Hotpoint / Zanussi Liberator Model 1826 Pictures
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Just 1 thing: It's not a real Hotpoint Liberator lol! It's a Zanussi! but I love the purple colour scheme though. I bet that model does anti-clockwise spin just like the Zanussi would. The service manual makes interesting and fascinating reading. I quite like to know about the export models that is mentioned on page 2 of the manual. I wonder 2 things, what other brands it was sold as and where?
Still, I love these models, I remember my Aunty having one, used to be scared of it lol, but now I'm not!
Still, I love these models, I remember my Aunty having one, used to be scared of it lol, but now I'm not!
matchboxpaul
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Brilliant stuff Rob .....
...many thanks for posting all the info.
It is absolutely superb and I will probably be spending tomorrow poring over it trying to decipher what was based on what, what repleced what and what had what features, amongst other things.
The facia diagrams are excellent!
It seems that every week or so I learn something new and it is thoroughly entertaining. I had no idea that there were 'two button' only liberators. I had always thought that there were only two basic types - the familiar 1828 type machine (4 buttons - non variable) and the 1848 type machines (4 buttons - variable spin), and that the two button machines were introduced when the Liberatoresques came along, replacing the purple/violet.
Hopefully, by the time I have deciphered all the info, lots of the red squares on my spreadsheet will disappear.
Once again Rob, thanks for posting the info and acknowledgement for the 1848 piccy to Mike (cheers for letting me know Rob).
All the best.
Paul
...many thanks for posting all the info.
It is absolutely superb and I will probably be spending tomorrow poring over it trying to decipher what was based on what, what repleced what and what had what features, amongst other things.
The facia diagrams are excellent!
It seems that every week or so I learn something new and it is thoroughly entertaining. I had no idea that there were 'two button' only liberators. I had always thought that there were only two basic types - the familiar 1828 type machine (4 buttons - non variable) and the 1848 type machines (4 buttons - variable spin), and that the two button machines were introduced when the Liberatoresques came along, replacing the purple/violet.
Hopefully, by the time I have deciphered all the info, lots of the red squares on my spreadsheet will disappear.
Once again Rob, thanks for posting the info and acknowledgement for the 1848 piccy to Mike (cheers for letting me know Rob).
All the best.
Paul
The 1828/02
No problems at all sharing this, always glad to help out.
Here is my pic. I've worked out it must be the 1828/02 introducted in 1978. A slightly different door from the 1848 (introduced the same year) and the dial and buttons have wording instead of symbols.
Rob
No problems at all sharing this, always glad to help out.
Here is my pic. I've worked out it must be the 1828/02 introducted in 1978. A slightly different door from the 1848 (introduced the same year) and the dial and buttons have wording instead of symbols.
Rob
matchboxpaul
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Well - its updated
Morning Rob.
I concour with yu on the 1828 above - I have since corrected it to 1828/02 myself.
I really do love the 1828 and its a shame that there don't appear to be any about anymore. It seems that my two greatest laundry loves - matchboxes and purple liberators - were hit really badly by the changeover to the throwaway society. Are we ever likely to see them again - fingers crossed. Maybe one day.
Anyway, thanks to your info the Liberators appear to be pretty much sussed. Although, as some mysteries are solved others arise. I stumbled across a pdf Design magazine from 1973, with a brief description of the then new Liberator series from Hotpoint.
The initial series was described as models 1830!...ummm, 1840!...ummm, 1850 (quickly repleced by the 1851 - no idea what the differences were), 1508 toploader and 1701 dryer.
It states that only models 1840 and 1850 are stacking compatible with the 1701, which leads me to believe that model 1830 could have been a compact.
The only other info needed is confirmation of month/year of introduction for some of the models and the rpm and button details for models 1850 and 1851.
All in all I am really pleased and appreciative.
Cheers.
Paul
p.s on the bottom it mentions about export models - what other countries were these machines sold in? any ideas?
Morning Rob.
I concour with yu on the 1828 above - I have since corrected it to 1828/02 myself.
I really do love the 1828 and its a shame that there don't appear to be any about anymore. It seems that my two greatest laundry loves - matchboxes and purple liberators - were hit really badly by the changeover to the throwaway society. Are we ever likely to see them again - fingers crossed. Maybe one day.
Anyway, thanks to your info the Liberators appear to be pretty much sussed. Although, as some mysteries are solved others arise. I stumbled across a pdf Design magazine from 1973, with a brief description of the then new Liberator series from Hotpoint.
The initial series was described as models 1830!...ummm, 1840!...ummm, 1850 (quickly repleced by the 1851 - no idea what the differences were), 1508 toploader and 1701 dryer.
It states that only models 1840 and 1850 are stacking compatible with the 1701, which leads me to believe that model 1830 could have been a compact.
The only other info needed is confirmation of month/year of introduction for some of the models and the rpm and button details for models 1850 and 1851.
All in all I am really pleased and appreciative.
Cheers.
Paul
p.s on the bottom it mentions about export models - what other countries were these machines sold in? any ideas?
matchboxpaul
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and the Liberatoresques
Again the only mysteries are confirmation of month/year of introduction and also some trim colours for certain models.
The silver facia machines are all sussed.
But then there was the next colour scheme introduced - brown facia with grey edging - see the 18361 (below left)
&
then all brown - see the 18381 (below right)
Again the only mysteries are confirmation of month/year of introduction and also some trim colours for certain models.
The silver facia machines are all sussed.
But then there was the next colour scheme introduced - brown facia with grey edging - see the 18361 (below left)
&
then all brown - see the 18381 (below right)
matchboxpaul
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Liberatoresques
Page 1
Page 1
matchboxpaul
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Liberatoresques
Page 2.
The weak points tend to predominate around the Microtronics and the small batch of Micros produced solely for Comet...
Page 2.
The weak points tend to predominate around the Microtronics and the small batch of Micros produced solely for Comet...
matchboxpaul
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Once again - much obliged for the info you posted Rob.
It was totally superb.
I am going to have to deal with those pesky Supermatics now!
Cheers
Paul
It was totally superb.
I am going to have to deal with those pesky Supermatics now!
Cheers
Paul
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OMG! It seems incredible like my Grandma's first washer!
Of course! Those beautifull purple/pink chromas seem incredible to me like my Grandma's first washing machine... and it was not a Hotpoint but a Sangiorgio.
My Nanna was one of the first woman in her little town to own a washing machine...it was in the 1968, when she retired from working and felt too tired to go on doing the wash by hand and decided to buy a machine very very like you posted in the pics above! One shining big knob and one or two pink pushbuttons...very very easy to use for her!!!
)
Then in the 1992 (yes it lasted so long!!) we gave it away but mom wanted a Sangiorgio again (Sangiorgio TEMA Export 9)... this was even because when she got married in the 1981 she bought a Sangiorgio too like her mother, the same Sangiorgio that is stil working in the basemente and which is the one I grew up with.
I still have saved from crashing that purple lid of Nana's first washing machine...no other parts apart from some remembers...
Lastly I remember it leak awfully from the outer tub and that was why we decided to buy a new one instead of fixing the old.
How many sudsy washing cycle...ah! The bio cycle lasted for ever!!! Hours and hours... and the temp wasvery very high!! sometimes you coul thint it was stil boiling!LOL
BYE!
Diomede
Of course! Those beautifull purple/pink chromas seem incredible to me like my Grandma's first washing machine... and it was not a Hotpoint but a Sangiorgio.
My Nanna was one of the first woman in her little town to own a washing machine...it was in the 1968, when she retired from working and felt too tired to go on doing the wash by hand and decided to buy a machine very very like you posted in the pics above! One shining big knob and one or two pink pushbuttons...very very easy to use for her!!!
)Then in the 1992 (yes it lasted so long!!) we gave it away but mom wanted a Sangiorgio again (Sangiorgio TEMA Export 9)... this was even because when she got married in the 1981 she bought a Sangiorgio too like her mother, the same Sangiorgio that is stil working in the basemente and which is the one I grew up with.
I still have saved from crashing that purple lid of Nana's first washing machine...no other parts apart from some remembers...
Lastly I remember it leak awfully from the outer tub and that was why we decided to buy a new one instead of fixing the old.
How many sudsy washing cycle...ah! The bio cycle lasted for ever!!! Hours and hours... and the temp wasvery very high!! sometimes you coul thint it was stil boiling!LOL
BYE!
Diomede
aquarius1984
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1 large shining knob and 1 or 2 pink push buttons? LMAO! Sorry if this hijacks the thread but ROFL !
mattywashboy
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trust you rob...trust you 
matchboxpaul
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I mentioned a mystery machine.....
in the 1973 design magazine listings - the model 1830.
Either Hotpoint span them a yarn (wanting to shift some theoretically obsolete models) or the writers got their wires crossed.
Model 1830 was definately not compatible with the Liberator dryer, for it was a second generation retrim of Hotpoints stunning model 1600 (the 1100rpm machine) which, I am sure, would sell for a small fortune if one appeared on ebay today.
Suddenly realising this got me thinking a bit (always a dangerous thing).
I have two colour shots of this style of machine but both look different.
The left hand shot is from the 1972 GEC Appliances brochure, which shows Hotpoint, English Electric and Morphy Richards stuff. The 1600 (and it definately is a 1600) shown here has a purely silver/metallic finish to doors and trim - no doubt about it, it is a 1600.
The second image is the superb shot, I think provided courtesy of Mike (apologies if wrong), which has been on the forum before. This shows a machine with a very light violet/mauve hue to it. I seem to remember others saying they thought it had purpley glass in the door.
The drawing is taken from a 1974 Which magazine and is of an 1830.
Am after opinions here - could the second image actually be a picture of a Liberatorised 1600 and, in actual fact be the 1973 model 1830?
Or is it simply the lighting conditions in the picture playing tricks with the silver door? Not being an avid photographer, I have no idea about such things.
Any ideas?
Cheers
Paul
in the 1973 design magazine listings - the model 1830.
Either Hotpoint span them a yarn (wanting to shift some theoretically obsolete models) or the writers got their wires crossed.
Model 1830 was definately not compatible with the Liberator dryer, for it was a second generation retrim of Hotpoints stunning model 1600 (the 1100rpm machine) which, I am sure, would sell for a small fortune if one appeared on ebay today.
Suddenly realising this got me thinking a bit (always a dangerous thing).
I have two colour shots of this style of machine but both look different.
The left hand shot is from the 1972 GEC Appliances brochure, which shows Hotpoint, English Electric and Morphy Richards stuff. The 1600 (and it definately is a 1600) shown here has a purely silver/metallic finish to doors and trim - no doubt about it, it is a 1600.
The second image is the superb shot, I think provided courtesy of Mike (apologies if wrong), which has been on the forum before. This shows a machine with a very light violet/mauve hue to it. I seem to remember others saying they thought it had purpley glass in the door.
The drawing is taken from a 1974 Which magazine and is of an 1830.
Am after opinions here - could the second image actually be a picture of a Liberatorised 1600 and, in actual fact be the 1973 model 1830?
Or is it simply the lighting conditions in the picture playing tricks with the silver door? Not being an avid photographer, I have no idea about such things.
Any ideas?
Cheers
Paul
The Electra GL2
We had one of these when I was growing up!!!
First auto in the family!!!!
This had EXACTLY the same programmes of the Hotpoint liberator, picutred and also an old Zanussi. (Check below the URL for more details of the instruction booklet I came across but did only have, according to the manual, 520rpmspin speed. Rinse level half way up the door and the "Dirty shirt" button changed all the synthetic programmes from short wash/ long pause agitation to long wash/short pause.... exaxtly the same as the cottons programmes. It made NO difference to the cottons programmes at all! (i know, I spent most of my weekends watching lol!!!)
Fab machine and loved the programmes!!!
Peter
We had one of these when I was growing up!!!
First auto in the family!!!!
This had EXACTLY the same programmes of the Hotpoint liberator, picutred and also an old Zanussi. (Check below the URL for more details of the instruction booklet I came across but did only have, according to the manual, 520rpmspin speed. Rinse level half way up the door and the "Dirty shirt" button changed all the synthetic programmes from short wash/ long pause agitation to long wash/short pause.... exaxtly the same as the cottons programmes. It made NO difference to the cottons programmes at all! (i know, I spent most of my weekends watching lol!!!)
Fab machine and loved the programmes!!!
Peter
rolls_rapide
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"One Shining Big Knob..."
Rob:
Like you, I had visions! LOL
Rob:
Like you, I had visions! LOL
aquarius1984
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Rolls
LOL! And there I was convincing my parents nothing of a sexual nature happens on here with members and their machines, eeek!
LOL! And there I was convincing my parents nothing of a sexual nature happens on here with members and their machines, eeek!
Yeah, Matt – “Trust you, Rob… Trust you”! Robert Stubbs! Calm yourself!
;-)
Goodness me, young man! However, I can see your (Hot)point…! hehe
Oh, and hi, Matt – I’ll hopefully see you later! Hi to everyone else, too!
I was quite happily reading through this thread all innocently… and then what happens…?! ;-)
Please, someone, tell me I haven’t said anything smutty in this message!
Lots of very interesting pictures and information here, guys – thank you. I’ve needed to brush up (a pun!) on my Liberator knowledge for quite some time.
Take care.
Regards,
Carl
;-)
Goodness me, young man!
However, I can see your (Hot)point…! hehe Oh, and hi, Matt
– I’ll hopefully see you later! Hi to everyone else, too! I was quite happily reading through this thread all innocently… and then what happens…?! ;-)
Please, someone, tell me I haven’t said anything smutty in this message!
Lots of very interesting pictures and information here, guys – thank you.
I’ve needed to brush up (a pun!) on my Liberator knowledge for quite some time. Take care.
Regards,
Carl
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Paul
Just noticed on your Hotpoint spreadsheet you have the spin speeds of the 18880 in a red box. I can let you get rid of another red box because my 18880 is a 800/500 spin speed machine.
I can only let you take my word for it as I havn't seen it written anywhere but it definately sounds like and looks like 800 when spinning. It dosen't have that slightly higher pitched sound to the 1000 spin Hotpoints of the time.
Hope that helps
Mark
Just noticed on your Hotpoint spreadsheet you have the spin speeds of the 18880 in a red box. I can let you get rid of another red box because my 18880 is a 800/500 spin speed machine.
I can only let you take my word for it as I havn't seen it written anywhere but it definately sounds like and looks like 800 when spinning. It dosen't have that slightly higher pitched sound to the 1000 spin Hotpoints of the time.
Hope that helps
Mark
