<blockquote>... the only gay club we have here has requirements to even get in the door, and that is VERY sad.</blockquote>Perhaps you could find some success (both business and personal) by opening a club with no restrictions.
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but i am seeing the reality of things,
Yeah well Lee, I'm sorry but in my opinion I don't think you are. The fact that you use statements like "my straight friends, whom i might add out number my gay friends by far" is very telling. While I do agree with you that there are certainly a lot of guys who have a so called "attitude" because of how they think they look, I've seen just as much of this "attitude" with young straight men in terms of the kinds of women they would only date. Its the way human beings are wired. Maybe in your particular situation you do surround yourself with mature, non-shallow straight people but that's not the norm out here in the real world. To spout out about how the gay community is disliked because of this so called "shallowness" that supposedly is so much more prevalent in our world than in the straight world is completely unrealistic. I read a couple of anti-gay web sites everyday (to keep up with the enemy and get a good laugh at their warped sense of what is right and wrong) and I have never read anything remotely close to that subject. Its usually the same two or three reasons over and over about why we are so "bad", but I've never read that they think gay people are bad because some young hot rich gays guys give the non-hot gay guys some attitude.
On the other hand I have seen in my life people being turned away (or made to stand and wait for hours in line) from both straight and gay clubs, but this was in New York City and Los Angeles, I've never heard of it happening here in Minneapolis (although I have seen private parties arranged that way here) so I find it very odd that it would happen in a small city in Tennessee, but stranger things have happened.
Yeah well Lee, I'm sorry but in my opinion I don't think you are. The fact that you use statements like "my straight friends, whom i might add out number my gay friends by far" is very telling. While I do agree with you that there are certainly a lot of guys who have a so called "attitude" because of how they think they look, I've seen just as much of this "attitude" with young straight men in terms of the kinds of women they would only date. Its the way human beings are wired. Maybe in your particular situation you do surround yourself with mature, non-shallow straight people but that's not the norm out here in the real world. To spout out about how the gay community is disliked because of this so called "shallowness" that supposedly is so much more prevalent in our world than in the straight world is completely unrealistic. I read a couple of anti-gay web sites everyday (to keep up with the enemy and get a good laugh at their warped sense of what is right and wrong) and I have never read anything remotely close to that subject. Its usually the same two or three reasons over and over about why we are so "bad", but I've never read that they think gay people are bad because some young hot rich gays guys give the non-hot gay guys some attitude.
On the other hand I have seen in my life people being turned away (or made to stand and wait for hours in line) from both straight and gay clubs, but this was in New York City and Los Angeles, I've never heard of it happening here in Minneapolis (although I have seen private parties arranged that way here) so I find it very odd that it would happen in a small city in Tennessee, but stranger things have happened.
Attitude is part of human life . . .
and it happens to all kinds of people, straight or gay. As has been pointed out here, there is little to be gained from immediately separating gays from straights because deep down most people are more similar than dissimilar to one another.
One thing I love about AW is that nobody here worries much about sexuality, yet they aren't afraid of it either - that's the way the world should work.
and it happens to all kinds of people, straight or gay. As has been pointed out here, there is little to be gained from immediately separating gays from straights because deep down most people are more similar than dissimilar to one another.
One thing I love about AW is that nobody here worries much about sexuality, yet they aren't afraid of it either - that's the way the world should work.
rolls_rapide
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Robert, Don't Show Any More Clips!!
You're spoiling the surprise for us yins in the UK! Were only on Episode 7 of Series Two.
You're spoiling the surprise for us yins in the UK! Were only on Episode 7 of Series Two.
Men in general...
As a gay man that has a disability, I will agree with Lee that there's a segment of gay men that are stuck up. There are also many others that are wondreful. Men in general tend to have more unrealistic criteria for friends and lovers. I recently commented to a friend that I hope I live long enough to see another friend date someone his age.
Before anyone that has an older/younger partner chimes in here let me explain. The issue is with someone that specifically is seeking a partner of a (usually) much younger age.
Lee, I symapathize with you. Small towns can be a bitch. Look a bit harder and you'll find some better gay men to hang with. They're out here!
As a gay man that has a disability, I will agree with Lee that there's a segment of gay men that are stuck up. There are also many others that are wondreful. Men in general tend to have more unrealistic criteria for friends and lovers. I recently commented to a friend that I hope I live long enough to see another friend date someone his age.
Before anyone that has an older/younger partner chimes in here let me explain. The issue is with someone that specifically is seeking a partner of a (usually) much younger age.
Lee, I symapathize with you. Small towns can be a bitch. Look a bit harder and you'll find some better gay men to hang with. They're out here!
So....no one remembers Luke MacFarlane (Scotty from B&S) as a soldier in Iraq on the show "Over There"? Let me tell you, the man looked good in a uniform. With glasses, no less.
I don't think anyones wholly right or wrong here. I've certainly seen the attitude Lee speaks of and I summize a lot of it can be attributed to young gay guys finally out on their own after quite a few years growing up under a great deal of stress, harassment, shame, guilt, closeting, any one or combination of those things or more. Free at last and what else but a little bit out of control or trying to hard to make a better life for themselves without all those "restrictions" that certainly didn't apply to the straight guys from puberty on who were free of the guilt and shame etc. To put it another way straight guys get to sow their wild oats pretty publicly from a young age while the closeted gay guy can't.
In the end though you choose your friends and what you want to make of your life. I firmly believe you can have anything you want if you want it bad enough and stick to it. It worked for me and my partner of 25 years. Neither of us grew up with silver spoons and nobody handed us a free ticket.
In the end though you choose your friends and what you want to make of your life. I firmly believe you can have anything you want if you want it bad enough and stick to it. It worked for me and my partner of 25 years. Neither of us grew up with silver spoons and nobody handed us a free ticket.
mayken4now
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Well I am a "Hot Dude" here, and with TONS of attitude, nose in the air and all that. AND most of all I LOVE IT!
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But I will share!
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Come on guys
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But I will share!
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Come on guys
Kewl Robert
Thanks for sharing!
I never thought I'd live to see the day on Prime Time television!
Thanks for sharing!
I never thought I'd live to see the day on Prime Time television!
So, Lee, how do you deal with our "preferences". How do you see one is supposed to deal with their "preferences". Most guys want their "opposite" (and I could name guys on here) rather than someone that looks like them and that puts me in the minority, I want someone who looks like me or even more of me (furry, weight, but not grizzly). I've given up.
