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Very interesting. Much akin to F&P with the wide stroke and lazy basket.
You are so right, Glenn. I would have guessed it was a Fisher & Paykel washer. Looks, sounds and behaves like one, that's for sure.
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These are Hoover's that were made after the Email company had bought them out and closed down Hoovers factory in Meadowbank, Sydney. THe machines were made in the Simpson factory in Adelaide. So these machines wash the same way as the Simpson and Westinghouse washing machines. Indeed the Westinghouse even has the Hoover agitator.
These are good machines that really move the clothes aroundt with out beating them up to much. Dont really get "rollover" like you do on the American machines but still good thorough washing.
Now if anyone has a video of a Meadowbank made Hoover that is washing drama if ever there was! The stroke is about 2 and a half complete revolutions before it backstrokes. As you can imagine it creates quite a splash!
Thanks for putting these videos up.
These are good machines that really move the clothes aroundt with out beating them up to much. Dont really get "rollover" like you do on the American machines but still good thorough washing.
Now if anyone has a video of a Meadowbank made Hoover that is washing drama if ever there was! The stroke is about 2 and a half complete revolutions before it backstrokes. As you can imagine it creates quite a splash!
Thanks for putting these videos up.
hooverzodiac12
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no acctually it doesnt like being gentle on clothes. thats why i dont like using it much. i only use it because all of my other washers have died lol.
it spins out of balance alot ill put a vi of it spining out of balance soon
it spins out of balance alot ill put a vi of it spining out of balance soon
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Thank you for all videos.
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Rather interesting and love the long stroke-sounds VERY powerful!Almost like you could throw rocks into that washer and it would crush them!What sort of transmission does the machine have?
Me likey.
Thank you for posting the videos.
Thank you for posting the videos.
re the transmission
The transmission is a simple epicyclic gear set - like a giant version of the reduction gears used in cordless drills. The gears are all nylon. it uses a 7 to 1 ratio - the agitator rotates at 1/7th of the spin speed. The motor stops and reverses for each stroke. The spin is actuated by releasing the spin brake, operated by a solenoid inderneath.
Chris.
The transmission is a simple epicyclic gear set - like a giant version of the reduction gears used in cordless drills. The gears are all nylon. it uses a 7 to 1 ratio - the agitator rotates at 1/7th of the spin speed. The motor stops and reverses for each stroke. The spin is actuated by releasing the spin brake, operated by a solenoid inderneath.
Chris.
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i have no idea about the transmission. all i know is its a hoover and its really harsh on clothes. lol
it always puts clothes into a ball and then spins. about 2 months ago it was out of balance and instead of stopping after a couple of bangs it actually pounded the balance leaver out so now it smashes across my floor like every time i use it
it always puts clothes into a ball and then spins. about 2 months ago it was out of balance and instead of stopping after a couple of bangs it actually pounded the balance leaver out so now it smashes across my floor like every time i use it
Reversing the motor for each stroke-that is interesting-would think it would be hard on the motor.
It's a simple kind of motor - there is no start winding, no start switch. IIRC Tolivac you are pretty technical so you would understand better than me, it is effectively a two-phase motor, fed from a single phase supply. There are two identical windings in the motor, one gets its power direct, the other via a capacitor (condenser in US english?). The capacitor creates a lag, so that the two "phases" are 90 degrees apart. (??) To reverse the motor, the timer just swaps which winding is connected direct to the mains and which is fed via the capacitor. It is not very efficient and the motor has low torque but it is very cheap and very reliable.
The timer has a reversing section which has a very short increment - maybe 1/2 a second. It switches the motor about 3 increments clockwise, 1 increment pause, three increments anti-clockwise, 1 increment pause, three increments clockwise, 1 increment pause, and so on for the duration of the wash.
For a delicate wash, it would do 1 increment clockwise, 3 increments pause, 1 increment anticlockwise, 3 increments pause, and so on.
There is a simple spring clutch between the pulley and the transmision, operated by the brake lever. When the brake solenoid is RELEASED, the brake lever is held in by a strong spring to hold the brake band (which holds the basket steady during agitation), and to hold the clutch released, so that the pulley turns the transmission input shaft but not the transmission casing (and thus the drum).
When the brake solenoid is ACTUATED, it pulls the brake lever away from the brake band, releasing the trans and basket to spin, and allows the spring clutch to grip the trans shaft to the trans casing, so that the whole trans and basket turn with the pulley - SPIN.
The pump is a separate electric pump.
All this is very similar to Japanese machines such as Sanyo and Hitachi - the Hoover Premier was the first of the Hoovers to use this type of transmission, and it was basically a copy of Hitachi.
Chris
The timer has a reversing section which has a very short increment - maybe 1/2 a second. It switches the motor about 3 increments clockwise, 1 increment pause, three increments anti-clockwise, 1 increment pause, three increments clockwise, 1 increment pause, and so on for the duration of the wash.
For a delicate wash, it would do 1 increment clockwise, 3 increments pause, 1 increment anticlockwise, 3 increments pause, and so on.
There is a simple spring clutch between the pulley and the transmision, operated by the brake lever. When the brake solenoid is RELEASED, the brake lever is held in by a strong spring to hold the brake band (which holds the basket steady during agitation), and to hold the clutch released, so that the pulley turns the transmission input shaft but not the transmission casing (and thus the drum).
When the brake solenoid is ACTUATED, it pulls the brake lever away from the brake band, releasing the trans and basket to spin, and allows the spring clutch to grip the trans shaft to the trans casing, so that the whole trans and basket turn with the pulley - SPIN.
The pump is a separate electric pump.
All this is very similar to Japanese machines such as Sanyo and Hitachi - the Hoover Premier was the first of the Hoovers to use this type of transmission, and it was basically a copy of Hitachi.
Chris
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hooverzodiac12- out of balance problem with premier
The out of balance problem you describe is often caused by a faulty timer. The motor timing cam, called the sub interval cam, (described above by Chris) is faulty such that the motor only turns the agitator in one direction during wash. The clothes then bunch up badly and wrap around the agitator. When the machine goes into spin it is badly out of balance and sometimes the agitator shaft can be bent by the clothes wrapped around the agitator. Different models had different lid switch mechanisms, what is the model number of your machine? You will have to bypass the mechanism to observe the wash action, the machine will not wash with the lid open for safety reasons.
The out of balance problem you describe is often caused by a faulty timer. The motor timing cam, called the sub interval cam, (described above by Chris) is faulty such that the motor only turns the agitator in one direction during wash. The clothes then bunch up badly and wrap around the agitator. When the machine goes into spin it is badly out of balance and sometimes the agitator shaft can be bent by the clothes wrapped around the agitator. Different models had different lid switch mechanisms, what is the model number of your machine? You will have to bypass the mechanism to observe the wash action, the machine will not wash with the lid open for safety reasons.
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