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Have a washing machine imported from a different contry? I want to have an Electrolux top loading washer imported. How would i go about that?
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The shipping costs alone are going to be in the 750-1000 US dollar range from, for instance, Germany.
Then you'll have to deal with any customs duties.
Then you'll have to set up the appropriate power supply - our machines draw 3.5kW at 230V 50Hz and the electronics are not all that keen on the saw-wave AC which anything but top notch equipment puts out.
Not trying to be pessimistic here, just noting the realities.
Now, if vintage will do - there are many such machines to be found already in the US. Try e-bay, craig's list and google.
The shipping costs alone are going to be in the 750-1000 US dollar range from, for instance, Germany.
Then you'll have to deal with any customs duties.
Then you'll have to set up the appropriate power supply - our machines draw 3.5kW at 230V 50Hz and the electronics are not all that keen on the saw-wave AC which anything but top notch equipment puts out.
Not trying to be pessimistic here, just noting the realities.
Now, if vintage will do - there are many such machines to be found already in the US. Try e-bay, craig's list and google.
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coolsville. thank you
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Just out of interest....
What machine and where from?
What machine and where from?
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I wanted a philps toploader. I think from Italy
From one who recently tried to have a very small appliance shipped from Germany (kaltmangel), am here to tell you under $1,000 USD would be a deal.
Depending upon the country, 20kg and 85cm long is about the most one can ship via postal system. Everything else must go by various shipping companies (same as FedEX and UPS), and there is where things get interesting. Moving large appliances really isn't something they do unless one ships the thing via freight, which is VERY dear indeed.
The item will have to be packed,crated, collected, and all sorts and manner of paperwork filled out, and perhaps export duties/tariffs. That just gets the thing to the plane/ship, once on US shores you could have customs charges as well.
Being as this may, there are services that ship large things from Europe, one can even order a BMW from Germany and have it shipped to the United States, the problem again is how much are you willing to pay?
Best method would be to get down on bended knee, like a gypsy in an airport and find someone moving house from Europe back to the US, and ask if they will allow your item in their freight. You can then arrange to pick up the item from them once they arrive on these shores.
Your other problem is going to be parts and or service for the unit. Some companies even though they have perhaps another product range in the US, won't give you the time of day if say you got an Electrolux unit shipped from Europe.
Unless the machine is a vintage model, make very sure the electronics and computer parts will work on two wire 220v/60hz rather than the standard EU one wire 220V/50hz. On timer machines things just run slighly faster at 60hz, however with modern electronics and computer systems things may run fast, very fast or not at all (sensing a fault).
Depending upon the country, 20kg and 85cm long is about the most one can ship via postal system. Everything else must go by various shipping companies (same as FedEX and UPS), and there is where things get interesting. Moving large appliances really isn't something they do unless one ships the thing via freight, which is VERY dear indeed.
The item will have to be packed,crated, collected, and all sorts and manner of paperwork filled out, and perhaps export duties/tariffs. That just gets the thing to the plane/ship, once on US shores you could have customs charges as well.
Being as this may, there are services that ship large things from Europe, one can even order a BMW from Germany and have it shipped to the United States, the problem again is how much are you willing to pay?
Best method would be to get down on bended knee, like a gypsy in an airport and find someone moving house from Europe back to the US, and ask if they will allow your item in their freight. You can then arrange to pick up the item from them once they arrive on these shores.
Your other problem is going to be parts and or service for the unit. Some companies even though they have perhaps another product range in the US, won't give you the time of day if say you got an Electrolux unit shipped from Europe.
Unless the machine is a vintage model, make very sure the electronics and computer parts will work on two wire 220v/60hz rather than the standard EU one wire 220V/50hz. On timer machines things just run slighly faster at 60hz, however with modern electronics and computer systems things may run fast, very fast or not at all (sensing a fault).
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it sounds so complicated. maybe i just will stick to u.s. machines till i can actually afford it
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In the end it wasn't really worth all the bother and expense.
Consider also the USD is down against the Euro, way down.
What you can do is set your Ebay settings to "Worldwide" and see what comes up for washing machines that a seller is offering to ship "Worldwide". Know of one eBay seller in the UK that ships spin driers all over, granted they are smaller than a washing machine.
In the end it wasn't really worth all the bother and expense.
Consider also the USD is down against the Euro, way down.
What you can do is set your Ebay settings to "Worldwide" and see what comes up for washing machines that a seller is offering to ship "Worldwide". Know of one eBay seller in the UK that ships spin driers all over, granted they are smaller than a washing machine.
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there's an idea
Another round about way, and probably just as expensive is to wait until one makes a trip to Europe, then see what there is to see.
Perhaps you can meet up with a European club member who can not only assist in finding what you seek, but can advise on how to get your item out of the country.
You really want to make sure of not only what you are paying for, but how it is crated/packed and shipped. A cardboard box and some package tape is not going to do the job.
Perhaps you can meet up with a European club member who can not only assist in finding what you seek, but can advise on how to get your item out of the country.
You really want to make sure of not only what you are paying for, but how it is crated/packed and shipped. A cardboard box and some package tape is not going to do the job.
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well yes i realize that. and when you say it it makes it sound like im going to smuggle like crack or something. lol
and im going to be touring europe this summer so
and im going to be touring europe this summer so
I have the same problem.
There are many US machines that I want to bring to Brazil. also, there's a brazilian front loader i want to send to Lynn (MA) as a gift, but the only idea i had about it was from a brazilian moving company and they asked 50 thousand dollars to bring me a vintage wringer. they said it's expensive because according to the brazillian legislation, that machine must come alone in a container (that's the most idiot law I've ever seen) and also, as the machine is used, it must pass by a 40 to 60 days quarentine period.
Also, i want to send detergent (and laundry SOAP) boxes to many colleagues and friends in the us and europe, but regular mail is slow, ridiculous and expensive here in Brazil. Do you have any tips?
There are many US machines that I want to bring to Brazil. also, there's a brazilian front loader i want to send to Lynn (MA) as a gift, but the only idea i had about it was from a brazilian moving company and they asked 50 thousand dollars to bring me a vintage wringer. they said it's expensive because according to the brazillian legislation, that machine must come alone in a container (that's the most idiot law I've ever seen) and also, as the machine is used, it must pass by a 40 to 60 days quarentine period.
Also, i want to send detergent (and laundry SOAP) boxes to many colleagues and friends in the us and europe, but regular mail is slow, ridiculous and expensive here in Brazil. Do you have any tips?
Thomas, didn't you say that you do import/export using Miami as a port? If you could get something to Miami, going either to or from, that should help you a whole lot. You'd have to have someone on that end who was pretty capable to help.
Yes, i do that, every day..
but there are full containers of computer components, laptop computers and other electronics, also dirt bikes and ATVs, all new and all comming to Paraguay (I work in a trade company).
The (huge) problem is when the good is too big to use UPS, FEDex or DHL and too small to fill a container.
I would love if i could put one or two machines inside one of our containers. It would come to my hands for free (that's what my boss said) but bring them to paraguay won't help too much. the distance between my office/warehouse and my apartment is only 5 minutes driving, but there's no way to drive across the borders with a washing machine without being noticed. Importations of used items are allowed only by sea ports or by air because of the health safety structure they have (biologists, technitians, etc).
Come on custom guys, it's a washing machine, not a container with a biological weapon.
but there are full containers of computer components, laptop computers and other electronics, also dirt bikes and ATVs, all new and all comming to Paraguay (I work in a trade company).
The (huge) problem is when the good is too big to use UPS, FEDex or DHL and too small to fill a container.
I would love if i could put one or two machines inside one of our containers. It would come to my hands for free (that's what my boss said) but bring them to paraguay won't help too much. the distance between my office/warehouse and my apartment is only 5 minutes driving, but there's no way to drive across the borders with a washing machine without being noticed. Importations of used items are allowed only by sea ports or by air because of the health safety structure they have (biologists, technitians, etc).
Come on custom guys, it's a washing machine, not a container with a biological weapon.
... other night a tin of Pringles potatoes was confiscated by customs.
I left my office by the end of the day and got a tin of pringles potatoes just to eat something, got a cab because it was raining and when i crossed the borders I was stopped by a custom agent because of the "imported" potatoes.
The agent gave me two options: Fill a 5 pages form, include copie of my ID and pay for the importation taxes and fees (50% of the price according to their list, not the tag or invoice price) Or let them confiscate and destroy "the goods".
The funny was, there was less than half can and during the discussion with the agent, I didn't realize i continued eating. i ate the other (10 or less) potatoes and i let him confiscate the empty can with a single potatoe inside it.
Anyway, the agent considered that a disrespect against an officer, registered me and during 30 days I couldn't enter the country carrying anything more than my wallet.
Because of some potatoes, they treated me like a drug or weapons dealer.
What would be if they had cought me with a washing machine? Electric chair? 2 minutes being forced to watch Kelly Ripa talking about stains and Tide? or maybe have to do all my laundry in a new brastemp?
Honestly, i would prefer electric chair.
I left my office by the end of the day and got a tin of pringles potatoes just to eat something, got a cab because it was raining and when i crossed the borders I was stopped by a custom agent because of the "imported" potatoes.
The agent gave me two options: Fill a 5 pages form, include copie of my ID and pay for the importation taxes and fees (50% of the price according to their list, not the tag or invoice price) Or let them confiscate and destroy "the goods".
The funny was, there was less than half can and during the discussion with the agent, I didn't realize i continued eating. i ate the other (10 or less) potatoes and i let him confiscate the empty can with a single potatoe inside it.
Anyway, the agent considered that a disrespect against an officer, registered me and during 30 days I couldn't enter the country carrying anything more than my wallet.
Because of some potatoes, they treated me like a drug or weapons dealer.
What would be if they had cought me with a washing machine? Electric chair? 2 minutes being forced to watch Kelly Ripa talking about stains and Tide? or maybe have to do all my laundry in a new brastemp?
Honestly, i would prefer electric chair.
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i freaking love pringles. but i kind of understand the officers point of view. i mean with all the terrorist and all tht jazz. i mean i am not into politics, but i know that there is something going on. so it was nothing aginst you, he was just doing his job. and come on with that kind of job, there is no f*cking around.
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Thomasortega, you eating the pringles the whole time was pretty funny. Is it possible that you could have someone on the other end pack your vintage machine in a way that would make it appear as if it was new? In other words get someone to pack the machine in the box of a new machine and make it look as if it was authentically packed by the factory, and then send it through the company that you work for. Then maybe when you take it across the border maybe you won't get as much heat. Just a thought.
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