Hoover keymatic 3224 / 3226 door seal question

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Hi there, new here so please forgive me if I’ve posted this in the wrong place.

I have recently acquired a Hoover Keymatic 3224 but the door seal is absolutely rotten.
I realise this is totally unlikely but was wondering if anyone might have a hunch as to where I may get one or if anyone has one knocking around, I’m happy to pay top dollar for it.

I believe it’s the same between the 2 models bar the colour being different?

Would appreciate any advice!

Many thanks
Cam
 
Hoover Keymatic 3224

Afternoon Cameron, welcome to the club you are in the right place and congratulations on finding a Hoover 3224 Keymatic, if you haven't picked it up yet it's best to transport upright or even better with transit brackets in. The tub support wire is very thin and snaps easily if tilted back, dropping the drum so breaking hoses n smashing any bakelite parts it hits...now how do I know that lol...
Let us know how you get on and it's serial number , it's a fab over complicated piece of history, Hoover UK first automatic washing machine !!

The gaskets are like hen's teeth but you never know !! The rubber, particularly the thin inner bit perishes to mush, we are talking with s possible manufacturer as to a production run, but initial costings are mega bucks even with as many owners out there buying s couple each...will keep you posted.

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Hoover Keymatic 3224

Just renovated a couple more this year with the help of the gang, currently investigating a timer issue with mine but a solution in hand !!

Welcome to The Keymatic Club, link to 70th Hoover Celebrations !!


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Hi there,

Thanks so much for your message!

Some beautiful machines you have there!

I’m collecting the 3224 in a few weeks and probably would’ve laid it on its side had you not informed me it will probably damage it, so I really appreciate that!

I’m don’t suppose you have a pic to hand of the tub support wire so I know what I’m looking out for? This will be my first experience with a pre 1980’s hoover so it’s all new to me!

I can’t wait to finally have it with me and see just how much hoover has gone down hill compared to their original machine.. don’t judge me but I have the dreaded AXI as my main machine and constantly regret it!

As for the door boot, if they do ever get manufactured I’d happily pay double figures to get the beast back to water tight.

Thanks again.
Cam
 
Hi Mike

Thanks for all those diagrams, interesting to see just how over engineered these make monsters really are! Will certainly help on my quest to get her back up and
Running again!

As for the key plate it does have that red one you show in the photo, just seemed like more existed, going off what I’ve seen on the internet, I guess that’s for later models? I’m rather inexperienced as you
Probably can tell.

On the subject of the door seals I don’t suppose you happen to know the dimensions? Going to look into having something made I think.

Thanks for all your help and advice, I really appreciate it!

Kind regards
Cameron
 
key plates

Here in Australia at least there were 3 plates over time -
black plate for connection to cold fill only
red plate for connection to hot and cold taps

Later ones were all black with a white centre, the colour of the text (black or red) indicated if it was cold fill or hot/cold fill.
I believe at the end of Aussie production there was also a green text plate which was for all cold washes - cold fills and no heating. (though I have never seen one myself.)

I'd love to hear if there were any others.
 
Hi Chris,

I do have a cold fill cold wash keyplate with the green sticker. I’ll have to find it and take a photo.

I have a brand new boot as well and the original whilst aged is still all intact, I offered the used boot for free ages ago in return for help trying to rebuild the sump hose and got no takers.

Regards

Nathan
 
Keymatic Boots...

Evening Nathan, was very surprised to hear you write that as there are a few collectors here desperate for boots, Mathew (keymatic3203) has a few machines and no boots and desperate to find one, albeit Turquoise ones that are dripping on the floor like mine...

Just searched on your post and can see it was 2016 and yes, absolutely no replies, this must have fallen off pretty quick for no one to have seen or replied, apologies for that !!

We are finding ways of cobbling together alt sump pipes, nearest we have is a Merloni servis sump hose that has a thin pipe formed in it for the pressure pot, which is the most difficult part I think...


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Thankyou for that link Mike, I'll have a look and see if they'll ship internationally. I assume you mount the sump mount to the tub and then let it hang and use the flexible connection to eventually get to the pump, or have you been fitting it the other way around?

The big challenge I've had is that I keep getting air trapped in the tube to the pressure pot and get overfills. The last time I fired it up, it filled right up to the edge of the door.

Cameron, I'll keep your request in mind, I'll need to confirm I can get it off intact before I make any promises.
 
Thanks Nathan, there’s so many kind and helpful people on here. I really didn’t expect much response.

I’m fascinated with the diagrams Mike has sent me, I can’t help but keep looking at them and just how over top Hoover went with the original Keymatics, bet they was a nightmare for the engineers!

Thank you everyone for advising me on different things!

Regatds
Cam 🙂
 
making up a sump hose

Hi Nathan

I'd be happy to have a go at making up a sump hose if you would like. I wasn't aware you even had a keymatic, though I shouldn't be surprised...

I reckon the key to it is that it doesn't all have to be flexible rubber. You need a flexi hose from the tub to the cross part, but the rest could be made of rigid PVC pipe which is cheap, available and easy to work with. I have had a design of sorts in the back of my mind for years but never got around to trying it. I'd have to give more thought on how to link in the rubber tube to the pressure switches.

for the flexi section, the UK Hotpoints made in the 1980s and 1990s have a good hose. They are basically a T shaped hose, they have a plastic catch pot at the bottom which you would discard for the Keymatic. You would use it "wrong way round" ie: connect the Hotpoint hose outlet to the tub (where it becomes the inlet), the flexi part leads to the Tee, connect one side to a short bit of PVC to a blank, the other side you have a short length of PVC to a tee, one part goes up to the open tube (where the water inlets feed in) the other goes to the pump via another flexi hose - maybe a Hoover Zodiac hose? The tube to the pressure pot would have to be extended and connect to the the blank end of PVC with some sort of adapter...
I will maybe have a go at lining the parts up together against my (broken remains) Keymatic hose and take a photo so you get a better idea.

The UK Hotpoint was available here badged as a GE so parts are available here. (but probably overpriced.)I think I have 2 of the hose I am raving on about, I only want one so if I can find a second one it is yours. It will be in good used condition.

Are you sure it is over filling? They do fill very high compared to modern front loaders. Almost to the door. There are two pressure switches but they always fill to the high setting. The low pressure switch controls the heater coming on, and is used to prevent it trying to spin before having fully pumped out - the low pressure switch only resets when the tub is pretty much empty, and it won't spin till that pressure switch has reset.
I made a Frankenstein Keymatic years ago, all the electrics were replaced and it used 12 volt components to make a 12 volt Keymatic that worked on our basic solar power system at the time. I didn't like the high fill as the load floats too much and the wash action was too gentle, I changed it to use the low pressure switch for the water level and adjusted it to have a much more "normal" water level, it worked much better.
A standard 240v Keymatic needs a very high water level for the pulsator action. (Water level has to be high to reach the pulsator.) Otherwise the wet clothes just slide past the spinning pulsator and it has little or no effect.

I disposed of my Keymatics before I found this website and the AW community, to my eternal shame... I kept some components and have since scrounged another Keymatic, unfortunately missing its motor. I have a good door boot and a good rubber "trombone" hose (the complicated one). I have little hope these days of sourcing an original motor so I may in future try to make up another low voltage Keymatic, this time maybe try to utilize the original keyplate as a control??? Maybe 24 volt this time as we have 24 volt battery bank these days.

the drum bearings on mine are stiff and they are thinner than normal bearings, probably unobtainable. I tried years ago and bearing shops had no matches.
 
Hi all

Wondered if anyone might have for sale or know if a source for the motor to drum belt?

Would really appreciate any help.

Thanks
Cam
 

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