How cruel!

[lavamat78800]

A real crime, that´s so terrible <br

 

[lightedcontrols]

Thanks for posting this...

...but it's NOT just the fur industry that commits these awful crimes. Every time you buy Tide, Cascade, or most other P&G products, you're inadvertantly participating in curelty that's just as bad. Mark

 

[lavamat78800]

Sorry,

but how do I have to understand that with P&G and Co.??

 

[maggie~hamilton]

HOW IN GOD'S NAME COULD YOU POST SOMETHING SO GHASTLY AND HORRIFIC LIKE THIS WITHOUT A WARNING AS TO ITS CONTENTS? <br
ROBERT, PLEASE REMOVE THIS IMMEDIATELY <br

 

[lavamat78800]

Okay..

I think that there was a warning <br
A real crime, that´s so terrible! <br
Or isn´t that enough
I didn´t tell you that you have to watch this video <br
In my oppinion it wouldn´t be fair towards all animals if this would be removed <br
It isn´t okay how these animals are treated <br <br
Sorry, but I´m just doing somethin for animal-protection <br <br <br

 

[Unimatic1140]

What does the video show, since I'm a total animal lover, I don't know if I have the heart to watch it.

 

[panthera]

Charles,

Please stop shouting, it isn't necessary <br
Over here in Europe, we still use real words to describe real things
Torture is called Torture here, not "interegation.&quot
An idiot is called an "idiot" and not someone who is dim-light-bulb-challenged <br
So when a European sees something which bothers him (him being the pronoun which means both men and women in the English language when speaking of the general case), he posts it <br
Sure, the stuff is painful. Why do you think your government forbids publishing pictures of the coffins of all those poor young men and women who have been killed in Iraq <br
Because such images of reality mean something <br
Disclaimer: I am a vegetarian, but I wear leather and when in Finnland in January, you betcha I have been thankful for fur <br
The real question here is: Do you accept that the person who eats meat is on the same moral level as the butcher
I am not proud of it, but at least I admit to it <br
Sheesh, maybe Robert does need to publish a little guide to political correctness. Then we can all refer to paragraph number so and so when we snark at each other.

 

[seamusuk]

Fur

Robert
If you do watch it be prepared to be sick to the stomach afterwards - if anyone here wears Fur and you do watch it i really hope it makes you think !
Seamus

 

[lavamat78800]

I´m an animallover too and watched it completely, I was crying!

 

[maggie~hamilton]

NO, that was not enough. This could have been anything from a Halloween prank to God knows what else <br
You should have SPECIFICALLY stated, "WARNING - this link contains a video of helpless animals enduring unspeakable cruelty and torture.&quot <br
This video from PETA has NOTHING to do with how animals are mistreated, other than peripherally, in terms of them using it for their gain <br
I ==KNOW== how animals are mistreated. I know all too well. It happens all over the world in slaughterhouses, fur trapping, medical and cosmetic research, and of course animal fights for betting <br
Sitting here and watching this horrible video, so repulsive that it made me have to go and throw up, is not going to do ANYTHING to solve the problem. It's nothing less than sensationalism and, worse, exploitation of the suffering of animals to further PETA's agenda <br
Before spreading PETA's propaganda around like this, you really should do some reading-up on the organization and find out what they are really up to. You have to understand a fundamental reality about PETA -- they are less concerned with animal rights than they are with publicity, TV face time, and, of course, fund-raising <br
I have a very close friend who was formerly with the Los Angeles Animal Shelter. She, in her position as a media liaison, had absolutely nothing to do with the practices at the shelter. To say nothing of the fact that the shelter is so overtaxed because of lack of finds and horrendous excess of unwanted animals. They are not a perfect organization but they do they best that they can under the situation, and most of PETA's claims about them are exaggerated at best and whole-cloth fabrications at worst. But the point is that my friend had NO POWER to do anything about the problems with euthanizing animals that that they are faced with <br
She was so terrorized by people from PETA that she had to leave her job, sell her house, and move out of the state. Aside from threatening her life and her family, they were painting filthy statements on the front of her house, calling her in the middle of the night and leaving threatening messages, and driving up in her front yard in the middle of the night in a large and noisy 4-wheeler leaving huge muddy tire tracks in her lawn <br
So tell me how threatening and terrorizing an entire family who is innocent of nothing more than being employed by an institution who is a regular and popular target of PETA going to change anything? And how is what they did to her and her family any less cruel and horrific than what animals in the fur industry are suffering <br
I am as great an animal lover as anyone on this planet, as anyone who knows me knows VERY WELL. I even had a hard time dispatching the goddamned rats in my apartment because I did not want them to suffer. But I DO NOT AT ALL endorse the tactics of PETA, and other terrorist groups like it. And this stomach-turning, agonizing video, is just one more example of WHY <br
There ARE ways to bring about changes in the animal industries. Terrorism is not one of them. And, yes, publicly broadcasting such horror movies as these IS terrorism. Anyone who goes on-line can see them. Would you have some 4- or 5-year-old view this? What kind of impact would it have on such a young and impressionable little mind? How will inflicting that horror on an innocent child contribute ANYTHING toward solving the GLOBAL problem of animal cruelty <br
Thanks to your so kindly sharing this with us, I am going to have nightmares for weeks. And I really don't appreciate that at all

 

[oxydolfan1]

Silly question, but what do you suppose such things look like <br
The steak you eat is not fabricated by Whirlpool or TTI in some plant...that's why they are called SLAUGHTERhouses! <br
Panthera, your reference to the coffins is an apt one. In my writing, nothing has amazed me more than the willingness of so many in our nation to accept a totally sanitized version of war on their television screens, just because they don't want their "beautiful minds" upset <br
Lavamat, something you may be unaware of is that PETA is actually a pretty controversial organization itself here. I used to be supportive of their goals until I heard of one activist too many smearing paint on some random pedestrian, who was, after all, exercising their lawful right to wear fur <br
To me, that's street thuggishness, and PETA did not act sufficiently to denounce these crimes against humans, or distance themselves from credit for such activities, which only continued. To me, that's a huge jump from Chrissie Hynde handcuffing herself to a salesrack in the Gap, and, at that point, their tactics overrode any possible good PETA was actually doing, to promote animal-abuse issues <br
If I were to have posted "One Million Innocent Iraqis Slaughtered In Illegal Occupation", how many folks would have protested in such bold, stark letters for human lives <br
Good country, decent folks, right intentions....wrong priorities <br
(IMHO.)

 

[oxydolfan1]

"Thanks to your so kindly sharing this with us, I am going to have nightmares for weeks. And I really don't appreciate that at all.&quot <br
With all respect, isn't that a little bit of an extreme reaction <br
Perhaps the best thing to do would be to re-title this thread, and make reference to PETA in the subject line.

 

[maggie~hamilton]

No, it is not "too extreme" of a reaction from someone who loves and cherishes animals as much as I do. Seeing these poor helpless animals being TORTURED was no less upsetting to me than it would be to see humans enduring the same treatment <br