Hotpoint UK circa 1963 brochure & other pics

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Amazing brochure Paul!

Delight to look at indeed. Some new thing's to learn about too and those cutaway's are outstanding. Shame no 1420's are known to exist, would be interesting to see what difference the "Powder Clutch" made in terms of relief on the motor and noise etc.

The blue "Filter Pan" is lovely as is the black "Spiraclean". The blue "Spiraclean" is nice too though!

Paul you have an email too.

James.
 
Hi Mike.

Totally agree with you about the brochure. Laden with information and character, have to say that it is one of my faves.

Certainly seems that they went politely for the jugular of the other manufacturers, but without offering them any free advertising by naming them. Though the word 'zones' does get dropped in there.

But as I say, done ever so politely.
Paul
 
Hi David

You are probably right about 1964, though am sure that this was a production brochure.

Introduction dates for the early machines are difficult to come by because these are the machines for which service manuals are a tad elusive.
Even the later ones, with their tendency to be updates and cover many of the older models, fail to mention the 1500, 1501 and 1502.
Sufficiently different to not warrant inclusion with the likes of the 1504, 1507 and 1518?

As a result I have the date 1963 in my spreadsheet for the 1500 and 1964/65 for the 1501, though it probably should read 1964 for the 1500 and 1965 for the 1501.

When Mike gets his 1501 back from Mark, it will be interseting to try and fathom its spin spped - 850rpm or 1050rpm? - and get the date code off it too!

Paul
 
Hi Austin.

Cant ask his permission, as I dont think that Kevin is a member on here, but over the last few years I have accumulated some other pictures of his EE 4151 Liberator Twin Tub.

Certainly looks different for its red agitator - I never knew it had a brush to catch the fluff though, as always assumed that it just had a red filter tray.
More new stuff learnt!

Anyway - piccies below....

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Hi Keith.

My computer cannot stand my scanner - takes hours to scan a handful of pages, as my geriatric computer builds the pages line by bloomin line. Ohhhh the agony.

As such, I tend to photograph my brochures and tend to get better results than scanning them. Not being a dab hand with the scanner, when I have indulged I always manage to get awful colour contrast, as well as seeing the grain of the paper and also seeing traces of whats on the other side of the page.

So I simply set my camera to detail setting and try to make sure that I have a constant, equal supply of normal daylight. The results are what you see with the eye which, as far as I am concerned, is a lot more pleasing.
Artificial light is a no no, as it casts an awful orange glow on the page.

A lot more quicker than scanning - for me at any rate.

I have some exploded diagrams of the 1400 and 1420 in my files - will try and photograph them to see what set up they had for emptying.
Will try and post them soon.

Paul
 
Square tub Supermatic

To answer Austin, the supermatic evolved once more after this model, to the style that formed the basis for the entire production through to the final 9-series models. That model arrived circa 1968 (others will know the model number and date, and Mike and Jon, amongst others no doubt, have examples) introduced the round tub and spiraclean agitator (and a 7lb wash load, but still a 6lb spin can - Mike and other Servis fans will note that Servis made much about this mis-match in their advertising....). Quite why Hotpoint produced both the spiraclean and the earlier maytag-style gyrator simultaneously could probably be explained by planned phasing out of the wringer models - which were gone by the about 6 years later, whereas the Supermatic (and the flagship automatic) were made for many more years.

The english electric was a later derivative (of the 1968 model I believe), and dated from the GEC takeover of both AEI and English Electric in 1968 - I can't imagine many of that form were made, as the english electric brand was dropped in the early 1970s with the introduction Hotpoint Liberators. Prior to 1968, EE was totally separate brand from Hotpoint, and IIRC their twintub was an impeller model - after the introduction of the Hotpoint Liberators, the EE brand was dropped save the occasional outing as a 'special' for particular stores.

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EE 4151 Twin Tub

Never saw pic's of that one in detail. The lids are lovely.

Since we are chatting about early Hotpoint history, I have something to ask and solve for the final time.

Before 1970/1, in Ireland what names were Hotpoint sold under and were there different model numbers etc.? Maybe some models weren't even sold here. I want to know for certain now so that I can be specific in what I'm looking for. I assume EE never made it here and that across the border in NI all was the same as the UK?
Is it possible that Co. Donegal had exclusive access to the Hotpoint brand since it was a stones throw from NI?

Sorry to appear to be hijacking?

James.
 
Lee, James and Paul.

Glad that the brochure has proved an interesting read. Some other piccies of machines under discussion to come shortly.

Much like this....

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Hi Christopher.

The machine that your gran owned was a Hotpoint 1502 Automatic, which was introduced around 1967 and lasted in production until the 1504 Automatic de luxe came along in September 1969.

There is one model 1502 in safe hands, but its in storage for a rainy day restoration.

Thanks for posting the covers of your grans instruction manual.
Paul

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Hotpoint in Ireland

Hi James

Prior to the GEC takeover, AEI-Hotpoint models were sold as Gala in all export markets including Ireland (to do with the name licence from GE - not of course to be confused with GEC either). In New Zeland, the automatic design was licenced to Fisher-Paykel who manufactured variations on it for years, using Kelivnator and other brand names. My parents had a Gala 1502 - all the model names were the same, except that the Supermatic was called Filtermatic here.

All the 1960 washers were sold here, the only model that didn't appear here as a Gala was the supermatic-derived spin-dryer (I think that was post 1968 anyway).

English Electric were also sold here, my Aunt had a Liberator front-loader, later replaced with an early Hotpoint Liberator FL.
 
Christopher.

Would have helped if I had read the bumpffff a bit more - seems that model 1502 was introduced in 1966, seeing as it won the design award.
I've learnt another new snippet of info - over to the spreadsheet to update.

Paul

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Hi Paul,
I noted your point about taking pic's instead of trying to scan items !!

Luv the pic of the 1420 you have uploaded, is it from a brochure or a single picture ?

Look forward to the scans of the 1420, I have the service manual and it shows the valve box.

Like ya 1502, didn't know you had one.
Keith
 
No worries Christopher.

Glad that we are able to provide info on an old family machine.

The 'one 1502' - mine - No.
Though have to contact its owner soon - will ask about it!

Paul

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Hi Keith,

Yep - detailed photography of brochures really works for me. Much better than scanning though, as well as getting the light right, you also have to try and get the camera straight on for each page photographed or else you know about it.

One area where it falls is with the edges of the page which can be seen to curve with the perspective.
Lifting the camera higher above the page will lessen this, though then you have to adjust the size setting to avoid getting the actual page too small in the photo.
Nothing is ever simple! lol.

Re the 1502 - no not my machine, but have just texted the owner to enquire as to its status. See what he says!

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Just gone and done a quick bit of research re the introduction date of the 1502 and am minded to put it back to 1967!

Reason 1 - KAYS Catalogue Autumn Winter 1966-67 was still flogging the 1501.
Reason 2 - KAYS Catalogue Spring Summer 1967 was flogging the 1502.
&
Reason 3 - the advert below, showing the 1501......

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Hi Paul,
Thanks for the additional pic's of the 1501 & 1420. I take it this is a page from a mail order catalogue.
I have a friend who use to work for Hotpoint and his mother apparently has a 1420, no longer in use,but he thinks it is fab and don't think it is up for re-homing :(
but never say never.
Hope the 1502 comes your way soon !
Keith
 
Enjoying the thread

Thanks for uploading the pictures Paul, and all the information your're all shareing.

Hi David, good to hear from you, your 1509 is still safe and snug in its packing.

Yes the knocking the competion, seemed to be a national sport back then, and not so subtle either `lazy wishy washy' lol. But joking aside, they are geat machines, and that supermatic spinner has to be seen to be believed, 0 to 2850 in a few seconds.

James, I am also interested in this powder clutch, seeing how the 1420 is essentially the 1400 with a new streamlined cabinet, going by the sectional view.
The spinner is a direct drive off the induction motor, no clutch is used. Though it does have an integral brake on the motor shaft, that uses the motor thrust to release it when the motor starts and the drums thrust to apply it when the motor is switched off, and a very effective break it is too. Keith, can you shed any light on this, I've wondered for ages how this would work, and which model was it used on.

Just a couple of other observations.

I see the english electric twintub, had the flared end on the drain hose as used on the automatics, so no suds return hole as the defuser end wouldn't fit in.

And way up in one of the first photos of the 1420, i spy a hoover iron ready and waiting lol.

Oh and yes would be great to get these machines and us lot together one day.

But for now enjoy the pictures.

Mathew
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OMG Keith!

Hi Keith.

Many thanks for posting the adverts for the 1502. Its a superb piece of info for one of the more obscure versions of the Hotpoint toploaders.

Paul
 
The KAYS Catalogue Archive!!!!!!!

Hi again Keith.

Yep - the pictures I have recently posted are from KAYS catalogues and are as of a consequence of visiting The KAYS Catalogue Archive, which is held at the University of Worcester.

The archive is available for research visits and all you need to do to visit is contact them and arrange a date and time.
They are really helpful and are eager for people to visit them and use the resource, as it enables them to justify expenditure on it.

So, to everyone, if you want to visit just get in touch with them!
Link attached below.

Paul

http://www.worc.ac.uk/ils/635.htm
 

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