
Methinks the summertime pix threads that appeal to the non-prudes amongst us won't get an inch of traction this year.
I can smell targeted abuse of this new policy from 2,000 miles away.
Methinks the summertime pix threads that appeal to the non-prudes amongst us won't get an inch of traction this year.
I can smell targeted abuse of this new policy from 2,000 miles away.
Hey, I didn't even get to read it!
I don't think the intention of that report the post function was to flag anything that you don't agree with.
Now I don't personally agree with some of what Keven says, but I do feel that we're all adults and should be able to disagree and still be cordial.
It's surprising that none of the members that found this post offensive bothered to comment here what the issue was.
Cowards
I don't think the intention of that report the post function was to flag anything that you don't agree with.
Now I don't personally agree with some of what Keven says, but I do feel that we're all adults and should be able to disagree and still be cordial.
It's surprising that none of the members that found this post offensive bothered to comment here what the issue was.
Cowards
panthera
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It's up to Robert
I wasn't aware of saying anything offensive, but if he feels I did, than I must have.
Obviously, some of us are going to be targets for heightened scrutiny by certain cliches in our happy little family but that doesn't mean I might still have said something I shouldn't have.
My apologies to Robert in any case.
I wasn't aware of saying anything offensive, but if he feels I did, than I must have.
Obviously, some of us are going to be targets for heightened scrutiny by certain cliches in our happy little family but that doesn't mean I might still have said something I shouldn't have.
My apologies to Robert in any case.
People absolutely do not need to make comments on why they c
"I wasn't aware of saying anything offensive, but if he feels I did, than I must have. "
First of all just because I didn't restore a post within a certain amount of time don't just go and assume I agree with the deletion, we have company this weekend and the web-site is low priority, that is part of the beauty of members being able to tag posts for me.
In looking back at what was posted I don't believe that anything that was posted in the actual text was offensive but I suspect the problem was all in the title. While the language used isn't specifically bad it is obviously in poor taste. A lot of people really like this web site and want to see it treated with respect. Again this is only a guess on my part, I haven't spoke to the "clickers" and I have no plan on doing that. With that said my decision on this post is that it stays deleted. Keven if you want you might try posting your thread again in a much more respectful way.
I see that I'm going to have update this feature so that if the very first post is marked as offensive it needs replace the title of the thread as well.
Since I implemented this system only three things have been removed (all in the super forum). All three I agree with, the first was because the person was suggesting that everyone flag "a certain persons" post. The second was for disrespectful language again. So far I see absolutely no sign of abuse so far and I certain appreciate the help.
"I wasn't aware of saying anything offensive, but if he feels I did, than I must have. "
First of all just because I didn't restore a post within a certain amount of time don't just go and assume I agree with the deletion, we have company this weekend and the web-site is low priority, that is part of the beauty of members being able to tag posts for me.
In looking back at what was posted I don't believe that anything that was posted in the actual text was offensive but I suspect the problem was all in the title. While the language used isn't specifically bad it is obviously in poor taste. A lot of people really like this web site and want to see it treated with respect. Again this is only a guess on my part, I haven't spoke to the "clickers" and I have no plan on doing that. With that said my decision on this post is that it stays deleted. Keven if you want you might try posting your thread again in a much more respectful way.
I see that I'm going to have update this feature so that if the very first post is marked as offensive it needs replace the title of the thread as well.
Since I implemented this system only three things have been removed (all in the super forum). All three I agree with, the first was because the person was suggesting that everyone flag "a certain persons" post. The second was for disrespectful language again. So far I see absolutely no sign of abuse so far and I certain appreciate the help.
yogitunes
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I think someone is missing the point as to the usage of this
Was it a FACT or just your personal OPINION as to using this button
the real purpose was to delete a thread that would be offensive, derogatory, or the discrimination of a race, color, sex, or general status meant to hurt someones pure existence.....
I'm glad to have a place to discuss many subjects among friends, washers and the such are great, but sometimes you have an isue and would like some input from the members.....and as long as it's kept as civil as possible, we are all curious as to the thoughts of others....
but to delete any thread because of individual personal reason is not enough....
I just the same did not even get to read the thread and it was removed....maybe we need to know why it was deleted by such person
if it was a pic of a hot maytag repairman with a buttcrack,
if offended, your choice would be click out of the thread, and don't look.....
if it was demeaning to a person, then we would all agree that this was not appropriate, and not wanted here, and the offender would get the message
Was it a FACT or just your personal OPINION as to using this button
the real purpose was to delete a thread that would be offensive, derogatory, or the discrimination of a race, color, sex, or general status meant to hurt someones pure existence.....
I'm glad to have a place to discuss many subjects among friends, washers and the such are great, but sometimes you have an isue and would like some input from the members.....and as long as it's kept as civil as possible, we are all curious as to the thoughts of others....
but to delete any thread because of individual personal reason is not enough....
I just the same did not even get to read the thread and it was removed....maybe we need to know why it was deleted by such person
if it was a pic of a hot maytag repairman with a buttcrack,
if offended, your choice would be click out of the thread, and don't look.....
if it was demeaning to a person, then we would all agree that this was not appropriate, and not wanted here, and the offender would get the message
toggleswitch2
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I have found a great many posts/threads questionable just as many have found mine to be the same.
What irks me is rigidity of thought. Things such as: "This group is this and that group is that" and its MY WAY OF THINKING OR ELSE. uh, no. Also, once I hear politics it's a knife in my heart. UGH!
I didn't cry to the webmaster about anyone or anything. How could I in light of my track-record?
I did through once ask for some posts to be deleted because the orignal poter asked me nicely to cool it, to keep the thread "classy".
I will probably never report anyone. The rest of the world can sit in judgement, goissip and be cruel, I won't knowingly if I can help it.
If we report our own thread/panel does that count as 5+ votes?
What irks me is rigidity of thought. Things such as: "This group is this and that group is that" and its MY WAY OF THINKING OR ELSE. uh, no. Also, once I hear politics it's a knife in my heart. UGH!
I didn't cry to the webmaster about anyone or anything. How could I in light of my track-record?
I did through once ask for some posts to be deleted because the orignal poter asked me nicely to cool it, to keep the thread "classy".
I will probably never report anyone. The rest of the world can sit in judgement, goissip and be cruel, I won't knowingly if I can help it.
If we report our own thread/panel does that count as 5+ votes?
polkanut
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I feel as Steve does, "Judge not, lest you be judged also".
Me third. I've never and would never report a post from an established member, but I would report an obvious attempt from a new member to spam or troll the forum.
Just out of curiosity, if Keven had said "grown a pair" instead of adding those last two words, would that have been tasteful enough?
Just out of curiosity, if Keven had said "grown a pair" instead of adding those last two words, would that have been tasteful enough?
Clearly, not one of the seven cowards who 86'd Keven's thread owns a pair.
I think the flagging attempts need to appear as posts so that those behind them have to go public, otherwise as I stated above, there is huge potential for certain members' posts to be targeted for flagging abuse. Unfortunately we have some vindictive types among us here and abuse of power is going to result as long as they don't have to show themselves.
Oh damn. I used the term "show themselves." I guess I'm toast.
I think the flagging attempts need to appear as posts so that those behind them have to go public, otherwise as I stated above, there is huge potential for certain members' posts to be targeted for flagging abuse. Unfortunately we have some vindictive types among us here and abuse of power is going to result as long as they don't have to show themselves.
Oh damn. I used the term "show themselves." I guess I'm toast.
nmassman44
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Gawd now I wish I had known what he said to get 7 peoples panties in a bunch. Its like something when its banned you want it...badly!
jmirawm
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judge for yourself.
I just read something. If its offensive I do not go back to it. I certainly would not want to be the one to judge whether or not someone else should see or read it.
I just read something. If its offensive I do not go back to it. I certainly would not want to be the one to judge whether or not someone else should see or read it.
Robert, the webmaster, decided the final fate of the post. That's OK with me.
'nuff said.
'nuff said.
Maybe he meant a pair of (tennis) balls...
I guess is the first post or thread title was flagged it should just go away until Robert reinstates it. I just found it odd to take a look and find nothing.
A post would have to be really bad for me to consider flagging. If you don't like it, hit the back button. Toggles, you'll be next if seven members get so worked up over a pair. I love your posts and feel it adds something to an otherwise dull web surfing experience.
Yogi, if you have a picture like what you mentioned, forward that to me privately.
I guess is the first post or thread title was flagged it should just go away until Robert reinstates it. I just found it odd to take a look and find nothing.
A post would have to be really bad for me to consider flagging. If you don't like it, hit the back button. Toggles, you'll be next if seven members get so worked up over a pair. I love your posts and feel it adds something to an otherwise dull web surfing experience.
Yogi, if you have a picture like what you mentioned, forward that to me privately.
If Anyone Found the Title Offensive
. . . they should delete their membership right now.
This is a site full of men who like to pull machines apart and get their fingernails dirty doing it. I'll wager that the number of members who were not offended in any way by the title is exponentially larger than that of those pathetic few who were, and who do indeed need to either grow a pair or move forward with their gender reassignment surgeries.
. . . they should delete their membership right now.
This is a site full of men who like to pull machines apart and get their fingernails dirty doing it. I'll wager that the number of members who were not offended in any way by the title is exponentially larger than that of those pathetic few who were, and who do indeed need to either grow a pair or move forward with their gender reassignment surgeries.
danemodsandy
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It Seems to Me...
...That Robert is doing everything that can be done to keep everyone as happy as can be, given that we're all different people with different standards.
The new system requires seven flags from seven different people, so it's not a question of one person manipulating the system.
There is a provision for the person whose post has been deleted to appeal.
And we're all guests at Robert's internet party anyway, so it behooves us to conduct ourselves as good guests, including taking our host's hint that enough of something might be enough.
Unless everyone wants Robert to issue a set of hard-edged rules that explicitly state what's acceptable and what's not, and enforce them rigidly, it seems to me we have a system that will work reasonably well. Everyone here should thank their lucky stars that Robert is not a rules-and-regulations freak.
There's an old rule of etiquette that ladies and gentlemen do not discuss sex, politics or religion at a social function. It was formulated for a reason; these are volatile topics that will, sooner or later - and probably sooner - cause discord. In this brave new world we inhabit, why can't we have the sense that people had a hundred years ago, instead of insisting on some right to offend others?
...That Robert is doing everything that can be done to keep everyone as happy as can be, given that we're all different people with different standards.
The new system requires seven flags from seven different people, so it's not a question of one person manipulating the system.
There is a provision for the person whose post has been deleted to appeal.
And we're all guests at Robert's internet party anyway, so it behooves us to conduct ourselves as good guests, including taking our host's hint that enough of something might be enough.
Unless everyone wants Robert to issue a set of hard-edged rules that explicitly state what's acceptable and what's not, and enforce them rigidly, it seems to me we have a system that will work reasonably well. Everyone here should thank their lucky stars that Robert is not a rules-and-regulations freak.
There's an old rule of etiquette that ladies and gentlemen do not discuss sex, politics or religion at a social function. It was formulated for a reason; these are volatile topics that will, sooner or later - and probably sooner - cause discord. In this brave new world we inhabit, why can't we have the sense that people had a hundred years ago, instead of insisting on some right to offend others?
polkanut
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Insert applause here. You said a mouthful, Ralph!
> There's an old rule of etiquette that ladies and gentlemen do not discuss sex, politics or religion at a social function. <
What's left? Exchanging recipes?
AW is one of a relative few forums on the internet that's not policed by a resident group of right-wing fanatic users and moderators. IMO we should support any solution Robert deems best.
What's left? Exchanging recipes?
AW is one of a relative few forums on the internet that's not policed by a resident group of right-wing fanatic users and moderators. IMO we should support any solution Robert deems best.
This isn't Let's Make a Deal and I'm not Monty H
While the language used isn't specifically bad it is obviously in poor taste. A lot of people really like this web site and want to see it treated with respect.
Why do I have repeat this am I not speaking clearly?
It doesn't matter who flags what as I have the ability to restore it if I want to. I you have a problem with it then take it up with me, not the people who clicked report, but in this case I told you what my decision was now deal with it.
While the language used isn't specifically bad it is obviously in poor taste. A lot of people really like this web site and want to see it treated with respect.
Why do I have repeat this am I not speaking clearly?
It doesn't matter who flags what as I have the ability to restore it if I want to. I you have a problem with it then take it up with me, not the people who clicked report, but in this case I told you what my decision was now deal with it.
OK Robert, but . . .
I think the fact that none of the Self-appointed Seven are stepping up here to reveal and/or defend themselves speaks volumes about their invertebrate traits. If they are so righteously high and mighty, why hasn't a single one of them come forward to justify their actions? It's a despicable case of cowardice no matter how you slice it.
I think the fact that none of the Self-appointed Seven are stepping up here to reveal and/or defend themselves speaks volumes about their invertebrate traits. If they are so righteously high and mighty, why hasn't a single one of them come forward to justify their actions? It's a despicable case of cowardice no matter how you slice it.
ronhic
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Robert,
I have absolutely no idea what was posted and given that there are only a couple of words in the English language that make me raise my eye-brows, I possibly wouldn't have found it too bad. That is me, not everyone else. However, thank you for altering the web-site so that we, as participants, may effectively 'have a say' as to what remains posted and what does not. Whilst I know that we could always email you directly, and I have done so in the past, this does make it a little easier. .....
BUT....
The act of having to compose an email does mean that an individual has to give some thought as to the 'whys' and 'what fors' rather than just 'click'. I gather that is why there is a trigger number?
I have no doubt at all that you will be keeping track of who clicks on whose posts to see if there is a particular pattern arising and that we can be sure that, should there be some form of 'post-bullying' occuring with particular members posts, you take those people to task.
Kind Regards
Chris
I have absolutely no idea what was posted and given that there are only a couple of words in the English language that make me raise my eye-brows, I possibly wouldn't have found it too bad. That is me, not everyone else. However, thank you for altering the web-site so that we, as participants, may effectively 'have a say' as to what remains posted and what does not. Whilst I know that we could always email you directly, and I have done so in the past, this does make it a little easier. .....
BUT....
The act of having to compose an email does mean that an individual has to give some thought as to the 'whys' and 'what fors' rather than just 'click'. I gather that is why there is a trigger number?
I have no doubt at all that you will be keeping track of who clicks on whose posts to see if there is a particular pattern arising and that we can be sure that, should there be some form of 'post-bullying' occuring with particular members posts, you take those people to task.
Kind Regards
Chris
sudsmaster
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Seven active members...
...would have seven pairs of balls...
Or so one would think.
...would have seven pairs of balls...
Or so one would think.
Ciphering
7 pairs of balls
7 secret members
now many guzintas is that
7 pairs of balls
7 secret members
now many guzintas is that
Jeff, yes, Robert did "side" with them (although I'm not exactly sure he would appreciate the use of that term) but also stated above that he did not "believe that anything that was posted in the actual text was offensive." He went on to say that he *did not* review the complaints and only speculates that since the content wasn't offensive, the flaggers must have been put off by the title.
We won't know the motivation behind any of the complaints unless Robert takes the time to review them and chooses to share that information with us, something which as webmaster he is under no obligation to do.
Considering the still very questionable circumstances surrounding the flagging and deleting, I stand behind every statement I have made above, and I am confident that not a single one of the pathetically prissy flaggers will step up and stand behind their cowardly actions, even though I suspect every last one of them is quite capable of doing so in a pair of stilettos.
We won't know the motivation behind any of the complaints unless Robert takes the time to review them and chooses to share that information with us, something which as webmaster he is under no obligation to do.
Considering the still very questionable circumstances surrounding the flagging and deleting, I stand behind every statement I have made above, and I am confident that not a single one of the pathetically prissy flaggers will step up and stand behind their cowardly actions, even though I suspect every last one of them is quite capable of doing so in a pair of stilettos.
maytagbear
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I am bitterly dismayed
by the tone of this thread.
In courts of law, one has the right to know one's accusers.
I have a feeling that these seven are people who just plain don't like Keven.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
by the tone of this thread.
In courts of law, one has the right to know one's accusers.
I have a feeling that these seven are people who just plain don't like Keven.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Ralph you obviously don't get it. I said I suspect that the others clicked because they might have thought that the title was in "poor taste". I looked at it and I DECIDED THAT THE TITLE WAS IN POOR TASTE. That's it, case closed. Granted I should probably have then deleted the title manually, but once I get the code changed next week it will automatically do that.
and, over my dead body will I allow the system to show who clicked report, that is for my internal use.
In courts of law, one has the right to know one's accusers.
This ain't no court of law.
and, over my dead body will I allow the system to show who clicked report, that is for my internal use.
In courts of law, one has the right to know one's accusers.
This ain't no court of law.
sudsmaster
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I think we should all just let this one go.
Obviously Robert is trying to stay above the fray and not have these discussions become a pain in the you know what for him to deal with on a constant basis. You truly cannot please everyone, obviously, but I think he does a real close approximation. There's so much good stuff that goes on and gets said here, let's not lose sight of that.
Obviously Robert is trying to stay above the fray and not have these discussions become a pain in the you know what for him to deal with on a constant basis. You truly cannot please everyone, obviously, but I think he does a real close approximation. There's so much good stuff that goes on and gets said here, let's not lose sight of that.
danemodsandy
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I Am Spartacus!
I am one of the seven.
If anyone wants to know my motivations for doing so (which are not the ones ascribed in the posts I've seen here), email me OFF. THIS. LIST. at [email protected].
I am one of the seven.
If anyone wants to know my motivations for doing so (which are not the ones ascribed in the posts I've seen here), email me OFF. THIS. LIST. at [email protected].
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