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We had oil heat from the time we moved into the house in '57, until mid '74. At that time oil had become expensive, so the old Weil-McLain boiler from '52 was removed, and a new Weil-McLain electric boiler was installed. The oil tank was removed from the basement at this time. This made much more space in the furnace room, as the new boiler hung on the wall, and was only about 2.5' x 2.5' x 10". It was also quieter, as the only moving part was the circulator pump (B&G). A new electric service (150A) was also installed just for it, in addition to the existing 200A service for everything else. The first really cold night it caused a power outage, blacking out our house and 4 others. The next day the utility co. came and installed a new transformer on the pole just for our house. This boiler was in use until I removed the entire heating system a while back for the renovation.

As for oil tanks burried outside, my dad's uncle's house had a large one in the back yard. It was put in when the house was built in '36, and used until sometime in the 70's, when the had gas heat installed. I think the old tank was pumped out, then filled with sand or gravel. Never heard anything about it rusting or leaking; maybe it was fabricated from stainless steel or Monel.

I have a friend that's on the Fire Dept., and a few years ago he told me about a call they responded to, due to a basement oil tank overflow. The oil co. came to fill it, and something malfunctioned, which caused several hundred gallons of oil to run out onto the basement floor. According to him, a company had to be called in to remove the oil. Part of the basment was finished, and most of the furniture was ruined, as the oil soaked into anything that wasn't metal. He said the people told him it cost over $40,000 for cleaning and repairs, as it had soaked into the concrete slab, which had to be taken out and a new one poured. They had to move out for over a month, as the whole house smelled of oil.
 
Devil's Advocate

I wonder if the servicer considers any possibility of legal recourse if one of these older machines has a catastrophic failure and he/she was the last to service it...

Malcolm
 
My parents went through this:

When they built their house in 1983 they put in a Lennox Conservator-G11E furnace. Sure it used some gas but was quiet and reliable. Only 1 repair in 20 years. Fast forward to 2003 when it was found that the exchanger had cracked and we needed a new furnace.
Here is where the nightmare begins. A Carrier 8000 furnace was put in to replace it. WHAT A PILE OF SHIT! The silly thing was loud as hell and was full of poorly made PCBs and sensors that would go for a Fruit Loop and shut the pile of scrap metal down for no reason. Or so I thought. When the service guy was there for his 4th visit in the first year, I was down the basement with him and noticed that only one side of the blower assembly was on it's mounting track. Yeah, it came from the factory that way. Braindead installer didn't see it either.

After the blower was properly mounted and the bad sensors replaced the stupid thing works to this day but is still very loud and not that efficient for a furnace of it's time.
WK78
 
The house I grew up in had it's original 1926 Thatcher coal burning steam boiler which was converted to oil in the late 1930s with a Timken rotary oil burner. It ran quietly and caused very little trouble.

In the early 1980s the oil company convinced my dad to upgrade it to a modern boiler. The new boiler/burner was noisy, used the same amount of oil as the old one, required constant service, and cracked in 8 years.

Ken D.
 
If I was lucky enough!

To have a Timken burner, I would guard it with my life, the new breed of furnace men have no clue just how good that thing really was!
 
original 1926 Thatcher

My moms house has a Thatcher oil fired furnace with domestic hot water coil, about 1964 vintage.

I upgraded it with a Becket AFG high speed burner and Tiger Loop five years ago and has been problem free since, aside from a new igniter which was a simple and cheap repair.

Before that the stack relay or the burner itself were often troublesome mostly just due to age. However, the service guys would show up for repairs/tune ups, fix whatever necessary at the time and hit her with the bills, never bothering to mention that the whole burner and relay assembly could be modernized at a very reasonable cost.
 

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