HE Powder and sudsing issues; HELP

[roscoe62]

Can anyone tell me which HE powder detergent is good with low sudsing? I have tried Tide, again, with no luck and the Sears brand that was excellent has changed it's formula and seems to be like the last Tide I purchased, so is there something else I could try other than the Persil. I like Persils but pricing of commodities are getting too high to be not conscious how much I'm spending on household products. I'd try Sunlight but it seems the only Sunlight available in my area is in a liquid and I have no luck with liquids.
Thanks for any suggestions

 

[yogitunes]

CostCo's Kirkland brand is inexpensive...and very low sudsing......I am puzzled that your having suds issues with the SearsUP.......I can put 2/3/4 scoops in at a time, depends on soil level...and barely get any suds at all.......

as for TIDE....I never get the HE formula, I go for the Regular...and add only a shot glass for a full load....perfect results everytime....and minimal suds...

usually, I take the SearsUP powder, and Tide with Bleach powder...a scoop of each into the machine, great cleaning, clear rinsing...I really like the scent of the Tide.....

 

[tomturbomatic]

My loads washed in powder Tide HE do not have any smell at the end of the cycle and the sudsing is very low, but I use 2 Tbs with an equal amount of STPP for most loads in my 5-6 kg machines. Are you using some booster or additive which is making the sudsing more exuberant?

 

[mattl]

I never have and issue using Tide or Sears detergent.  However I use a small amount, no where near what they recommend.  Never have an issue with cleaning either, even the tough stuff comes out clean.

 

[arbilab]

I use ~1/3 of the included scoop of Tide HE and the standing suds are gone after the first spray rinse and spin.

 

[powerfin64]

I too, am puzzled with your experiance with Tide HE. I have all the versions of Tide HE powders, and 4 of the HE liquids of tide, with no sudsing problems. How much of Tide did you use? I have not got to use Sears UP yet, hearing its very good.

 

[qualin]

Is Costco's Kirkland washing powder HE rated? I don't see any HE labeling on the tub. When I used it with my top loader, it never generated any suds.

 

[passatdoc]

I live in a hard water area, which may explain my lack of sudsing issues, but I generally use Gain HE or Tide HE for everyday stuff (towels, t-shirts, underwear, jeans). I use either Ariel or Persil (Swedish, UK, and German versions) brought home from Europe for my work clothes (mainly, dress shirts and khakis from LL Bean with 100% cotton/wrinkle-free finish).

I've noted that Ariel and Persil are somewhat less prone to form suds, but domestic HE powders are ok as long as you don't add too much. I have a 3.5 cu ft FL and I use no more than two tablespoons (30 ml, or one level coffee scoop) for a large load. For a small load, closer to one tablespoon/half a scoop.

Dosed in this manner, I never have suds issues, whether using domestic or European detergent. The package directions for both US and European detergents advise using more detergent than I actually use, and I suppose someone who followed the package directions might find themselves in a bit of sudsy trouble.

 

[passatdoc]

@ Bud: Kirkland (Costco) powder sold in the USA has the blue oval "HE" logo (not sure if that is copyrighted or who exactly authorizes its use, but...) and the package says "for both top loading and front loading machines". They simply advise using less for FLs. I've never purchased it, but from what others have posted here, perhaps it's a low sudsing detergent that performs adequately in FLs, rather than a sudsy TL detergent that clearly is not suited for FL use. Still, I have qualms about using a product that claims to be designed for both types of machines.

If the Kirkland detergent you see in Canada lacks the "HE" logo, I can think of several explanations:

1. They sell a different variety of Kirkland detergent in Canada

or

2. Perhaps the HE logo is copyrighted and Canada could have stricter laws regarding who may display the logo on the package.

When I bought my FL six years ago, you'd see the HE logo on a package with a list of the manufacturers who recommended the detergent: Miele, Bosch, Frigidaire, Maytag, Whirlpool, etc. Nowadays, you don't see the manufacturers' logos next to the HE so much any more. I wonder if use of the HE oval was tightly controlled in the past and perhaps now anyone (in the USA) can print a box with the logo, claiming to be specially formulated for FLs. If Canada's labeling laws are stricter than in the USA, that might explain why you don't see the logo on Kirkland boxes.

 

[passatdoc]

@ Bud: Kirkland (Costco) powder sold in the USA has the blue oval "HE" logo (not sure if that is copyrighted or who exactly authorizes its use, but...) and the package says "for both top loading and front loading machines". They simply advise using less for FLs. I've never purchased it, but from what others have posted here, perhaps it's a low sudsing detergent that performs adequately in FLs, rather than a sudsy TL detergent that clearly is not suited for FL use. Still, I have qualms about using a product that claims to be designed for both types of machines.

If the Kirkland detergent you see in Canada lacks the "HE" logo, I can think of several explanations:

1. They sell a different variety of Kirkland detergent in Canada

or

2. Perhaps the HE logo is copyrighted and Canada could have stricter laws regarding who may display the logo on the package.

When I bought my FL six years ago, you'd see the HE logo on a package with a list of the manufacturers who recommended the detergent: Miele, Bosch, Frigidaire, Maytag, Whirlpool, etc. Nowadays, you don't see the manufacturers' logos next to the HE so much any more. I wonder if use of the HE oval was tightly controlled in the past and perhaps now anyone (in the USA) can print a box with the logo, claiming to be specially formulated for FLs. If Canada's labeling laws are stricter than in the USA, that might explain why you don't see the logo on Kirkland boxes.

 

[roscoe62]

Costco is about four hours from here so the Kirkland brand is on hold for the moment. As for Tide the liquid version I have never had any luck with, if I use a tablespoon of the liquid two weeks later I have a suds lock, it is as if does not rinse out of the clothes, especially towels. So I tried the Tide powder and use a small scoop that measures two tablespoons, the same thing happens with towels but the other loads arrive stiff out of the dryer after using a few weeks so you know it isn't rinsing properly. I have had the washer itself checked and the water level is fine for both the wash & rinse cycles.
Maybe my water is too soft, but I don't have a water softner and I use no boosters in the laundry.
As for the Sears brand, I used this product until the last box I ordered came it too was changed.The product had gone from a condensed form like flour to something more like the Tide version, granular, and gave me the same problem, so I bought the Persils, at a premium, had no problems, but it is an expense and I 'm looking for an alternative.
I've tried the HE liquids, they work for a while and then rinsing becomes and issue, I don't get it either?
Tks everyone

 

[jetcone]

"Rosalie's No Suds"

detergent is coming. You will be able to add as much detergent as you want for a clean load and NEVER over suds your machine. We're working on the packaging and commercial right now. I hope to have some to pass out at Kevin's Wash-In next month.

Rosalies- Zero Suds!=Clean Duds!

 

[passatdoc]

@roscoe

See if you can find some Gain HE powder. Although it now appears in stores like Target where I live, for many years it was not available here in markets or discount stores. A Consumer Reports review several years ago rated it #2 (powder version), but it was a year or more before I could try it. I ended up purchasing four boxes from Amazon at a very reasonable price. Drugstore.com might also have it. If 1 tablespoon will get your wash clean, that's all you need to use. Frequent poster Launderess has posted here about using no more than one tablespoon in her Miele. It may be that even two tbsp is too much in your soft water. I have very hard water, and sometimes even a level coffee scoop (30ml, 2 tbsp) leaves some residual suds in the gasket or lower door window (but not a suds lock). If I had soft water, most likely only half a scoop would be needed. I should add that I normally add some Borax to the wash, and that seems to help rinse out the suds in our hard water. Also, I always select the extra rinse where available (some cycles like Quick don't have it), which means three rinses total for Normal and Heavy cycles.

 

[tomturbomatic]

You might want to look again at Persil. IF you have very soft water, you can probably achieve clean washes with just a tablespoon or less of product which means that you will easily get two or three times the number of loads out of a box as is stated by the manufacturer. Remember that Persil is made for hard water. If you can get Amazon's free shipping in Canada (I don't know), buying it for the lowest price should not be a problem and you will have your suds problem solved.

Best of luck.