norgeway
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You really wont believe this...EVERYTHING WORKS! EVEN THE CLOCK, it cleaned up very well!!
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norgeway
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Lets try some more pictures..
The glare was terrible on those..
The glare was terrible on those..
norgeway
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I hope
You all will be on the look out for a new window for the door, that is really the only thing that needs fixing, the thermostat was about 50 degrees too hot, but most are after 50 years, I calibrated it and it holds a nice steady 350 when set at 350!
You all will be on the look out for a new window for the door, that is really the only thing that needs fixing, the thermostat was about 50 degrees too hot, but most are after 50 years, I calibrated it and it holds a nice steady 350 when set at 350!
danemodsandy
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Window:
Hans:
Oven door glass is tempered glass. Unless one of our real experts like John combo52 knows something the rest of us don't, you should be able to have tempered glass of the correct thickness cut to size.
Oven door windows of that vintage are usually pretty similar - there are two (sometimes three) pieces of glass held in a metal frame that is between the inner and outer panels of the door. Air spaces are between each piece of glass; this is what keeps the window reasonably cool.
You will need to get the outer panel off the door. On ranges of that vintage, the door is not a lift-off door, so you need to be very observant of how the door and hinges work as you're disassembling.
Once you're inside the door, you'll see how to get the glass pack (the frame holding the pieces of glass, plus the glass itself) out of the door.
Somewhere along the frame, you will usually see that it was made from one long piece of metal, and you will see how it is joined together. One common method is a couple of metal tabs in one end of the piece of metal inserted through slots in the other end, then bent over to lock the metal into its final, rectangular shape. Careful prying of these tabs will release the frame, and then you can lift out the glass.
To reassemble, you would have Donald hold the frame and glass in alignment while you put the tabs back through the slots and re-bend them. Be careful doing that, because if you break a tab, your frame is toast, and it's not a very easy part to find.
You would then put the glass pack back in the oven door where it belongs, and reassemble the door.
This is all a very generic, simplified explanation, but it has been a long, long time since I've done this. Present-day ovens have window glass that is not installed anything like the same way, so there's not much explanation of these older window systems on the Internet.
Hans:
Oven door glass is tempered glass. Unless one of our real experts like John combo52 knows something the rest of us don't, you should be able to have tempered glass of the correct thickness cut to size.
Oven door windows of that vintage are usually pretty similar - there are two (sometimes three) pieces of glass held in a metal frame that is between the inner and outer panels of the door. Air spaces are between each piece of glass; this is what keeps the window reasonably cool.
You will need to get the outer panel off the door. On ranges of that vintage, the door is not a lift-off door, so you need to be very observant of how the door and hinges work as you're disassembling.
Once you're inside the door, you'll see how to get the glass pack (the frame holding the pieces of glass, plus the glass itself) out of the door.
Somewhere along the frame, you will usually see that it was made from one long piece of metal, and you will see how it is joined together. One common method is a couple of metal tabs in one end of the piece of metal inserted through slots in the other end, then bent over to lock the metal into its final, rectangular shape. Careful prying of these tabs will release the frame, and then you can lift out the glass.
To reassemble, you would have Donald hold the frame and glass in alignment while you put the tabs back through the slots and re-bend them. Be careful doing that, because if you break a tab, your frame is toast, and it's not a very easy part to find.
You would then put the glass pack back in the oven door where it belongs, and reassemble the door.
This is all a very generic, simplified explanation, but it has been a long, long time since I've done this. Present-day ovens have window glass that is not installed anything like the same way, so there's not much explanation of these older window systems on the Internet.
norgeway
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Re Door..
It IS a lift off, same hinges GEs used for years....It is the outer panel that is cracked, so its usable as is, but im hoping to find one with the filagree on it like my Aunts was, this one is plain...
It IS a lift off, same hinges GEs used for years....It is the outer panel that is cracked, so its usable as is, but im hoping to find one with the filagree on it like my Aunts was, this one is plain...
danemodsandy
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Hans:
I stand corrected - I keep forgetting how early GE was with lift-off hinges, because as you know, my own GE interests center around P*7 units, which did not have lift-off doors for a long time. My '72 still does not have a lift-off door.
Good luck with finding the filigreed glass. I am wagering you'll have to buy a donor range to get it, unless someplace like Modern Parts is able to work a small miracle.
If you do find a donor range of the same vintage, it should be very easy to change windows. Just disassemble the door, lift out the cracked glass pack, put in the donor range's glass pack and close 'er up. The only reason you would have to disassemble the donor glass pack would be if there was grease film between the panes of glass. That's how I got my experience with disassembling glass packs - cleaning between the panes.
I stand corrected - I keep forgetting how early GE was with lift-off hinges, because as you know, my own GE interests center around P*7 units, which did not have lift-off doors for a long time. My '72 still does not have a lift-off door.
Good luck with finding the filigreed glass. I am wagering you'll have to buy a donor range to get it, unless someplace like Modern Parts is able to work a small miracle.
If you do find a donor range of the same vintage, it should be very easy to change windows. Just disassemble the door, lift out the cracked glass pack, put in the donor range's glass pack and close 'er up. The only reason you would have to disassemble the donor glass pack would be if there was grease film between the panes of glass. That's how I got my experience with disassembling glass packs - cleaning between the panes.
philr
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Nice range!
Was the glass replaced by a plain one or is it just missing? I can't make it from the pictures. If it was replaced, I think it looks good like that.
Do you have a picture of what it should look like?
Was the glass replaced by a plain one or is it just missing? I can't make it from the pictures. If it was replaced, I think it looks good like that.
Do you have a picture of what it should look like?
norgeway
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It doesent show up...
But it has a big crack in it...I believe its not the original, because its just plain clear glass...
But it has a big crack in it...I believe its not the original, because its just plain clear glass...
Hans, you mentioned that the front 8 inch unit had three coils. Do you mean that it has the three size patterns, 4, 6 & 8 like the thermostatic units? I don't see any size selector so it might be that exact unit with fewer controls. It is possible that it is the 3100 watt unit that was the original wattage of the GE Sensi-Temps and Hotpoint Super-Matic units. Without a thermal control, I can see why HI is a red button. If you use a high powered light, you might be able to read the wattage on one of the surface unit supports.
polkanut
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Sandy said what I was just thinking. I too was going to suggest getting in contact with Larry @ Modern Parts in Parma, OH. Even if he doesn't have anything in stock, he may be able to steer you in the right direction.
hooverwheelaway
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Congratulations on finding a beautiful range, Hans! It's a very handsome range at that... I'm sure you'll find a donor door or donor glass somewhere, with as many ranges as GE/Hotpoint made and sold. Is that a single or double oven model?
Handsome Range!
That's a great looking range, I like the control console and the big window. Hotpoint seemed to go through a phase with very tall consoles on their upper-end ranges and laundry equipment, this gives them a nice and substantial look.
Good luck in finding a new glass!
That's a great looking range, I like the control console and the big window. Hotpoint seemed to go through a phase with very tall consoles on their upper-end ranges and laundry equipment, this gives them a nice and substantial look.
Good luck in finding a new glass!
norgeway
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Extra High Speed
Unit has 3 separate coils, just like the ones with a switch selecting 4 6 or 8 inch,Hi heats all 3 ,med hi heats the middle coil...works great and is really hot on high, oddly this range says med and med hi instead of 3rd and 2nd..
Unit has 3 separate coils, just like the ones with a switch selecting 4 6 or 8 inch,Hi heats all 3 ,med hi heats the middle coil...works great and is really hot on high, oddly this range says med and med hi instead of 3rd and 2nd..
18millstreet
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61 HOTPOINT RANGE
Hello, You may be hearing from Jeff soon.talked with him couple hours ago. I am also hotpoint collector. I may be able to help with window pack for oven. I have extra large window,stillin door ,will have to check to see if mine looks like yours. my door is lift off from 1965 model. I also think I have sell catalog sheet for your model range. hope to talk with you soon,take care & congrats! Walt
Hello, You may be hearing from Jeff soon.talked with him couple hours ago. I am also hotpoint collector. I may be able to help with window pack for oven. I have extra large window,stillin door ,will have to check to see if mine looks like yours. my door is lift off from 1965 model. I also think I have sell catalog sheet for your model range. hope to talk with you soon,take care & congrats! Walt
norgeway
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Talked to Jeff...
Last night, Cant wait to talk to you Walt,I am very interested in the history of this range, and the door...Hans
Last night, Cant wait to talk to you Walt,I am very interested in the history of this range, and the door...Hans
Is this a single oven model, Hans? Can't tell from the pics of the controls. You're right about the filigree pattern on the door glass, it would add a bit of glam.
(BTW, Love that Club teakettle!)
(BTW, Love that Club teakettle!)
I believe it is a single oven model. There are no buttons for the oven settings so one dial must be for the oven set and one for the oven temp.
