optima
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I think this Aqualtis model is going to be advertised on the tv starting next week.
Hotpoint AQ114F49DE Direct Injection Aqualtis
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optima
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Is this a first for Hotpoint a recirculation pump, not sure how effective it will be.
Is this a first for Hotpoint a recirculation pump, not sure how effective it will be.
optima
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aegokocarat
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The idea looks very simular to the samsung eco bubble.
Tom
Tom
optima
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Yes Tom & also Candy Grando Evo
Yes Tom & also Candy Grando Evo
haxisfan
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Has it got jets or does it circulate the solution by stealth
Really curious to see how they work... I wonder whether they're going to circulate the wash water continuously like an Electrolux jet system or just in crucial moments of the wash process like in the Hoover 8-Pulse. They're also recycling the idea of washing at 20 degrees with the results of 40 already speculated by Hoover/Candy.
As I said in a different thread, I've been trying this cycle for a little while and it really delivers, however I still think this option should be used wisely.
Really curious to see how they work... I wonder whether they're going to circulate the wash water continuously like an Electrolux jet system or just in crucial moments of the wash process like in the Hoover 8-Pulse. They're also recycling the idea of washing at 20 degrees with the results of 40 already speculated by Hoover/Candy.
As I said in a different thread, I've been trying this cycle for a little while and it really delivers, however I still think this option should be used wisely.
optima
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It quite simply recirculates the wash water in the base of the outer drum nothing new about that. I could understand & would have much prefered if the wash water was sprayed over the load from above but it doesn't even do that. A complete rip off but with a fancy Direct Injection name.
It quite simply recirculates the wash water in the base of the outer drum nothing new about that. I could understand & would have much prefered if the wash water was sprayed over the load from above but it doesn't even do that. A complete rip off but with a fancy Direct Injection name.
optima
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& Indesit could have saved a bit more money if they had moved the recirculation hose more towards the end of the sump hose then the detergent save ball wouldn't have been required.
& Indesit could have saved a bit more money if they had moved the recirculation hose more towards the end of the sump hose then the detergent save ball wouldn't have been required.
dave886
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Good luck to who ever buys this machine, im sure it must clean well. hotpoint shoudn't have copied samsung idea of injecting suds into the drum instead they should of brought back the powerstream idea, but increase the drum rotations to 500rpm with 2 recirculation jet at the back of the drum well as front of drum, do you think that would work.
by the way i own a samsung 12kg, i've notice the machine washes better with powder than liquid. the eco bubble is at its best 5mins into the soaking stage, eventually the suds will disappear on a full load, then it comes back again when eco bubble turns on. some people say the eco bubble idea is a pointless rip off, i disagree it does foam like crazy with the right detergent, such as daz or ariel, persil, is a no no for me.
by the way i own a samsung 12kg, i've notice the machine washes better with powder than liquid. the eco bubble is at its best 5mins into the soaking stage, eventually the suds will disappear on a full load, then it comes back again when eco bubble turns on. some people say the eco bubble idea is a pointless rip off, i disagree it does foam like crazy with the right detergent, such as daz or ariel, persil, is a no no for me.
l86810
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I didn't notice but...
It seems there's been a video for this on youtube since August last year ??!!
It seems there's been a video for this on youtube since August last year ??!!
@dave886: The idea is good, but with a jet at the back of the drum you'll get problems. Like were to place it and how to connect it without a sealing-problem? Having 2 sprays at the font with different arming-areas in the drum would be a better idea.
And i think, the pump will be on through the whole cycle to flush the heater. Like removing the heated water and eychange it with the cooler water for a better heating efficency.
And i think, the pump will be on through the whole cycle to flush the heater. Like removing the heated water and eychange it with the cooler water for a better heating efficency.
glenfieldmathk1
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Yes that's right I86810 they have had the same model available in czech republic since October 2012, and its also been available, in France, alongside a LCD display model at A+++-20% on the energy scale.
I think they were trying the product out in those countries, before launching it worldwide I guess.
I think this will sell thanks to its A+++-10% on the energy scale.
It works exactly the same as a Samsung Eco Bubble, Eco bubble doesn't spray the load it just pumps it in the bottom. its called direct injection meaning foam injection into the tub, not 8pulse technology like in Hoover /Panasonic etc!!
I think they were trying the product out in those countries, before launching it worldwide I guess.
I think this will sell thanks to its A+++-10% on the energy scale.
It works exactly the same as a Samsung Eco Bubble, Eco bubble doesn't spray the load it just pumps it in the bottom. its called direct injection meaning foam injection into the tub, not 8pulse technology like in Hoover /Panasonic etc!!
dj-gabriele
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removing the heated water and eychange it with the cooler wa
A resistive heater isn't a heat pump, its efficiency will stay the same regardless of the sounding medium temperature, plus the drum movement will make enough turbulence for tater movement!
A resistive heater isn't a heat pump, its efficiency will stay the same regardless of the sounding medium temperature, plus the drum movement will make enough turbulence for tater movement!
I know that it is not a heat pump of course, but with the heated waterlayer around the heater it will not trasport the heat to all the cold water. Like a blanked around your body. And espacily with the low water temperatures and amounts every amount of water needs the setten temperatures and a good mix with the othe water.
Ha Ha, Could not have said it better my self Optima, "A complete rip off but with a fancy Direct Injection name".
So the water gets circulated from the heater back through the sump, about 6 inches!, another gimmick to sell to the uneducated masses.
So the water gets circulated from the heater back through the sump, about 6 inches!, another gimmick to sell to the uneducated masses.
optima
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I think this picture says it all for a top spec Hotpoint machine lol
I think this picture says it all for a top spec Hotpoint machine lol
frontloaderfan
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What a complete waste of materials and engineering! As P.T. Barnum once said, "there's a sucker born every minute".
aeg03
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The pics above remind me a little of the underside of my 2012 Zanussi Jetsystem ZWH7122J. The tub assembly in the Hotpoint doesn't look as substantial and the tub is sealed too unlike the Zanussi.
I like the look of the Hotpoint machine though. The Injection system looks interesting but just a shame they didn't move the jet up to the water is showered over the top.
I like the look of the Hotpoint machine though. The Injection system looks interesting but just a shame they didn't move the jet up to the water is showered over the top.
aeg03
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One of my relatives bought a Samsung Eco Bubble 12kg to replace a Bosch and really I wouldn't recommend it, especially if you're installing it on a wooden floor.
The machine shakes so violently that the drawer opens, especially if it's lightly loaded. It's nothing to do with bolts or installation norms. It's just really bouncy despite the 'VRT+ technology'.
This now means that they have to use a piece of tape to keep the drawer closed LOL
Their previous Bosch machine was nice and stable.
The washing and rinsing results are also relatively poor compared to the Bosch it replaced. It uses very little water and the Eco-Bubble function doesn't really create very many bubbles with most detergents other than maybe Woolite.
To keep the drawer closed, they've resorted to a novel system involving a large band of elastic. They basically used the elastic that you can buy for dressmaking and sewed it so that there's a washing machine sized band. Otherwise, the machine's drawer shakes open and it fills water onto the floor!
The one thing that it does that is quite useful is a slow speed spin a few minutes into the wash which completely saturates the clothes in soapy water. However, the rest of its features are a bit 'meh'.
I think it's a bit of a marketing gimmick to be perfectly honest.
All in all, I think you're better off sticking to proven technologies.
I think the EcoBubble will be going to the recycling centre if anything serious goes wrong with it. I don't think they're all that keen on keeping it.
The machine shakes so violently that the drawer opens, especially if it's lightly loaded. It's nothing to do with bolts or installation norms. It's just really bouncy despite the 'VRT+ technology'.
This now means that they have to use a piece of tape to keep the drawer closed LOL
Their previous Bosch machine was nice and stable.
The washing and rinsing results are also relatively poor compared to the Bosch it replaced. It uses very little water and the Eco-Bubble function doesn't really create very many bubbles with most detergents other than maybe Woolite.
To keep the drawer closed, they've resorted to a novel system involving a large band of elastic. They basically used the elastic that you can buy for dressmaking and sewed it so that there's a washing machine sized band. Otherwise, the machine's drawer shakes open and it fills water onto the floor!
The one thing that it does that is quite useful is a slow speed spin a few minutes into the wash which completely saturates the clothes in soapy water. However, the rest of its features are a bit 'meh'.
I think it's a bit of a marketing gimmick to be perfectly honest.
All in all, I think you're better off sticking to proven technologies.
I think the EcoBubble will be going to the recycling centre if anything serious goes wrong with it. I don't think they're all that keen on keeping it.
