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Ariel futur powder in the nineties - in eco packets (£6.99 for 2.5 kg or £4.39 for 1.5 kg in Sainsbugs IIRC) though you could get little squat boxes to refill if you were lucky!! Do you remember the strange dosing device made of plastic but with a sort of fabric surround?

I forgave the dodgy spelling (assumed it was a tactical European compromise) cos the scent of that stuff was so bloody wonderful. I remember hot washes in the Hoover Ecologic using that with a dash of Lenor Alpine Fresh. As for Ariel futur (no `e') Alpine version - don't get me started.......heaven in a box (or a plastic eco refill......)
 
Compact powders

When Ariel Ultra came out at first, I think the dispensing 'Arielator' was an oval 'bottle' (hard plastic) attached to the vaned top.

Later on, the Arielator became those 'J-cloth' type bags around the plastic frame.

I liked those powders Ariel Ultra and Future. I wanted to like Lever's powders, but found they didn't clean quite as well as Ariel. Then the Persil Power shenanigans kicked off...
 
Hi Mike

Loved your review and pictures of Ariel Purclean. Your comments about the rinsing were really helpful too. It's interesting, isn't it, that some detergents start at nothing then froth as the water heats whilst others do the opposite.

I don't think even the best bio liquid alone would have removed the blood stain (unless seriously pre-treated) so it looks a fine product. I will be sure to pick up a bottle.

I've just finished a load of whites at 50 c - containing a mattress protector with about a 3 week old large blood stain. I used liquid but added Vanish powder as I usually do for whites. This essentially gives any liquid a performance boost to a level similar (or superior, in my opinion, though others have disagreed) to a `green box' powder.

The blood came out with no trace but it would not have done were it not for the Vanish (or any oxy bleach powder with TAED). Blood ideally needs enzymes to loosen it then oxy bleach to remove the colour of the stain.

Nice to hear from you Mike and I hope you are keeping well.

Nick
 
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Ah, the Ariel Liquid 'Arielette'!

I remember in the late 80's, Boddington's Beer ran mysterious adverts for a component of their tin cans. One of the supposed spoof names was 'the Boddle-ette'. Latching on to the Ariel paradigm.
 
"Blood ideally needs enzymes to loosen it then oxy bleach to remove the colour of the stain."

Yes, and no. There are several ways to get out blood stains, and while enzymes are a "modern day miracle", they aren't the only game in town.

For ages industrial/commercial laundries dealt with blood stains using nothing more than built soap powder,sodium metasilicate along with hot to near boiling water. Sodium perborate (oxygen bleach) likely was added to that mix.

After a cool or warm (temps between 80C to 100C) sluice cycle or pre-wash it was off to the races, and places turned out pretty immaculate work. Mind you this was used for hospital linens as well.

To this day commercial laundries rarely bother with enzymes for blood or other stain removal, but stick with chemicals instead. Alkaline substances (such as ammonia, chlorine bleach, sodium metasilicate, etc...) will attack protein including blood stains. Any remaining traces can be dealt with by using any of the common rust removers such as oxalic acid.

Problem with enzymes is they require long contact times to work properly. This often isn't an issue with domestic washing machines with their hours long cycles. OTOH a commercial laundry washer often completes a complete cycle in <40mins.

Detergents like Persil, Tide and other TOL with advanced enzyme cocktails are wasted in laundromat machines IMHO. Marks/stains that are easily removed in the Miele or Oko-Lavamat still remain after a trip though the SQ front loaders at local laundryette. But the latter completes a "Normal/Heavy" cycle in 30mins from start to finish. Meanwhile the AEG allows nearly an hour just for rinsing and spinning.
 
IIRC the first enzyme wash day products were mostly all pre-soaks; Axion, Bix, Bio-tex, etc... Some like Biz contained perborate bleach systems which added more kick to the mix as one could soak out more types of stains.

Of course the main thing about pre-soaking is what it had always been; if the wash was going to be done in hot or boiling water, that both killed enzymes in addition to setting the very stains many wished to remove.

Somewhere along the line detergents got enzymes (and oxygen bleaching systems) so the need for a separate product wasn't necessary. One could simply use the detergent as a pre-soak.

This and or the pre-soak products morphed into pre-wash or in wash additives where they largely remain today. Vanish, Tide In Wash Stain Treatment, Spray and Wash, the lot are mostly nothing more than enzyme based laundry aids with a bit of often things like bleaches added.

As noted above European/UK washing machines with cold fills that heated to whatever temp desired got rid of need to pre-soak for most part. The "profile wash" cycles allowed enzymes a chance to do their work before hot or boiling water temps were reached. Some washers came with "Bio" cycles or whatever that held water temps within desired range for a bit to give enzymes time to work.
 
One of our first biological pre-soak powders was Lever's 'Luvil'. Touted to prevent 'back again stains'.

Courtesy, of Youtube, BBC, and Lintas.

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Oooh, thanks for that. I've never seen those two adverts.

(And that khazi in the 2nd video needs a damn good clean!)
 

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