Hi Everyone

[glenfieldmathk1]

None of the Siemens Machines have sealed tubs here in the UK, and as far as I am aware, Boschs don't either, and the Bosch Maxx 5 or Bosch Classixx 5 or simple Bosch 5.5KG machines also don't have sealed tubs, they are just made in cheaper labour countries - China (which is where BSH make Balay!), which probably explains louder motor, smaller capacity, and strange door, drum - as also in the Exxcel washer-dryer, and WFB model.
Balay are made by BSH - who own Bosch, which to me shows why they are similar.
Balay is a cheaper version, and only available in certain countries, if not just 1.

Hello Lordy Lord, good collection you have had over your lifetime
Good luck with the refurbished Miele!

 

[lavamat_jon]

Welcome to the club from another fellow AEG nut!  I have several AEGs in my collection... my favourite being the Lavamat 620!

 

Jon

 

[lordylord]

Nice Pic! I'll get some photos of the AEG when i get it at the weekend. Jon i notice that you have a Creda Supaspeed? Our next door neighbours had the 1200 spin model when i was a kid. I loved it! When we used to look after their house when they were on holidays i used to go and do a load or two haha. When i look back, surely these Creda machines where similar to the WM63 hotpoint that my grandma had. I think it was the fact that the WM63 used to take half an hour to balance then shake all over the room. I always thought the creda machines where more like a classic hotpoint.

 

[lordylord]

Another Machine I Loved as a Kid

My best friends Mum had a Whirlpool AWG372. Purchased in 1997. I LOVED THIS MACHINE! It was great! The rinse water levels were the highest I've ever seen. On a standard cotton programme it would get to number 5 (40 degree cottons) then one click into the cool down and it would fill and fill and fill and fill and fill and fill until the water was half way up the glass. It used to distribute with alot of water in the drum too. It went wrong all the time and was replaced by a Creda W120FW in 2002. Oddly though their Cleaner had the same Whirlpool machine and she said hers never went wrong.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Welcome John!

Loved your phraseology, "it was rubbish so we only kept it about a year."

I have a Creda Supa Speed 1000 Eco Wash made for export to this country. We found it thrown away behind an appliance store sometime in the late 1990s because it needed new motor brushes. I keep replacing them every few years and it keeps working. I actually like it better for my shirts than the two Mieles, but I don't tell them. They are busy washing other stuff on Sundays when I wash the shirts.

 

[aquacycle]

Whirlpool Aqualine...

Those Whirlpool washers were EVERYWHERE when I was a kid. I knew of at least 5 people on our estate that had them and a few school friends had them too. Radio Rentals used to carry them exclusively, which is possibly one reason they were so popular. I seem to recall them being fairly reliable machines, although I'm not sure what the performance was like. They still crop up on ebay frequently.

 

[lordylord]

I didn't know Creda imported to the US Tom. Thats pretty cool! I loved our neighbours supaspeed i was desperate for one. You still see some decent examples coming up on Ebay now and again. Next time i see one i might get it. Storage is the biggest problem though. I might be acquiring a Creda W100FW. I have a property management company and we've just been given three houses to clear and renovate. One of them has a poorly looking Hoover with a round door. Late 90's after the softwave models. One has a whirlpool from the early 2000's nothing like the aqualine and the last house has a knackered servis and a creda W100FW which is pristine. The house's have been vacant since 2005 so i'm guessing the creda is around 2002/2003 so it might have a decent bit of life left in it.

From what i can remember Chris the Whirlpool washed very well. It was very flexible as it had variable temperature. WHY DON'T BASIC MODERN MACHINES HAVE VARIABLE TEMP!!?? Annoying! My Mum used to stick the AEG on 80 instead of 95 i have no idea why haha...

 

[lordylord]

Whirlpool Aqualine...

Chris

When i think back.. The whirlpool probably only went wrong once or twice but at that age i wasn't accustomed to washing machine going wrong at all. Our AEG never put a foot wrong in 8 years so the concept of having to involve repair men seemed alien ;-) happy days....

 

[aquacycle]

We got an Electra branded Creda in 1993 that had so many repairs in it's short 2 years, so by the time I was 5 I was used to the washer man coming. The door lock was forever breaking, the brushes went, the belt snapped, the timer broke and I remember at one point, it had the whole outer tub replaced. Nightmare

 

[lordylord]

Do you not just think its down to the individual appliance. I still hear of people swearing by certain brands that i wouldn't ever consider. A friend of mine swears by Indesit washing machines. Surely they've always been crap? She however had one for 12 years and it was faultless it only had to be discarded as she had a house fire . She replaced it with a newer one and that lasted 6 years, not bad for a machine that was only £190. I used it a few times it was awful hahaha.

 

[henrypeter21]

I remember the hotpoint wm62 we had until about 2005. The creda machines from 1999 - 2004 were a rebranded version of the hotpoint wm series. Indesit own hotpoint, creda, and ariston. Whenever you get a second hand machine, you must always run an empty boilwash with a limescale and detergant remover to kill the germs - you never know whats been washed in there, previous owners could have been silly enough to have washed their fish pond filters inside. The last thing you want is that bacteria on your clothes, believe me.

 

[aquacycle]

Well, the problem with our Electra was simple.

Creda were made up of Hotpoints rejected parts and Electra were made with Creda's rejected parts, so it was essentially just a waste machine lol. It got replaced with a Zanussi FJ1295 that lasted 11 years in a family of 6.

Incidentally, I wouldn't touch Indesit with a barge pole.

 

[lordylord]

Nannys Washing Machine

Look what i've just found on Ebay. This exactly like my grandmas..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOSCH-WFB...ines_Dryers&hash=item19ce5cef95#ht_500wt_1361

 

[lordylord]

Creda

I'm tempted by this washer too!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300675484...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648#ht_500wt_1361

 

[tomturbomatic]

Chris, your pedigree of the Creda and Electra machines is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.

John, I like that I can select the wash temp independent of the cycle on my Creda. I understand that having a separate dial for wash temps was a feature of the export model. I like the "normal" A,B,C cycle because of the 4 rinses with spins in between the rinses so I wash my no iron shirts on that cycle with slow spin and 115F wash temp. It gives a deep rinse after the wash with no spin between the wash and the first rinse so things are cooled before the first spin. The lightness of the construction is pretty amazing when compared to a Miele. When the Creda spins, its front undulates like a bellydancer's abdomen. Is it peculiar to this brand that while in the heating periods of the wash cycle they barely turn the load over in the short, slow tumble portions? The Mieles don't have dedicated heating periods in the wash portion of the cycle. I wondered if that was why the Creda could use a lower amp draw than the Mieles since the motor does not run when the heater is on.[this post was last edited: 3/9/2012-22:27]

 

[aquarius8000]

Hello! I like whirlpool, AEG and Hotpoint. I have a few machines in my shed and vids of them up on YouTube. I have taken appart a whirlpool AWG338 wich was fun. I do hope that you can get the machines above and scource your childhood machines!

 

[paulc]

Tomturbomatic

It was not uncommon for UK F/L's in the 70's and 80's to static heat to 40deg C, then the drum would start to tumble. In the case of Indesit machines of the 70's they did not even tumble whilst the machine filled. The machine would fill, heat the water to 40deg with the drum stationary, once the water reached 40 deg the drum would tumble but of course only half the load was saturated, this added a lot of time onto the cycle, especially in the cold fill only models as when the rest of the load absorbed water the machine would stop tumbling, fill and heat to 40 deg again, if it was a particularly absorbent load ( ie towels) this could happen two or three times before the wash portion of the cycle could start. I wonder if your theory about amp drawing was the reason for this or just badly designed programming.

All I know was it was irritating to watch to say the least. On my aunts Indesit L5 I used to turn the temp dial to cold, let the machine fill, then tumble and fill until the load was completely saturated and the water was at the correct level then turn the dial to the required temperature and let the machine heat. This saved quite a bit of time.

 

[tomturbomatic]

WOW! I am glad my Creda does not do that. It fills, tumbles once the water level switch is satisfied then stops if it has to add more water, etc like the Mieles. After a timer increment of full washing action, it goes into a heating mode. In this timer increment, it heats for long periods then will do maybe one drum revolution at a crawling speed to just turnover the load, maybe to prevent things from getting exposed to too much heat too early, then it returns to heating mode. It does these heating periods after each of the starting points A, B or C. It heats in stages: X degrees in the heating period after A, X degrees in the heating period after B and X degrees in the heating period after C. Fortunately mine has hot and cold fill valves so I am not heating from cold to super hot.

I guess the other thing you could do to trick a machine like your aunt's and avoid the static heating to 40C is start it at the first rinse then, once everything is saturated, restart it in the desired wash cycle. You do have to wonder what the people who design the machines are using for brains. I certainly felt that way about the 21 & 22 series KitchenAid dishwashers that filled, heated the water then sprayed it on the cold load.