HE Powder & HE Liquid HELP

[frigilux]

Let us know how the Persil works out for you. Start by using half the recommended dose; you'll probably find you decrease the amount even more for most loads. I use about 1/3 the recommended amount of Unilever (UK) Persil Bio powder with excellent results, even on stained loads.

 

[3beltwesty]

Americans like suds! Americans like suds! Americans

A little of my super FL biased history here as an American front load user for 50 years:

****My family always had a front loader.****

My dad got the FL Westinghouse Laundromat in 1947. We *ALWAYS* used *ALL* in powder, because it was *THE* recommended soap; and it was the only soap that was LOW in sudsing for a front loader. Other soap { pre HE soap era }was useable; one just had to use a tiny amount, since it made so much suds with our super soft water.

IF one used another soap, one had to use *way* way less or one had soap suds all over the place.

It is like about all soaps from the 1940's to early 1990's were purposely made to make a mess of suds, except *ALL*.

Basically *ALL* was a HE soap for 4 + decades, before HE was coined.

If a relative visted our house and used our FL washer 20 years ago ,they would often use 5 to 10 times the amount of soap, and one would have a big mess in the laundry room. A GIANT mess.

The modern HE soaps are low sudsing, the HE label came out for education, to direct modern FL users to a low sudsing soap. The 1976 Westinghouse guide here for washers recommended ALL for their FL washers since it was low sudsing.

Folks who were raised with top loaders in America often still use gobs and gobs of soap even today with a TL or FL washer. A college roommate in the 1970's Disco era use to wash his white pants and white shirts and disco clothes with 2 to 3 cups of Tide at the laundromat, so his clothes all JUMPED out with the UV blacklights at the disco!

I was at Sams club last weekend and a family I know with 1 kid was buying FOUR giant pails of soap. Each is 32 Lbs {14.5 Kg } per pail. Thus I ponder why a family would need 128 Lbs { 58Kg } of soap. It was not even on sale either.

There are folks who use a cup or two of soap with each load in a TL washer, and they believe there HAS to be massive suds.

 

[roscoe62]

Persils & Americans like Suds

@ Frigilux: I will let you know how it works.

@ 3beltwesty : If I could get All here I'd certainly try it since it is a powder, and powder works better in my machine, but I can't get it locally and I can't order from Amazon.com because amazon says it can't deliver to my destination, go figure.So I'm going to try Persils (when it arrives).
Cheers

 

[3beltwesty]

Not sure what happened to powdered ALL ??

*All* here was available in powder form at Walmart, Kroger and Jitney Jungle 7years ago, then it about 5 years ago got hard to find,and today it is in liquid form.

I think the *ALL* brand name got sold a few years back too. I have seen *ALL* in powder form on Ebay and Amazon, but do not see it on *ALL*'s site. Thus I ponder if it is old stock or poor marketing or both.

Here are some quotes from my link:

"In 1957, Lever Brothers acquired the Monsanto Chemical Company's line of "all" detergents, which included Concentrated "all," Liquid "all" and Dishwasher "all." This transaction resulted in an anti-trust suit by the U.S. Department of Justice which charged Lever Brothers with restricting competition by acquiring that piece of Monsanto which manufactured low-suds synthetic detergent, a product similar to one that Lever already made."

In another like Unilever sold off in 2008 its laundry business:

Unilever (NYSE: UN, UL), the Anglo-Dutch consumer products giant, said Monday it was selling its laundry business in the U.S., Canada and Puerto Rico to private equity firm Vestar Capital for $1.45 billion. Included in the deal are the All, Wisk, Sunlight, Surf and Snuggle brands.

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[3beltwesty]

all again

These three ALL boxes on Amazon have no "HE" marking on their boxes; and a box I had from 5 years ago bought from Jitney Jungle grocery store does. Thus the plot thickens

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3beltwesty

I saw powder All several months ago at GFS, in a 17lb. square bucket. That was the only time I've seen it there, and remember the container said Johnson-Diversey on it. Don't know if it was low-suds or not, but it did claim it could be used for floors, etc. in addition to laundry.

You mentioned Jitney Jungle. My aunt in Jackson knew the owners of the company; the lady was one of her customers at the ritzy clothing store she worked in. Too bad Jitney went out of business a few years ago. Are you originally from MS? I have cousins on the coast, one in Ocean Springs and some in Biloxi. Was in Jackson and Hattiesburg in Oct., but didn't get to the coast. Planning on doing so in the Spring.