Great thread
Im thinking I want a vintage hottie top loader ! Any one got one ?
Cheers Richard
Im thinking I want a vintage hottie top loader ! Any one got one ?
Cheers Richard
Hotpoint UK Washers & Dryers - 1st Automatic to final New Generation
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matchboxpaul
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The 1st Hotpoint Liberator - Model 1850
The initial 'range' turned out to be a mix of the new, the old and the non-existant!
The 'new' was Model 1850 LIBERATOR DE LUXE which, though de luxe, turned out to be the only new model in the front loader 'range' and essentially remained so until 1976.
The model offered Auto Prewash, Gentle Action and Rinse Hold as option buttons and provided one spin speed of 750rpm, with a black vitreous enamel inner drum.
The final switch on the fascia was the white door release....
The initial 'range' turned out to be a mix of the new, the old and the non-existant!
The 'new' was Model 1850 LIBERATOR DE LUXE which, though de luxe, turned out to be the only new model in the front loader 'range' and essentially remained so until 1976.
The model offered Auto Prewash, Gentle Action and Rinse Hold as option buttons and provided one spin speed of 750rpm, with a black vitreous enamel inner drum.
The final switch on the fascia was the white door release....
matchboxpaul
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Model 1830 Automatic
This was the 'old' and came in the form of a restyled Hotpoint 1600 Automatic.
Just quite how much it was restyled, remains unclear to me. What is certain is that, whereas the 1600 had a dark worktop and black dial, the 1830 had them changed to white.
Confusion exists with regard to whether this machine received any sort of purple regalia at all. Certainly there exists a photograph (hiya Matt!) that shows an 1830, though unfortunately its at an awkward angle. It certainly gives the impression that this particular 1830 had a purple-ish door bowl, though other people I have had comms with state that the 1830 had a clear door bowl and had no shades of purple on it all.
Unfortunately no good clear photograph seems to exist of an 1830 - the only 'image' I have is a line drawing from a 1974 copy of Which Magazine.
If anybody is able to help with a photograph of the 1830, then I would be really grateful...
This was the 'old' and came in the form of a restyled Hotpoint 1600 Automatic.
Just quite how much it was restyled, remains unclear to me. What is certain is that, whereas the 1600 had a dark worktop and black dial, the 1830 had them changed to white.
Confusion exists with regard to whether this machine received any sort of purple regalia at all. Certainly there exists a photograph (hiya Matt!) that shows an 1830, though unfortunately its at an awkward angle. It certainly gives the impression that this particular 1830 had a purple-ish door bowl, though other people I have had comms with state that the 1830 had a clear door bowl and had no shades of purple on it all.
Unfortunately no good clear photograph seems to exist of an 1830 - the only 'image' I have is a line drawing from a 1974 copy of Which Magazine.
If anybody is able to help with a photograph of the 1830, then I would be really grateful...
matchboxpaul
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The non-existant Model 1840
This was to have been the standard model in the range, with the 1850 being the deluxe and the 1830 being a case of exhausting the spare parts bin - this fact of the latter, with the assistance of a fire at the spare parts warehouse and combined with their one off nature, being major factors in the short lived nature of both models 1600 and 1830.
Back to the 1840...
This was a cold fill only , optionless machine, simply branded 'HOTPOINT LIBERATOR', with one lonely button on its fascia for door release.
A small paragraph in a servicing manual explains, with the apparrently real photo on the right hand side being a rendition of my own making.
A very plain machine it would have been...
This was to have been the standard model in the range, with the 1850 being the deluxe and the 1830 being a case of exhausting the spare parts bin - this fact of the latter, with the assistance of a fire at the spare parts warehouse and combined with their one off nature, being major factors in the short lived nature of both models 1600 and 1830.
Back to the 1840...
This was a cold fill only , optionless machine, simply branded 'HOTPOINT LIBERATOR', with one lonely button on its fascia for door release.
A small paragraph in a servicing manual explains, with the apparrently real photo on the right hand side being a rendition of my own making.
A very plain machine it would have been...
matchboxpaul
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Hotpoint's 1st tumble dryer - Model 1701
Here then was Hotpoints first ever tumble dryer - incredible to this of such a manufacturer entering this arena so late, what with Servis, Hoover and Creda entering the market in the 1960s, albeit with bought in designs.
Model 1701 was branded HOTPOINT LIBERATOR DRYER, providing the only real tumble dryer option they could offer, in the form of low heat.
This was the first version of 1701 suffixed by /01...
Here then was Hotpoints first ever tumble dryer - incredible to this of such a manufacturer entering this arena so late, what with Servis, Hoover and Creda entering the market in the 1960s, albeit with bought in designs.
Model 1701 was branded HOTPOINT LIBERATOR DRYER, providing the only real tumble dryer option they could offer, in the form of low heat.
This was the first version of 1701 suffixed by /01...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1701/01
finally some colour photos of a first generation machine.
The lack of colour pictures of the above models is simply down to the fact that few if any seem to exist. They are very rare machines...
finally some colour photos of a first generation machine.
The lack of colour pictures of the above models is simply down to the fact that few if any seem to exist. They are very rare machines...
matchboxpaul
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Top loader wise
Whilst the new front loader machines were being introduced, the 1969 vintage Model 1504 Automatic De Luxe toploader was left to fly the flag for its own particular market niche.
This it would do until 1974, when things went a bit weird in toploader world.
Around March of that year it was joined by a new top loader model, in the form of the 1507, alongside which it would be sold for another year.
Though this new model was given the new front loader styling, it was not called LIBERATOR, but instead was also called Automatic De Luxe and both models would do battle for the same market.
Model 1507...
Whilst the new front loader machines were being introduced, the 1969 vintage Model 1504 Automatic De Luxe toploader was left to fly the flag for its own particular market niche.
This it would do until 1974, when things went a bit weird in toploader world.
Around March of that year it was joined by a new top loader model, in the form of the 1507, alongside which it would be sold for another year.
Though this new model was given the new front loader styling, it was not called LIBERATOR, but instead was also called Automatic De Luxe and both models would do battle for the same market.
Model 1507...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1507
details....
details....
matchboxpaul
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Model 1509/01
1975 saw new safety rules come into force in the UK regarding the ability to open washing machine doors, when the machines were working. Basically it was no longer to be possible to simply push in the dial and open the door, with either the machine full of potentially hot water or coasting down from spin.
Machine doors were to be interlocked either mechanically or electrically and this caused Hotpoint to rework their models.
January 1975 saw new models introduced with this interlock feature and the arrival of the famous 1509 toploader, in the form of the Model 1509/01.
This was the direct replacement for the 1507, even retaining its name.
A link to a youtube video of a preserved example is below..
1975 saw new safety rules come into force in the UK regarding the ability to open washing machine doors, when the machines were working. Basically it was no longer to be possible to simply push in the dial and open the door, with either the machine full of potentially hot water or coasting down from spin.
Machine doors were to be interlocked either mechanically or electrically and this caused Hotpoint to rework their models.
January 1975 saw new models introduced with this interlock feature and the arrival of the famous 1509 toploader, in the form of the Model 1509/01.
This was the direct replacement for the 1507, even retaining its name.
A link to a youtube video of a preserved example is below..
matchboxpaul
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Things set weird again in toploader world - Model 1518
The weirdness I talk of is the fact that the 1969 vintage Model 1504 was NOT replaced by the 1509/01, but instead by its own visually identical model (though with interlock) in the form of the 1518 Automatic De Luxe.
This is the only picture I have of the 1518 and its just possible to make out the interlock peg attached to the lid, just underneath the left hand side of the lid pull handle...
The weirdness I talk of is the fact that the 1969 vintage Model 1504 was NOT replaced by the 1509/01, but instead by its own visually identical model (though with interlock) in the form of the 1518 Automatic De Luxe.
This is the only picture I have of the 1518 and its just possible to make out the interlock peg attached to the lid, just underneath the left hand side of the lid pull handle...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1509/02
...was introduced in September 1975, replacing both 1509/01 and 1518 and making them both very shortlived models.
Visually 1509/02 was identical to 1509/01, but this machine had its 4 pole motor replaced with a 2 pole version.
I dont knowingly have a photo of this model - anyone has one that they know is 100% model 1509/02, then please post it!
...was introduced in September 1975, replacing both 1509/01 and 1518 and making them both very shortlived models.
Visually 1509/02 was identical to 1509/01, but this machine had its 4 pole motor replaced with a 2 pole version.
I dont knowingly have a photo of this model - anyone has one that they know is 100% model 1509/02, then please post it!
matchboxpaul
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Model 1509/05
...was the penultimate Amethyst toploader and was introduced in April 1977. As with the 1509/02 over the 1509/01, the difference between 1509/05 and the 1509/02 that it replaced was purely mechanical, in the form of an electrically tripped flyback thermostat.
Apart from the mechanocal side of things, models 1509/01, 1509/02 and 1509/05 were all visually identical...
...was the penultimate Amethyst toploader and was introduced in April 1977. As with the 1509/02 over the 1509/01, the difference between 1509/05 and the 1509/02 that it replaced was purely mechanical, in the form of an electrically tripped flyback thermostat.
Apart from the mechanocal side of things, models 1509/01, 1509/02 and 1509/05 were all visually identical...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1509/05
and here is my own example, which was rescued a couple of years back from Stoke Damarell High School for Girls in Plymouth.
Thanks to Gary for helping that day - what a day it was
This was how it looked then...
and here is my own example, which was rescued a couple of years back from Stoke Damarell High School for Girls in Plymouth.
Thanks to Gary for helping that day - what a day it was
This was how it looked then...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1509/05
and this is how it looks now!
Date code 95, dating it to November 1977...
and this is how it looks now!
Date code 95, dating it to November 1977...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1509/05
with worktop...
with worktop...
matchboxpaul
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Winding back to 1975 and the interlock laws - Model 1851
JANUARY 1975
The original Model 1850 Liberator De Luxe was replaced by its interlocked derivitive, in the form of Model 1851.
As with toploader models 1509/01 and 1518, the 1851 was otherwise identical to the model it replaced...
JANUARY 1975
The original Model 1850 Liberator De Luxe was replaced by its interlocked derivitive, in the form of Model 1851.
As with toploader models 1509/01 and 1518, the 1851 was otherwise identical to the model it replaced...
matchboxpaul
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Model 1851/03
September 1975
and a further change befell the de luxe front loader - this time in the form of the addition of a fabric conditioner facility in the powder drawer and associated internal plumbing modifications.
The new model retained the usual name, though its model number was modified to 1851/03.
This model also received a smartened up fascia sticker and ushered in the oh so very familiar new Hotpoint name script.
Lee's superbly restored machine provides the only known photos of this variant, hence me posting one of it. Post some more Lee!
I have also linked to one of his 1851/03 youtube videos.
By now the 1851/03 was the only front loader in Hotpoint's laundry range, with the 1830 having been discontinued...
September 1975
and a further change befell the de luxe front loader - this time in the form of the addition of a fabric conditioner facility in the powder drawer and associated internal plumbing modifications.
The new model retained the usual name, though its model number was modified to 1851/03.
This model also received a smartened up fascia sticker and ushered in the oh so very familiar new Hotpoint name script.
Lee's superbly restored machine provides the only known photos of this variant, hence me posting one of it. Post some more Lee!
I have also linked to one of his 1851/03 youtube videos.
By now the 1851/03 was the only front loader in Hotpoint's laundry range, with the 1830 having been discontinued...
matchboxpaul
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1976 - getting into bed with the Italian's!
One of the reasons put forward to explain the rather restictive nature of Hotpoint's original range is that a fire (the same one that did in the spares supply of the 1600 and 1830, or another one?) at the production factory damaged the line.
The decision was then taken to focus production on the superior of its two possible production machines (the other being the cold fill 1840).
Whatever was the reasons, having a washing machine range consisting of one front loader and one top loader doesnt provide much scope for appealing to different markets. The top loader was expensive and though the front loader was less so, it certainly wasnt a cheap option either!
To widen the range, without damaging their own ability to provide the 185X machines, Hotpoint commissioned Zanussi to provide it with two machines from the Italian portfolio, but fully decked out in full Hotpoint Liberator garb.
The results entered the market during 1976.
The cheapest machine was the cold fill only Model 1823 Liberator C - an optionless machine with a painfully slow spin speed of 380rpm.
Unless it really was all that you could afford, you would have had to be a clown to buy one - wonder if that was why they picked that particular toy to accompany it in all the brochures?...
One of the reasons put forward to explain the rather restictive nature of Hotpoint's original range is that a fire (the same one that did in the spares supply of the 1600 and 1830, or another one?) at the production factory damaged the line.
The decision was then taken to focus production on the superior of its two possible production machines (the other being the cold fill 1840).
Whatever was the reasons, having a washing machine range consisting of one front loader and one top loader doesnt provide much scope for appealing to different markets. The top loader was expensive and though the front loader was less so, it certainly wasnt a cheap option either!
To widen the range, without damaging their own ability to provide the 185X machines, Hotpoint commissioned Zanussi to provide it with two machines from the Italian portfolio, but fully decked out in full Hotpoint Liberator garb.
The results entered the market during 1976.
The cheapest machine was the cold fill only Model 1823 Liberator C - an optionless machine with a painfully slow spin speed of 380rpm.
Unless it really was all that you could afford, you would have had to be a clown to buy one - wonder if that was why they picked that particular toy to accompany it in all the brochures?...
