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Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Thanks chaps.

Paul you can hijack all you like if it anything to do with old Hotpoint’s
I’ve come over all 18-series starry eyed and it's bloody good.

When are you going to plug that machine in and try it out, come on I’m getting impatience.

A teaser for someone else, is there going to be a separate thread for another 18-series, ho, goody goody. Gone all starry eyed again.

Manual wow that’s great thanks.

As you can see from the photos the rust is much worse than I first thought in the base plate, and the bottom edges of the cabinet are quite bad as well, not penetrating rust, just on the surface and it’s all flaky, I certainly cant do it myself, well I could but it would look ten times worse than it is now, I just don’t have the patience to spray paint anything, I want it done now and end up with runs and dribbles, no good at all, so I don’t mind paying a professional to do it. It’s a shame she has to live in the garage.

I’ve had a busy weekend out in the work shop, Saturday the project machine had a little up-grade and I washed 4 loads it plus Sunday stripping the 1851/03 lets hope the good warm weather is going to last for some time.

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Liberator 1851 Manual

I aim to collect manuals and other pieces of literature in either digital or paper form. Unfortunatley for me I'm having bother finding manuals or brochures. I also see that the 1851 that manual belonged to must have lasted into the 90's. Why so hard to find then?

James.
 
Time to own up!

Hiya Lee.

I plugged it in on the Friday night that I took it to my folks for the respray.
Only on spin and without any water though.

It has been fitted with a 100% original Hotpoint Peterborough built pump, totally different to what we all know as Hotpoint pumps which are sourced from an external supplier.
This original pump is possibly of the same type that was fitted to the Hotpoint 1600 - I will have to get a photo of it to show the differences (assuming that visually there are some).
Its a lot louder and rumbly than what we are used to, though the absence of water and it being bone dry probably accentuated the noise.

It will get tested soon though.

Paul
p.s let us know how it goes with the powder coaters. I am really intrigued to see the standard that is achived, as I have two machines that could do with the same treatment.

To tide us over, I thought I would post a piccy of one of the more obscure Liberators, in the form of the 1824 two button jobby. Was only in production for a year from 1978 into 1979, when it was replaced by the 18340...

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Hotpoint 1824...

Actually quite nice for a Bottom of the Range machine. If I ever come across a Liberator over here I'd say it would be that model as it would just about fit the typical budget then. If I did I wouldn't mind it at all. No matching dryer for it though. Unless I got a white door for a 1701. I'm off school for 4 weeks now and I hope something good will happen.

James.
 
Hi James.

Owning a couple of doors off the 1824 and best buy models 1827 Super electronic and 1700 dryer, to find a white door would be a miracle.
Just like with the powder drawer fascias and any white fasciad machine built in the 80s, the doors yellow something chronic.

The one below is a 1700 dryer and is a goodun, when compared to the doors I have.
I think the fascia sticker would have been white as well at one time...

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You have a decent spares stash I take it? That wouldn't consist of two Hotpoint Supermatic spinner motors would it? I'm having terrible bother findinh one for the spinner and one for the 146* ;)

James.
 
Fraid not James.

Twin tubs and top loader machines are a swine to store, as you cant really stack things on them or stack them on other machines.
The awkwardness of the machines also filters down to their spare parts, which are a pain to harbour too.

As a result, I tend not to hold such spares myself.

Paul
 
Shame...

I'm off school for 4 weeks and I intended to get the motors, other spares, machines from "irishmark" (but I think me and him had a little fall out over nothing, I NEED AN AGONY AUNT ON THAT ONE LOL) and hopefully finding something along the way. Also some adjustments were made to the Wash House.

Ah Liberators... I dream... What a nice sight to have my very own one up in that shed... OR 1600/1830?

James.
 
Back to early 1975...

Hotpoint 1851 LIBERATOR DE LUXE
&
Hotpoint 1701 LIBERATOR DRYER

The 1851 was replaced by the 1851/03 (Lee's machine), which boasted a restyled fascia and fabric conditioner compartment - hence the /03 bit...

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Really enjoying this thread, and Paul you big tease, thanks for the teaser pic, I can't wait. Big thank you for all you and Rob have done. Any more teaser pic's?

Yours for ever

Rich
 
Any more teaser pic's?

Sure Richard.

Here is another....

FULL FRONTAL this time!
Though I think there is something wrong with my camera as, though the paintwork is good, its not as white as it looks in this picture....

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Someone is just going to have to wait, or look at my youtube channel instead for a sneak peak shortly!

Anyways - back to the Amethyst beauties.
Hope Wednesday has gone to plan Lee.

Paul

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Oh you, any who moving on, I didn't know Zanussi made two rebadged Hotpoints (going by the your picture) I thought it was just the one. What was the difference's ?

Rich
 
Full frontal...

I've never heard the like!! Great machine though Paul - I'm sure you'll raise the bar in terms of detail when it's done! And the tub graffiti seems to have been a feature on Hotpoint top-loaders in the UK - every single one that Rich and I have had between us has a litany of repairs in marker-pen on the poly-prop tubs. Inevitable of the TLs it goes pump, clutch, pump, clutch every couple of years!!

Lee - I'm very impressed with the detailed approach to dismantling - very thorough! Great to see a few of these machines surviving with so much (including the outlet hoses which always seem to disappear...). The self-leveller is a nice concept but just as bad on the top-loaders to work on. IIRC they fitted that on all 'high spin speed' models...what did the competition do (the Oovaah people)?

James - Hotpoint spin motors are probably still available if you have the cash, but equally they come up on ebay every now and again and most UK sellers will ship to Ireland if you ask them. Otherwise look out for a late supermatic - the spin motor will transfer over.

Mike - such a tease with that Liberator pic...
 
Hi David Hope your ok, love you pic on that new fandangled thing call Facebook, very distinguished, I know what you mean about Paul going on about full fontal,I got very excited and all we get is a white square lol. I've said it before and I'll say it again, tease, tease, tease.
 
Well - preview vid is uploaded!

Hi Richard.

Yep, Zanussi provided two machines to the Hotpoint range.

The 1823 was always the runt of the litter and was always the machine at the back of any promotional shots, ivariably with the 1701 dryer stacked on top of it.
Basic machine - no option buttons and a max spin speed of 380rpm!

The 1826 is the version that myself and rob own. Intermediate machine with 'super wash' and 'economy load' buttons, its spin was a middle of the range 520rpm.

The 1828 was totl in the 1976 to 1978 front loader range, with the 3 option buttons and 800rpm spin.

Paul

 
Hi david.

Hope you have settled into your new place ok.

I too am impressed by Lee's screw charts - a great idea and much better than the pyrex bowl that I invariably end up using.
Try so hard to put certain types of screws in particular parts of the bowl, but they all end up getting mixed up.

Paul
 
Hotpoint/ Zanussi

Hey Paul

Dont suppose you could dig out a pic of the back of your 1826?? reason being if you remember ages ago I told you about that washer in the front room of the house near me- im 90% sure its a 70s Zanussi and is def cold fill. Im thinking I need to put a note through the door lol......

Seamus
 
How do Seamus.

Hope all is well with yourself and Matt.

Piccy of the back of the 1826 below - do you need to write a note?

Fingers crossed you do!
Paul

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Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

I’m in a very bad mood, powder coaters in Leominster I was going to using have let me down.

“Ho sorry we can’t fit anything that big in our small chemical tank to strip the old paint off, best find a back street car body shop to wet spray paint it”

Bloody back street car body shop, don’t you realise this is the cream of British made washing machines from the early 70’s and requires only the best you absolute philistine. Bloody back street car bloody body shop.

So I have found another one in Ledbury who have quoted £30 chemical stripping and £50 powder coat to a factory finish, so I will be going out there some time next week.

And my computer is about to be sent out of the closed window if it dose not start to work bloody well right in a minute, I want a fag now, but I don’t smoke anymore do I.
ARARAAARARAJRS.

Calm, tranquil, unruffled, and relaxed I WANT A FAG NOW. no I don’t I want crack.
 
Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

Paul, just seen the video after shoving some more coal in this now very annoying computer which I think has been having unprotected sex on the internet and caught some sort of virus which is something it’s owner would never do unless under the influence of what ever is going.

ARARAAARARAJRS.

Is that 18580 from Manchester by any chance?
Both fine machines and cant wait for some footage of a full wash.

Not sure about the white door on the 1824 it just doesn’t look quite right, I would not turn it away if one came my way thought.

“What do you mean program not responding, you will respond when my foot enter your screen, now pull you self together NOW”.

Screw chart, well I get a bit inpatient when I loos things and then loos my temper, the garage door it testament to that as my foot imprint is still there, and this dam computer is going to end up with the same treatment soon.

“Program shutting down, I tell you what to do you piece of sh 1 t.”

I’m off to sit in a dark room, hopefully Norton 360 can sort this stupid computer out or my fist just might have to, I’m not violent at all.
 
Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe 1851-03

It won’t shut down now, keeps coming back to the web page, plug out of the wall then, you may not hear from for a day or too if it won’t reboot tomorrow.
 
Ahhh Lee.

The frustration of the powder coaters. Its only a temporary blip I am sure and I understand the frustration of wanting to get something done and finding obsticles in your path.
I am joining you in the frustration, as I want to see your machine sparkling too.
But we must all be patient - will all work out right in the end, I am sure.

Re the computer - my computer is 10 years old now and is slllloooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. It can also get even slllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr than that too and it does your head in. Sits there chunnering away and have only asked it to open windows explorer!
Just walk away for a bit and do something else.
I have tried hitting it, but it just sits there whilst my fist hurts, so who's won!?

Age might not be your problem though, so get your anti virus software run and see what it flags up.

Paul
 
Yep - that machine is the one from Manchester.
I cant wait to be able to introduce it to its new owner who, subject to it working all ok, I am sure will oblige with the videos of it - either done by himself or by me with his permission.

The white door 1824 - certainly does look a wee bit weird for sure. Like you - would never turn one down and would probably replace the door with chrome, cause I seriously doubt that the white door would still be white! Methinks it would be a lovely shade of creamy yellow at best.
Then again, my conscience would say 'keep original', so it would no doubt head to my parents, accompanied by a can of white car paint.

On the subject of obscure Liberators, I did tonight what I have been meaning to do for ages and took photos of the exploded diagrams for the designed, but never built, Hotpoint 1840 Liberator.
Cold fill only and with one lonely door release button, I have doctored a photo of a 1850 to show what it wold have looked like.
I am pretty sure that Hotpoint wouldnt have given it the white door treatment, that they meeted out to the 1824. Nevertheless, even with a chrome door, it certainly is a very plain machine...

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