Heavy soil

[rapunzel]

Hi all,can anyone tell me why top loaders always get poor ra

What types of top loaders are they testing? Traditional agitator machines like Speed Queen or regular F&P top loaders, HE washers like the Aquasmart, Bravos and Cabrios - which work with front loader detergent and have longer wash cycles; and do they test Asian impeller machines like Samsung, Hitachi, LG etc. as well?

 

[mrb627]

My Vote!

I am voting for the GE Filter-Flo. Great Filtration, unforgiving turnover, and relatively easy to repair if necessary.

Malcolm

 

[mikeklondon]

Top Loader Ratings UK

The only top loaders in the Uk that I can find are Whirlpool and a Maytag both are traditional agitators as far as i can see. I'm not sure if the problem is more than just the powders in the UK we mainly have hard water. a wash in a FL would be

Pre Wash with cold fill heat to 40C drain about 15 minutes
Main Wash cold fill heat 40, 50, 60, 75 or 95 C 1H 15 M up to 2h 25 m + soak time if selected
The 3,4 or 5 cold rinses and spin.

I'm not sure how well filling a machine with hot water and 10 /12 minutes washing would work in the UK. When we had Twin Tubs and top loaders you would have socked / pre-washed washing in cold warm water 1st then washed in hot, so that ant stains did not set and heavy soil was removed before the wash. Some FL's use a hot fill BUT in reality its only a warm fill due to the small amount of hot water intake.

Having said that I still want a vintage machine even if only just to use for light soiling like towels and dog beds.

 

[paulc]

Mikeklondon.

I think the reason for poor wash ratings for US style T/L in the UK is the EU test they use. Wash ratings are based on a 60 deg cotton wash as you know. As US T/L do not heat I should think that it is unlikely that the water used is at 60deg straight out of the tap, that coupled with the use of EU detergent and not US detergent would probably account for the poor wash rating.

PaulC

 

[mikeklondon]

Tl ratings

PaulC

Would Cosco detergents sold in the UK work ? I've seen here that it rates well in the US. or may be I should just look for a vintage FL machine to use in the UK I loved to old Bendix machines from the 60s. The other problem I recall when I was a kid with Top Loaders is they could be very harsh on fabrics. My aunt called her Thor her shred-a - matic

 

[rapunzel]

Would Cosco detergents sold in the UK work ?

Probably. Another option would be Amway's SA8.

 

[abcomatic]

HI

Have you thought about a wringer machine? Maytag wringers will get the dirt out for sure; so will an Easy spindrier machine. Yes, you may have to fiddle with this type of non-automatic washer a bit more, but clean clothes for sure come out of these machines.
I had a GE automatic once and loved it. If you have soft water though with this machine, you may have to watch the amount of detergent you use as it will foam up a great deal. I had a Kitchen Aid (Whirlpool) and it was a good washer too. An extra rinse feature is always good. I rinse twice even with my Maytags that don't have that button on them. After it washes and spins, i reset the dial for 5 min. of wash; it will then continue on until finished with 2 rinses. Happy washing and tell us what you get. Gary

 

[Cookietaster12]

Norge's Burpilator doesn't so much persuade clothes to become clean as it bitch-slaps the dirt into submission.

Love it lol

 

[mixfinder]

Horse and Ranch Dirt

My father is Frank Beard of Beard Rodeo Company.  We grew up farming, ranching and working in the fields.  In later life after dad became a member of the PRCA and had sponsors like Wrangler, my parents outfitted their crew with matching outfits for pick up men, judges, guys who worked the chutes, the calf roping pens and the undressing pens.  They had matching outfits for the color bearers and the truck drivers.  My mother washed every piece of it in a Maytag washer and starched and ironed it all with a Rowneta iron.  It was a stipulation of the sponsorship fees that all apparel be clean and starched.  Most contractors sent it out to the cleaners but my parents were too tight to spend the money.  I hear talk of Maytags being lightweights requiring underloading and not good at heavy soil yet everything in my 61 years experience has been anything unlike that.  I have four children and ran a successful bakery and catering business when they were growing up.  I had two sets of Maytags to keep up and they ran round the clock without a repair and always giving a dazzling white wash.  Not one garmet ever suffered damage but I attribute that to proper sorting and loading.  I have a 40 year old A608 that performs flawlessly.  My ex wife has a TOL Atlantis set that is now 13 years old which is a Norge with improvements.  I would never disparage Maytags nor would I Whirlpool although Maytag is quieter and tended to run longer without attention.  Enough time, water and detergent will clean anything and if that fails throw in some soaking if you're dealing with grease.  Your Cossley is a Norge for all intents and purposes so you can manually modify the cycles to meet your needs.  I have found in heavily soiled clothes a cool prewash does more for dirt removal than just about anything.  Hot water sets dirt.  I also believe a lint filter performs more in word than deed and the dryer takes care of most lint and hair.  Google Beard Rodeos.  They sold in 2008 but their legacy lives on.

 

[applianceguy47]

Get a film crew !

"...  I work horses, and professionally, I am a stone mason and garden designer... we are talking DIRT!"

 

OK, there are people who will PAY to watch your cute butt, doing these very things. 

With that money you can buy the machines to look at,

and HIRE someone to wash your clothes.  

 

I know it isn't a 50 plus years old machine, with parts that are hard to find, reliability that is sketchy, and is powered with a 2 prong plug... but, I swear by my Whirlpood Duet.  It will soak, it uses little water or electric.  Uses less detergent.   ...and, It gets the clothes cleaner than a top loader.  If I could marry it or.... or... just have sex with it, well.. 

 

It's true that some machines "bitch slap" the dirt out (that was really a good one), but in todays litigious society, do you really want to be on the hook for that kind of liability.   A Duet is more like, like,  the friendly therapist that counsels the dirt from your clothes in a warm, inviting,  low pressure environment.  The final graduated spin is kind of like, the tilt-a-whirl at an amusement park. 

 

It's up to you, Bro.  When your grinding your ass in the mud, planting a berm with perennials for a client who under appreciates all you do,  do you really want your clothes to suffer the same fate?  A Duet is known to save clothes from excessive wear and tear. 

 

I wish you  the best with what ever you decide.  By the way, If you do start making your own videos, please provide us with the link. 

 

[applianceguy47]

"Heavy Soil" is the label.

 

Here I was apprehensive to open this link, thinking it had something to do with diapers.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

my vote goes to...

GE filter-flo. I remember when I came home wearing a filthy jacket that had caked on dirt. my mom put it in the GE filter-flo in the minibasket on normal speed, small load (not the mini setting), warm/cold and regular cycle. Let me tell you, it beat the dirt out of the sturdy material without beating fibers. Same thing with dirt caked denims. My post filter-flo which came out after did a decent job with rollover.

 

[Chetlaham]

@Reply #5

Do you have close up pics of those control panels?

GE managed to create so many combinations of varying cycles, functions, selections, speeds temps ect.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

washer recommendation

Sorry I'm late, but I'd recommend a GE filter-flo, especially for really dirty play clothes such as jeans and overalls.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

speed queen commercial

Late to the party, but the Speed Queens in my apartment do a true rinse when heavy soil is activated during the normal cycle.