If he is going to wear padded bras, he should learn how to wash them properly.
Hotpoint Aqualtis And The Bra Padding
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robliverpool
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What a great find Gary. Same thing happened to me in 2006 I got a Hoptoint aquarius 2 year old machine given to me for nothing and was told the bearings had gone as it would not spin etc, got stuck in to do a bearing change and all it was, was a bra wire had stuck between the drum paddle and the elmement, took all of 30 seconds to fix and machine is still going now with no faults. Not in my house tho lol. Me aunt has it and she loves the machine.
What kg is the washer Gary is it 9kg or 10kg
What kg is the washer Gary is it 9kg or 10kg
electron1100
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Bra's Are The Nemesis of Modern Machines
Hello Rob
Yah see modern machines just havent got the build qaulity to take knocks etc from a few bra's
Anyway this one is 7.5kg......
So far it is ok, washes ok, rinses ok, spin balance can take for ever, very quiet motor, noisy pump and water inlets, how manufacturers can claim there machines are quiet i dont know as they all seem to use the same cheap pumps in them, apart from a few top range manufacturers.
Any way the other half likes it so thats ok as well.
Hello Rob
Yah see modern machines just havent got the build qaulity to take knocks etc from a few bra's
Anyway this one is 7.5kg......
So far it is ok, washes ok, rinses ok, spin balance can take for ever, very quiet motor, noisy pump and water inlets, how manufacturers can claim there machines are quiet i dont know as they all seem to use the same cheap pumps in them, apart from a few top range manufacturers.
Any way the other half likes it so thats ok as well.
We have a 8kg 1600 RPM Aqualtis which is now coming up on 3 years old without any issues at all. It still looks like new and gets heavy use.
All-in-all they're an excellent machine.
The build quality's not Miele by any means, but they seem to be very well designed and thought-out.
The most impressive thing about these machines is that they are virtually silent when washing.
The fill, as mentioned above, is a little noisy i.e. you hear a hiss as the machine fills, rather than a flush as you hear on some other types of drawer.
The drain pump's also just a little noisy, but I would wonder sometimes is this just because the machine is so quiet that you REALLY notice the drain pump kicking in.
It uses a very adequate amount of water and produces excellent wash results.
For an Ariston-Hotpoint / Hotpoint they're a pretty impressive machine!
All-in-all they're an excellent machine.
The build quality's not Miele by any means, but they seem to be very well designed and thought-out.
The most impressive thing about these machines is that they are virtually silent when washing.
The fill, as mentioned above, is a little noisy i.e. you hear a hiss as the machine fills, rather than a flush as you hear on some other types of drawer.
The drain pump's also just a little noisy, but I would wonder sometimes is this just because the machine is so quiet that you REALLY notice the drain pump kicking in.
It uses a very adequate amount of water and produces excellent wash results.
For an Ariston-Hotpoint / Hotpoint they're a pretty impressive machine!
Oh yeah, one other thing :
The text-based control panel i.e. with menus has to be one of the best designs I've ever seen on a washing machine. It's extremely intuitive and easy to use and there's a great selection of cycles which are very much geared-up towards real day-to-day needs.
Great Cottons cycles. Very handy bed / bath (Towels/sheets) cycle etc.
The wool wash cycle is also one of the best I've seen. The machine does the whole wash using a distribution spin speed where the clothes are stuck to the side of the drum rather than tumbled through the water. It produces excellent results.
Compared to high-end Bosch machines, the cycles and intuitive setup on this machine is just outstanding.
I have also had to use a Bosch Logixx 8kg and YEIKS it's got some of the worst controls I've seen in a long time.
e.g. it ALWAYS defaults to 60C and 1200 rpm for cottons when I'd prefer 40C and 1600rpm. I've accidentally over-heated quite a few items !
Also, nothing seems to require less than about 20 button presses to setup and if you brush against the machine you can cancel the wash / change the spin speed etc accidentally as they're over-senstive touch buttons.
Hotpoint-Ariston's reputation for quality may be a bit tarnished, but I think the Aqualitis is just a fantastic design overall and they most definitely seem to be working from a user's perspective rather than just presenting.
The text-based control panel i.e. with menus has to be one of the best designs I've ever seen on a washing machine. It's extremely intuitive and easy to use and there's a great selection of cycles which are very much geared-up towards real day-to-day needs.
Great Cottons cycles. Very handy bed / bath (Towels/sheets) cycle etc.
The wool wash cycle is also one of the best I've seen. The machine does the whole wash using a distribution spin speed where the clothes are stuck to the side of the drum rather than tumbled through the water. It produces excellent results.
Compared to high-end Bosch machines, the cycles and intuitive setup on this machine is just outstanding.
I have also had to use a Bosch Logixx 8kg and YEIKS it's got some of the worst controls I've seen in a long time.
e.g. it ALWAYS defaults to 60C and 1200 rpm for cottons when I'd prefer 40C and 1600rpm. I've accidentally over-heated quite a few items !
Also, nothing seems to require less than about 20 button presses to setup and if you brush against the machine you can cancel the wash / change the spin speed etc accidentally as they're over-senstive touch buttons.
Hotpoint-Ariston's reputation for quality may be a bit tarnished, but I think the Aqualitis is just a fantastic design overall and they most definitely seem to be working from a user's perspective rather than just presenting.
robliverpool
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Gary
Yup deffo right about machines not being able to handle anything minor without shutting down.. I thought your hotpoint was at least a 9kg as the drum looks bigger than mine and mines a 9kg but i know what you mean about the noisy pumps and inlets, mine has direct drive (swan-rebadged daewoo) and its really quiet till the pump kicks in and it sounds like its gonna break and mine is a little fussy before spin kicks in can take a good few mins to distribute proppa.
Machine looks like new, i know they can suffer rust by the soap dispensor. btw the hoover economy soap drawer reminds me of the plastic cutlery tray you put in the kitchen drawer lol still, as long as it does the job
Rob
Yup deffo right about machines not being able to handle anything minor without shutting down.. I thought your hotpoint was at least a 9kg as the drum looks bigger than mine and mines a 9kg but i know what you mean about the noisy pumps and inlets, mine has direct drive (swan-rebadged daewoo) and its really quiet till the pump kicks in and it sounds like its gonna break and mine is a little fussy before spin kicks in can take a good few mins to distribute proppa.
Machine looks like new, i know they can suffer rust by the soap dispensor. btw the hoover economy soap drawer reminds me of the plastic cutlery tray you put in the kitchen drawer lol still, as long as it does the job
Rob
chrisbsuk
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Aqualtis
Hi guys,
I recently bought my second aqualtis, it being their top of the range one with touch sensitive controls and a steam function (see separate thread)
The machine itself really was excellent - held 9kg, 1600 rpm speed, reasonable wash times, washed a king size duvet in it, very very quiet - even the pump had been upgraded from my last one as that too was pretty quiet.
I have however, had to make it redundant; the machine was placed on a wooden floor, and it vibrated too much, making the WHOLE flat vibrate, and annoying the people downstairs. It has also caused my flooring in the kitchen to vibrate appart, again picture attached.
I had hotpoint out, who said "yes, it it vibrating but we cant do anything about it -its your floor". The engineer was pretty honest when he said 9KG spinning @ 1600 RPM produces so much force that the floor really needs to be concrete....
This was not good enough, so I wrote to Argos who i bought the machine from and they have replaced the machine, with ANY machine I wanted AND fixed the kitchen floor.
So, I chose a Bosch Excell Intergrated machine. And do you know what? its pretty amazing to be fair; it too is pretty quiet, BUT even if the machine rocks when spinning the floor or the house doesnt. It is a shame its hidden behind a cupboard door, but at least I have a machine that will wash and not ruin my kitchen.
Programme times are great, and spin results are fab - the water fillsfrom a spout above the door - its fun to watch when it spins during the rinses as the water comes on to fill whilst the drum is slowing down; bit like old hoovers/hotpoints.
I use Wash Plus and Aqua Plus on all cycles; water levels half way up the door for rinses and quarter up door during washing.
The Which magazine also voted it their best buy, just slightly under the Miele built in one (trust me if Argos did Miele I would have one!!)
The Aqualtis is at the top of my stairs as Hotpoint have to collect it. its been 3 weeks now and they havent been in touch.......I wont be contacting them!
Pic below shows the huge gaps in my floor caused by the washing machine - the laminate has literally been vibrated appart!!!
Hi guys,
I recently bought my second aqualtis, it being their top of the range one with touch sensitive controls and a steam function (see separate thread)
The machine itself really was excellent - held 9kg, 1600 rpm speed, reasonable wash times, washed a king size duvet in it, very very quiet - even the pump had been upgraded from my last one as that too was pretty quiet.
I have however, had to make it redundant; the machine was placed on a wooden floor, and it vibrated too much, making the WHOLE flat vibrate, and annoying the people downstairs. It has also caused my flooring in the kitchen to vibrate appart, again picture attached.
I had hotpoint out, who said "yes, it it vibrating but we cant do anything about it -its your floor". The engineer was pretty honest when he said 9KG spinning @ 1600 RPM produces so much force that the floor really needs to be concrete....
This was not good enough, so I wrote to Argos who i bought the machine from and they have replaced the machine, with ANY machine I wanted AND fixed the kitchen floor.
So, I chose a Bosch Excell Intergrated machine. And do you know what? its pretty amazing to be fair; it too is pretty quiet, BUT even if the machine rocks when spinning the floor or the house doesnt. It is a shame its hidden behind a cupboard door, but at least I have a machine that will wash and not ruin my kitchen.
Programme times are great, and spin results are fab - the water fillsfrom a spout above the door - its fun to watch when it spins during the rinses as the water comes on to fill whilst the drum is slowing down; bit like old hoovers/hotpoints.
I use Wash Plus and Aqua Plus on all cycles; water levels half way up the door for rinses and quarter up door during washing.
The Which magazine also voted it their best buy, just slightly under the Miele built in one (trust me if Argos did Miele I would have one!!)
The Aqualtis is at the top of my stairs as Hotpoint have to collect it. its been 3 weeks now and they havent been in touch.......I wont be contacting them!
Pic below shows the huge gaps in my floor caused by the washing machine - the laminate has literally been vibrated appart!!!
chrisbsuk
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another ruined floor shot
I know it was the washing machine as the old machine it replaced didnt ever do this
another ruined floor shot
I know it was the washing machine as the old machine it replaced didnt ever do this
Wooden floors are always a problem
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do about wooden floors.
My parents had a 1990s Miele 1550 spin machine which was on a wooden floor and it shook itself to bits after about 6 years. The novotronic controls fell out as the bracket snapped due to bouncing. Miele would not honour the parts guarantee and said it was installed. There are very specific instructions in the manual about installing on wooden floors. You have to screw plywood into the joists!
They ended up buying a new machine and moving their laundry room to the garage!
The machine also damaged the cabinets and shelving and wall near it due to years of vibration
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do about wooden floors.
My parents had a 1990s Miele 1550 spin machine which was on a wooden floor and it shook itself to bits after about 6 years. The novotronic controls fell out as the bracket snapped due to bouncing. Miele would not honour the parts guarantee and said it was installed. There are very specific instructions in the manual about installing on wooden floors. You have to screw plywood into the joists!
They ended up buying a new machine and moving their laundry room to the garage!
The machine also damaged the cabinets and shelving and wall near it due to years of vibration
paulinroyton
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Wooden Floor
My parents have a wooden floor in their kitchen. When their washer was on spin, the machine would shake like mad.
My Dad got someone to cut of the floor boards where the washer was sat, and poured concrete into the space.
Now, the machine works great and no vibration.
Paul
My parents have a wooden floor in their kitchen. When their washer was on spin, the machine would shake like mad.
My Dad got someone to cut of the floor boards where the washer was sat, and poured concrete into the space.
Now, the machine works great and no vibration.
Paul
liberator1509
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Replacing Bosch with Hotpoint
Hi Gary
Well done on bagging this washer! I too had one of those God-awful Bosch machines in the last house - truly rubbish POS! I have the Aqualtis Dryer and think it generally very good for a modern condensor. There are a few design niggles, but I'm pleasantly surprised by it! I rather fancy an Aqualtis washer to match it when we move to Ireland, but to be honest, I'm still more likely to use the top loaders.
Question about padded bras - I wonder if the previous owner have a member of the household who noticed the padding going missing from their 'foundation garments'? If three pads were found, is there someone out there in Cornwall with uneven cleavage?
D
Hi Gary
Well done on bagging this washer! I too had one of those God-awful Bosch machines in the last house - truly rubbish POS! I have the Aqualtis Dryer and think it generally very good for a modern condensor. There are a few design niggles, but I'm pleasantly surprised by it! I rather fancy an Aqualtis washer to match it when we move to Ireland, but to be honest, I'm still more likely to use the top loaders.
Question about padded bras - I wonder if the previous owner have a member of the household who noticed the padding going missing from their 'foundation garments'? If three pads were found, is there someone out there in Cornwall with uneven cleavage?
D
ronhic
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Floating....
....or laminate floors are a PITA in a wet area.....
....or laminate floors are a PITA in a wet area.....
Hi Chris,
quote: "I wrote to Argos who i bought the machine from and they have replaced the machine, with ANY machine I wanted AND fixed the kitchen floor"
So am I correct in saying all you had to do was write to Argos with the nature of your complaint and they supplied you with a fully integrated Bosch washer? wow, I have never heard of a company doing this for vibration issues.
quote: "I wrote to Argos who i bought the machine from and they have replaced the machine, with ANY machine I wanted AND fixed the kitchen floor"
So am I correct in saying all you had to do was write to Argos with the nature of your complaint and they supplied you with a fully integrated Bosch washer? wow, I have never heard of a company doing this for vibration issues.
paulinroyton
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Comet
Comet are the worst offender in consumer care. When my Bosch broke down after 6 months of use. Comet did not want to help.
Sadly, when you buy a bosch washing machine from Comet, then comet engineers will come out to repair it and not Bosch engineers.
Bosch told me that comet buy their machines at a reduced rate from bosch, but in return, comet engineers do all service work.
In total I was 2 weeks without a washing machine. Comet told me that 2 weeks is quite normal to wait for a repair.
I did engage the Which Magazine legal team and gave me sound advice.
Paul
Comet are the worst offender in consumer care. When my Bosch broke down after 6 months of use. Comet did not want to help.
Sadly, when you buy a bosch washing machine from Comet, then comet engineers will come out to repair it and not Bosch engineers.
Bosch told me that comet buy their machines at a reduced rate from bosch, but in return, comet engineers do all service work.
In total I was 2 weeks without a washing machine. Comet told me that 2 weeks is quite normal to wait for a repair.
I did engage the Which Magazine legal team and gave me sound advice.
Paul
chrisbsuk
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bertrum.....
Yes, I did write to Argos, and detailed that the machine was damaging my kitchen, and it wasnt fit for purpose (i.e. no mention in any of hotpoints or argos's literature that the machine should be placed on a concrete floor etc)
sent pictures of the damage - and they called me within 5 days and did indeed make that offer
Yes, I did write to Argos, and detailed that the machine was damaging my kitchen, and it wasnt fit for purpose (i.e. no mention in any of hotpoints or argos's literature that the machine should be placed on a concrete floor etc)
sent pictures of the damage - and they called me within 5 days and did indeed make that offer
paulinroyton
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In Shock
A good friend of mine has just bought a house with contents. The people he bought the house off have emigrated to New Zealand.
He phoned me last night to say he is having a new kitchen with all built in appliances,and would I like the washer thats in the house at present. I of course said YES PLEASE.
Last night he delivered the washer, and I am now in shock. Will take some photos and put them on this thread.
Paul
A good friend of mine has just bought a house with contents. The people he bought the house off have emigrated to New Zealand.
He phoned me last night to say he is having a new kitchen with all built in appliances,and would I like the washer thats in the house at present. I of course said YES PLEASE.
Last night he delivered the washer, and I am now in shock. Will take some photos and put them on this thread.
Paul
paulinroyton
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Washer
Here it is,
Here it is,
paulinroyton
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dyson2drums
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WOW...
lucky you Paul...
I love the miele w1000 range, whats the model number for this machine?
seems to be extra special with the "home care" label...
Thanks for pics
lucky you Paul...
I love the miele w1000 range, whats the model number for this machine?
seems to be extra special with the "home care" label...
Thanks for pics
Suspended Floors
There will always be issues with automatic machines not placed on concrete floors as the forces generated when the machine is winding up and down for the spin are terriffic. I know this even as far back as my Philips 082 way back in 1983 when I moved into a top floor flat in an old house.
The only answer is to place it on a thick board to help spread the load, unless you fill the void with concerete as Paul suggests. My Miele 1400 has happily resised in my 1st floor bathroom for the last 6 years with no problems although you certainly do know when it goes into the spin. It sits on and offcut of 40mm worktop. The bathroom is above the kitchen which I do not want to fill with concrete. I believe Seamus has a similar arrangement to mine.
Paul, some people get ALL the luck, that Miele washer is simply FAB!
Al
There will always be issues with automatic machines not placed on concrete floors as the forces generated when the machine is winding up and down for the spin are terriffic. I know this even as far back as my Philips 082 way back in 1983 when I moved into a top floor flat in an old house.
The only answer is to place it on a thick board to help spread the load, unless you fill the void with concerete as Paul suggests. My Miele 1400 has happily resised in my 1st floor bathroom for the last 6 years with no problems although you certainly do know when it goes into the spin. It sits on and offcut of 40mm worktop. The bathroom is above the kitchen which I do not want to fill with concrete. I believe Seamus has a similar arrangement to mine.
Paul, some people get ALL the luck, that Miele washer is simply FAB!
Al
paulinroyton
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Miele Washer
Hi Dyson2drums & Al.
Still in shock yet, lol. The model no is W1730 Home Care. It,s got the honeycomb care drum, 1400rpm.
I tried the machine today, and it great. Used the water plus button, and it had nice deep rinses.
I have no idea how old this machine is, as its not on the Miele website.
Its a great machine, strong constuction and made in Germany, unlike my Bosch Maxx 5.
Paul
Hi Dyson2drums & Al.
Still in shock yet, lol. The model no is W1730 Home Care. It,s got the honeycomb care drum, 1400rpm.
I tried the machine today, and it great. Used the water plus button, and it had nice deep rinses.
I have no idea how old this machine is, as its not on the Miele website.
Its a great machine, strong constuction and made in Germany, unlike my Bosch Maxx 5.
Paul
paulc
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Paul
I have a Miele W1613, comsetically almost identical to the Miele you have been given....hope you love it as much as I love mine!!!
I have a Miele W1613, comsetically almost identical to the Miele you have been given....hope you love it as much as I love mine!!!
toggleswitch
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paulinroyton
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Miele
Hi Paul.
Only done 1 load in the machine. Its great, and love the deep rinses when water plus is switched on.
Such a good quality machine.
Paul
Hi Paul.
Only done 1 load in the machine. Its great, and love the deep rinses when water plus is switched on.
Such a good quality machine.
Paul
paulinroyton
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Miele
Today I have done 3 loads in my Miele. The machine is great. Just found out I can alter some of the settings.
I have set the machine so it cools down the wash water on every cycle.
Its nice and quiet, and the spin is so smooth.
Paul
Today I have done 3 loads in my Miele. The machine is great. Just found out I can alter some of the settings.
I have set the machine so it cools down the wash water on every cycle.
Its nice and quiet, and the spin is so smooth.
Paul
paulc
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Paul
What does the Homecare cycle do? I don't have that on my machine. I have seperat dark garments and denim cycles though.
What does the Homecare cycle do? I don't have that on my machine. I have seperat dark garments and denim cycles though.
paulinroyton
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Homecare Cycle
Hi Paul.
The Homecare cycle is Intensive Plus. The water temperature is from cold - 95c. It starts with an automatic pre wash, then goes into a long main wash. The programme duration is 2hours and 46 mins, uses 69 litres of water, and has intensive rhythm.
What I like about my machine is you are able to set high water level on all programmes and an extra rinse. The rinse cycle is great, uses a lot of water.
Paul
Hi Paul.
The Homecare cycle is Intensive Plus. The water temperature is from cold - 95c. It starts with an automatic pre wash, then goes into a long main wash. The programme duration is 2hours and 46 mins, uses 69 litres of water, and has intensive rhythm.
What I like about my machine is you are able to set high water level on all programmes and an extra rinse. The rinse cycle is great, uses a lot of water.
Paul
paulc
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Thanks
for the info Paul.
for the info Paul.
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