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Do you not just think its down to the individual appliance. I still hear of people swearing by certain brands that i wouldn't ever consider. A friend of mine swears by Indesit washing machines. Surely they've always been crap? She however had one for 12 years and it was faultless it only had to be discarded as she had a house fire . She replaced it with a newer one and that lasted 6 years, not bad for a machine that was only £190. I used it a few times it was awful hahaha.
 
I remember the hotpoint wm62 we had until about 2005. The creda machines from 1999 - 2004 were a rebranded version of the hotpoint wm series. Indesit own hotpoint, creda, and ariston. Whenever you get a second hand machine, you must always run an empty boilwash with a limescale and detergant remover to kill the germs - you never know whats been washed in there, previous owners could have been silly enough to have washed their fish pond filters inside. The last thing you want is that bacteria on your clothes, believe me.
 
Well, the problem with our Electra was simple.

Creda were made up of Hotpoints rejected parts and Electra were made with Creda's rejected parts, so it was essentially just a waste machine lol. It got replaced with a Zanussi FJ1295 that lasted 11 years in a family of 6.

Incidentally, I wouldn't touch Indesit with a barge pole.
 
Chris, your pedigree of the Creda and Electra machines is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.

John, I like that I can select the wash temp independent of the cycle on my Creda. I understand that having a separate dial for wash temps was a feature of the export model. I like the "normal" A,B,C cycle because of the 4 rinses with spins in between the rinses so I wash my no iron shirts on that cycle with slow spin and 115F wash temp. It gives a deep rinse after the wash with no spin between the wash and the first rinse so things are cooled before the first spin. The lightness of the construction is pretty amazing when compared to a Miele. When the Creda spins, its front undulates like a bellydancer's abdomen. Is it peculiar to this brand that while in the heating periods of the wash cycle they barely turn the load over in the short, slow tumble portions? The Mieles don't have dedicated heating periods in the wash portion of the cycle. I wondered if that was why the Creda could use a lower amp draw than the Mieles since the motor does not run when the heater is on.[this post was last edited: 3/9/2012-22:27]
 
Hello! I like whirlpool, AEG and Hotpoint. I have a few machines in my shed and vids of them up on YouTube. I have taken appart a whirlpool AWG338 wich was fun. I do hope that you can get the machines above and scource your childhood machines!
 
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It was not uncommon for UK F/L's in the 70's and 80's to static heat to 40deg C, then the drum would start to tumble. In the case of Indesit machines of the 70's they did not even tumble whilst the machine filled. The machine would fill, heat the water to 40deg with the drum stationary, once the water reached 40 deg the drum would tumble but of course only half the load was saturated, this added a lot of time onto the cycle, especially in the cold fill only models as when the rest of the load absorbed water the machine would stop tumbling, fill and heat to 40 deg again, if it was a particularly absorbent load ( ie towels) this could happen two or three times before the wash portion of the cycle could start. I wonder if your theory about amp drawing was the reason for this or just badly designed programming.

All I know was it was irritating to watch to say the least. On my aunts Indesit L5 I used to turn the temp dial to cold, let the machine fill, then tumble and fill until the load was completely saturated and the water was at the correct level then turn the dial to the required temperature and let the machine heat. This saved quite a bit of time.
 
WOW! I am glad my Creda does not do that. It fills, tumbles once the water level switch is satisfied then stops if it has to add more water, etc like the Mieles. After a timer increment of full washing action, it goes into a heating mode. In this timer increment, it heats for long periods then will do maybe one drum revolution at a crawling speed to just turnover the load, maybe to prevent things from getting exposed to too much heat too early, then it returns to heating mode. It does these heating periods after each of the starting points A, B or C. It heats in stages: X degrees in the heating period after A, X degrees in the heating period after B and X degrees in the heating period after C. Fortunately mine has hot and cold fill valves so I am not heating from cold to super hot.

I guess the other thing you could do to trick a machine like your aunt's and avoid the static heating to 40C is start it at the first rinse then, once everything is saturated, restart it in the desired wash cycle. You do have to wonder what the people who design the machines are using for brains. I certainly felt that way about the 21 & 22 series KitchenAid dishwashers that filled, heated the water then sprayed it on the cold load.
 

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