Help organize Sarah’s mid century kitchen

[sarahperdue]

Hi Everyone,

I think I’ve got the floor plan for the kitchen. Please let me know what you think.

Also, please help me decide what goes where—dishes, coffee, cookware, etc.

Thanks,
Sarah

 

[maytagbear]

Is there

a heat proof surface, other than the oven door, to land hot items? It saves the oven hinges!

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[sarahperdue]

Lawrence,

I have two built in Corningware counter savers. My master carpenter and I went down to the house today and worked on the layout. We had to make some changes. I wanted counter space next to the oven, but I haven’t figured out how to do it. For the moment, the cooktop is to the right of the ovens, and there is nothing to the left.

I will post a picture of the new plan soon. It’s challenging working with both the small space and existing cabinets. There are definitely places where being able to customize cabinets to the space would have helped a lot.

 

[sarahperdue]

The latest

Here’s the latest plan

 

[mattl]

I seem to recall a much larger cooktop in earlier discussions.  Did you change it out for a smaller unit?

 

Plan looks pretty good, one issue that bothers me a bit is the peninsula not lining up with the end of the cabinets on the sink wall, may be a non issue.

 

[combo52]

New [ Vintage ] Plan

It is looking good, it looks like a really fun kitchen to work in.

 

I love the two vintage refs at either sides of the kitchen as there will always be someone that wants something from the ref and they won't have to get in the middle of things to grab a soda etc.

 

The island not lining up with the sink line of base cabinets actually looks much better than if it was lined up.

 

Having the wall oven next to the CT is also fine, items can be taken from the oven and either set on an extra element or on one of your Corning Savers. [ Note : setting hot items on an open door will not hurt the hinges, but you have a FD oven anyway, LOL, however you could use the shorter lower oven door if you liked, it is almost strong enough to stand on. ]

 

 

Putting the GE Kitchen Combo on the same side as the sink is a much better place for from a plumbing perspective, also having it on that side you will not to worry about the spin vibration causing a cake to fall as it might if it is next to the WO, LOL.

 

John L.

 

[mattl]

While the sketch looks good, I guess I'm spoiled- I'd like to see a 3D rendering.  I've designed a good number of kitchens and that tool really does help with visualizations.  You might want to go to HD with a rough sketch and have your layout worked up with a basic white flat door cabinet.  Of course they can't include a wall fridge in the sketch, but some basic cabinets will give you a decent idea.

 

[sarahperdue]

Doubts...

I'm very pleased with the current plan but fretting about cabinet space. My current kitchen is pretty small, and I'm not sure I've ended up with the same amount of cabinet space in the country house kitchen.

I'm messing about with the latest plan a bit but hoping I won't end up making major changes. I'm thinking about stacking two wall cabinets with counter in between to the left of the ovens. They will be behind the door, but I'm hoping the 12" depth won't interfere too much. Thoughts?

A more radical possibility is to move the combo to the peninsula, put the ovens on the east wall where the combo is now and put 12" base cabinet and an 18.5" pantry where the ovens are now. I'm not sure I like this idea.

Sarah

 

[sarahperdue]

3D

MattL

Thanks for the suggestion. I have a basic 3D app and have messed around with it using the geometric feature to create boxes and rectangles for things like the wall fridge. I wasn't in love with the app, but I might give it another go. An advantage to having the cabinets there on site is that we have been able to drag them around and go back and forth between the kitchen and the cabinets. That's helped a lot with visualizing how it's going to look.

Using already made cabinets has it's own set of challenges. While I'm happy that I'm doing the metal cabinets, it would definitely be easier to create the cabinets to fit the space.

Once again, I'm doing things the hard--but fun way.

Sarah

 

[mattl]

I forgot you had that neat little kit- it really helps.  Being that the 'north' wall is mostly fridge I agree there is a lack of upper storage.  What cabinets do you have left to work with? If you hung uppers over the peninsula  it will really close in the space, but give you needed storage.  Hard decisions, but you are having fun with it.  Glad it's all coming together!

 

[chachp]

Great kitchen.

 

<span style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; font-size: 14pt;">Sarah, it looks really good.  You must be having such a good time with this.  Did you ever decide on your color scheme?</span>

 

[sarahperdue]

A matter of inches

I've realized that my plan has the 18" deep wall fridge butting flush against the 12" deep corner cabinet. I'm not sure this is going to look right, but I still want the curved cabinet between the right side of the fridge and the door.

What do y'll think about adding a 3" spacer between the corner cabinet and wall fridge? Should it be more? Do you have other ideas?

Thanks,
Sarah

 

[mattl]

Yes, visually the 3" spacer helps.  I would not do any more, perhaps less since visually the cabinets should line up, you're pushing the end of the fridge over part of the curved corner unit.  Might want to try 1 1/2" filler...

 

[mattl]

Just a thought- not related to the fridge, what if you moved the ovens to the end of the sink wall and put the smaller cabinet from there by the cooktop.  In my experience you need space on each side of the cooktop.  The height of the wall ovens might serve to anchor the end and visually tie in a bit with the Americana on the other wall.

 

[sarahperdue]

Moving the ovens

Hi Matt,

Is this what you mean? Except instead of swapping the ovens with the item at the end of the sink wall, which is a 30” GE combination washer/dryer, I’d move the combo to the peninsula and move a 30” cabinet from the peninsula to the left of the cooktop.

I think I like this idea.

Regarding the wall fridge, I just remembered that the 68” install measurements already include 2” of clearance space on either side. I don’t think I’ll need the 2” on the right side because the curved upper cabinet is 6” shallower than the fridge.

Thanks tons!
Sarah

 

[mattl]

You got it.  Play around with that and see how it works for you. Sorry I don't recall all the details of what you have to work with so I'm just working off your sketches.

 

When I did kitchen design I liked to move stuff around on the computer and then look at the renderings.  There were a few times stuff that looked good onn paper just didn't work once you looked at it.  I always liked going through the catalogs and working in unusual pieces. You definitely have a few of those, can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[sarahperdue]

Take 23

I think I like this new arrangement. I can use my built-in counter savers--one will fit to the right of the ovens and the other will fit on the counter to the left of the cooktop.

I've been planning to have the three turquoise appliances, white cabinets, dishwasher, ice maker and combo with the stainless cooktop and hood paired with red linoleum countertops and a grey linoleum floor with a turquoise accent strip around the perimeter. I'm beginning to think it would be warmer to use a coral/orange instead of the red. Also, I have a floor that I think is heart pine in the wing I'm planning to deconstruct. I'm thinking about using it for the kitchen floor if there is enough.

I'll add the picture in a second message from my phone.

Thanks, as always, for your enthusiasm and help,
Sarah

 

[sarahperdue]

The latest

Here’s the drawing

 

[mattl]

I like the fact that when you come in the door on the south wall you are not walking into a large "box".

 

Not knowing the rest of the site lines I'm not sure what the other openings lead to so unsure if this layout impacts other things.

 

Got to say the updated layout feels "right" to me FWIW.