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Hyacinth- had one as well. Maybe Violet could have a side by side.
How Much REFRIGERATOR Does a Home Need
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There is another white appliance under the counter, at the end of the part between the kitchen and the breakfast table. Can’t identify it but it might be a freezer or a dishwasher.
launderess
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"The first time I saw an American style SxS frig in a Brit broadcast was around 2002 in an episode of "Cash In the Attic" with Alister Appleton. "
Fitted kitchens in UK and Europe are just that, as such many for a variety of reasons chose small under counter fridges that fitted into cabinetry under counter.
Kitchens across the pond tend to be smaller, more compact and lacking light and counter space compared to what is found in USA. As such something would have to give if either say Hyacinth Bucket or Jean Mary Pargetter wanted even the (now more common) tall but narrow fridge/freezer.
As for rest of it in UK and across Europe for that matter kitchens tend to be far smaller than found in American homes. Not just flats but private homes as well. Latter is changing slowly over past few decades as new build private homes are growing larger, but still.
Other bits come down to cultural differences and household economy.
Energy costs in UK and Europe on balance are far more dear than most or all areas of USA. Fridges/freezers are some of the largest consumers of electricity in all households. As such it's not just price of fridge that comes into play but annual cost to run the thing.
Keep also in mind while gradually changing for UK and much of Europe when one leased a flat or bought a home often you had to fit out kitchen yourself; cabinets, appliances, the lot. Where money is no bother suppose buying huge fridge isn't an issue, but for others that may not be true.
Other cultural differences are fact many in UK and Europe still tend to cling to old ways. They purchase enough food for say a few days or week (including frozen) and thus don't see need for huge fridges or freezers. Americans are fond for some reason of laying in enough food to seemingly last duration, as if they'd just heard Hitler has invaded Poland or something.
Americans on average waste unconscionable amounts of food. They fill those large fridges or freezers with stuff that often sits and spoils or becomes damaged (freezer burn) thus must be thrown away. European way is far better, buy what you can consume readily and enjoy good fresh food.
https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/co...=The key reason for this,more energy to do so.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/interiors/home/best-fridge-freezers/
https://www.independent.co.uk/extra...ers-best-brand-quality-size-fit-a9417626.html
https://wilshirerefrigeration.com/w...European homes,where Europeans gather to eat.
Fitted kitchens in UK and Europe are just that, as such many for a variety of reasons chose small under counter fridges that fitted into cabinetry under counter.
Kitchens across the pond tend to be smaller, more compact and lacking light and counter space compared to what is found in USA. As such something would have to give if either say Hyacinth Bucket or Jean Mary Pargetter wanted even the (now more common) tall but narrow fridge/freezer.
As for rest of it in UK and across Europe for that matter kitchens tend to be far smaller than found in American homes. Not just flats but private homes as well. Latter is changing slowly over past few decades as new build private homes are growing larger, but still.
Other bits come down to cultural differences and household economy.
Energy costs in UK and Europe on balance are far more dear than most or all areas of USA. Fridges/freezers are some of the largest consumers of electricity in all households. As such it's not just price of fridge that comes into play but annual cost to run the thing.
Keep also in mind while gradually changing for UK and much of Europe when one leased a flat or bought a home often you had to fit out kitchen yourself; cabinets, appliances, the lot. Where money is no bother suppose buying huge fridge isn't an issue, but for others that may not be true.
Other cultural differences are fact many in UK and Europe still tend to cling to old ways. They purchase enough food for say a few days or week (including frozen) and thus don't see need for huge fridges or freezers. Americans are fond for some reason of laying in enough food to seemingly last duration, as if they'd just heard Hitler has invaded Poland or something.
Americans on average waste unconscionable amounts of food. They fill those large fridges or freezers with stuff that often sits and spoils or becomes damaged (freezer burn) thus must be thrown away. European way is far better, buy what you can consume readily and enjoy good fresh food.
https://energysavingtrust.org.uk/co...=The key reason for this,more energy to do so.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/interiors/home/best-fridge-freezers/
https://www.independent.co.uk/extra...ers-best-brand-quality-size-fit-a9417626.html
https://wilshirerefrigeration.com/w...European homes,where Europeans gather to eat.
launderess
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Both Jean Pargetter Hardcastle and Edina Monsoon lived in townhouses in Holland Park/Shepard's Bush.
Those homes were largely built during Victorian or Edwardian age (if not earlier and assuming weren't bombed out during WWII), thus were designed originally for age of servants. As such kitchens were located below stairs in basements which would have given more room.
It's never explained but at some point Jean Pargetter's kitchen was moved to first floor back room on other side of sitting room. This was and is common enough arrangement for older row homes both in UK and in USA. Rise of the "servant problem" post WWI and certainly after WWII meant middle class housewives had to deal with their own housework including cooking. Trudging up and down flights of stairs to prepare and get hot meals up to dining area on first floor is exhausting. So bring kitchen "upstairs" and problem is solved.
There isn't room in Jean Pargetter's comparatively small kitchen for really anything larger than under counter fridge. She could have had something a bit taller but that would have meant sacrificing already limited counter space.
Edina Monsoon (AbFab) OTOH left kitchen where it was (in basement) just fitted it out with latest mod cons including a large fridge.
Ed's kitchen is fitted out with not just an island with surface cook-top but also has a range, tons of cabinet and other storage space, dishwasher, etc...
Those homes were largely built during Victorian or Edwardian age (if not earlier and assuming weren't bombed out during WWII), thus were designed originally for age of servants. As such kitchens were located below stairs in basements which would have given more room.
It's never explained but at some point Jean Pargetter's kitchen was moved to first floor back room on other side of sitting room. This was and is common enough arrangement for older row homes both in UK and in USA. Rise of the "servant problem" post WWI and certainly after WWII meant middle class housewives had to deal with their own housework including cooking. Trudging up and down flights of stairs to prepare and get hot meals up to dining area on first floor is exhausting. So bring kitchen "upstairs" and problem is solved.
There isn't room in Jean Pargetter's comparatively small kitchen for really anything larger than under counter fridge. She could have had something a bit taller but that would have meant sacrificing already limited counter space.
Edina Monsoon (AbFab) OTOH left kitchen where it was (in basement) just fitted it out with latest mod cons including a large fridge.
Ed's kitchen is fitted out with not just an island with surface cook-top but also has a range, tons of cabinet and other storage space, dishwasher, etc...
launderess
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Previous lively discussion from archives that touched on differences between fridges in USA versus elsewhere.
https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREADM.cgi?83374
https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREADM.cgi?83374
bradfordwhite
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" They purchase enough food for say a few days or week (including frozen) and thus don't see need for huge fridges or freezers. Americans are fond for some reason of laying in enough food to seemingly last duration, as if they'd just heard Hitler has invaded Poland or something.
Americans on average waste unconscionable amounts of food. They fill those large fridges or freezers with stuff that often sits and spoils or becomes damaged (freezer burn) thus must be thrown away. European way is far better, buy what you can consume readily and enjoy good fresh food."
Yes, exactly. And eating highly processed foods equates to a bad diet. One is eating old food that has diminished vitamins and nutrients. And they are eating too much. So food has become, for those hoarders, a burdon, a liability, a financial drain, and an energy drain.
They spend $$ for membership clubs to buy the unnecessary amounts of food, they spend $$ on kitchens that are over sized and over priced, the spend $$ on energy costs to keep all that stuff afloat, they also spend their youth and health juggling all this while their health declines due to the likes of diabetes. It's sad and pathetic. There is no food insecurity. People need to accept that.
I stopped at a rest stop along the highway two days ago to make a phone call. Most of the people parked.... it was like looking at a scene from night of the living dead. It was mostly 60+ y.o. people vastly over weight, hobbling about slowly in their plus plus plus sized clothing. Most with terrible posture.
I stand by my assertion that if one wants to get in shape and stay healthy= get a small refrigerator and if you can eliminate your freezer. Primarily eat fresh. That is class A food.
Just like with an all electric house, it is the best. Top of the line. I expect the best. No poor mans fuel of coal or gas for me and very limited processed foods.
Americans on average waste unconscionable amounts of food. They fill those large fridges or freezers with stuff that often sits and spoils or becomes damaged (freezer burn) thus must be thrown away. European way is far better, buy what you can consume readily and enjoy good fresh food."
Yes, exactly. And eating highly processed foods equates to a bad diet. One is eating old food that has diminished vitamins and nutrients. And they are eating too much. So food has become, for those hoarders, a burdon, a liability, a financial drain, and an energy drain.
They spend $$ for membership clubs to buy the unnecessary amounts of food, they spend $$ on kitchens that are over sized and over priced, the spend $$ on energy costs to keep all that stuff afloat, they also spend their youth and health juggling all this while their health declines due to the likes of diabetes. It's sad and pathetic. There is no food insecurity. People need to accept that.
I stopped at a rest stop along the highway two days ago to make a phone call. Most of the people parked.... it was like looking at a scene from night of the living dead. It was mostly 60+ y.o. people vastly over weight, hobbling about slowly in their plus plus plus sized clothing. Most with terrible posture.
I stand by my assertion that if one wants to get in shape and stay healthy= get a small refrigerator and if you can eliminate your freezer. Primarily eat fresh. That is class A food.
Just like with an all electric house, it is the best. Top of the line. I expect the best. No poor mans fuel of coal or gas for me and very limited processed foods.
launderess
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You also have to take into account Americans on average for host of reasons refrigerate things many in Europe do not.
In USA milk is almost universally refrigerated. Not always in Europe.
https://www.rd.com/article/why-americans-refrigerate-milk-but-europeans-dont/
Eggs:
https://www.latimes.com/food/dailyd...-need-to-refrigerate-eggs-20140714-story.html
https://www.thehealthy.com/food/why-europeans-dont-refrigerate-eggs/
It is interesting to see what households around world keep in their fridges. Americans due to often large size of theirs tend to put things in that really could be left out, especially if consumed quickly.
https://www.insider.com/refrigerators-food-around-the-world-2018-11
In USA milk is almost universally refrigerated. Not always in Europe.
https://www.rd.com/article/why-americans-refrigerate-milk-but-europeans-dont/
Eggs:
https://www.latimes.com/food/dailyd...-need-to-refrigerate-eggs-20140714-story.html
https://www.thehealthy.com/food/why-europeans-dont-refrigerate-eggs/
It is interesting to see what households around world keep in their fridges. Americans due to often large size of theirs tend to put things in that really could be left out, especially if consumed quickly.
https://www.insider.com/refrigerators-food-around-the-world-2018-11
bradfordwhite
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#33
Yes, Edina (Ed-dweena) Monsoon is another great example.
When the show started in the early 90s the frig shown in your picture was her frig. and a generous frig/freezer at the time for that matter.
By the end of the run she had this very un-British commercial frig and an unpainted SxS.
such a turn off.
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As an avid connoisseur of house plans and going to Open House tours since I was say ten years old, I was very surprised the first time I saw a new build house in the UK and the kitchen had no cabinets. I get it though. Cabinets are after all just furniture and the trend of including kitchen cabinets in the U.S. is about 80 years old. Don't know where it came from but, it's rather biased and assuming of each occupant. It's a lot of waste when people move in and have to rip out the old kitchen. We see it all the time.
Yes, Edina (Ed-dweena) Monsoon is another great example.
When the show started in the early 90s the frig shown in your picture was her frig. and a generous frig/freezer at the time for that matter.
By the end of the run she had this very un-British commercial frig and an unpainted SxS.
such a turn off.
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As an avid connoisseur of house plans and going to Open House tours since I was say ten years old, I was very surprised the first time I saw a new build house in the UK and the kitchen had no cabinets. I get it though. Cabinets are after all just furniture and the trend of including kitchen cabinets in the U.S. is about 80 years old. Don't know where it came from but, it's rather biased and assuming of each occupant. It's a lot of waste when people move in and have to rip out the old kitchen. We see it all the time.
bradfordwhite
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#36
LOL. I'm "guilty" of that and no I won't change. Under the rare circumstance I would buy eggs or milk or cheese they would have to be refrigerated.
I was watching a Brit Youtuber that I've been sub'd to for several years now and he was filming his shopping at a Aldi's or Sainsburys somewhere in north London and the eggs were just sitting out on the shelf. I cringed so bad. lol. "Charlie, don't buy those eggs! They've been sitting out. Probably contaminated with salmonella now." LOL
But yeah, if they're consumed within a reasonable amount of time.... it obviously works to not have to refrig them.
Of course, even in the frig.... I've had eggs go bad. They had only been in there for a couple of months. I cracked it open and it was all black inside. But unless I have a recipe calling for eggs I don't eat them. Too much cholesterol.
LOL. I'm "guilty" of that and no I won't change. Under the rare circumstance I would buy eggs or milk or cheese they would have to be refrigerated.
I was watching a Brit Youtuber that I've been sub'd to for several years now and he was filming his shopping at a Aldi's or Sainsburys somewhere in north London and the eggs were just sitting out on the shelf. I cringed so bad. lol. "Charlie, don't buy those eggs! They've been sitting out. Probably contaminated with salmonella now." LOL
But yeah, if they're consumed within a reasonable amount of time.... it obviously works to not have to refrig them.
Of course, even in the frig.... I've had eggs go bad. They had only been in there for a couple of months. I cracked it open and it was all black inside. But unless I have a recipe calling for eggs I don't eat them. Too much cholesterol.
Eggs
The differences between the US and Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.nl/why-...urope-and-the-best-places-to-store-them/[this post was last edited: 7/23/2023-09:21]
The differences between the US and Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.nl/why-...urope-and-the-best-places-to-store-them/[this post was last edited: 7/23/2023-09:21]
launderess
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Early on American kitchens were like those in Europe. Storage was usually planks or some sort of shelving suspended by rope or whatever.
Arrival of Hoosier cabinets in 1890 changed all this. These were medium to large sized pieces of furniture for kitchens. They offered storage and some work surface area. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier_cabinet
By 1930's or 1940's wide spread arrival of electricity along with refrigerators and other appliances began to influence design of American kitchens.
Modular cabinets began to appear though not always mounted to walls. They were made usually of metal and often had porcelain tops.
Post WWII if not bit before you started to see modular cabinets (usually made from metal) both mounted high on walls well as along floor what created counter space. Post war era in USA saw a surplus of various metals which manufactures quickly put to use in kitchens with all those cabinets.
Modern NSW kitchen circa 1950-55
Housing supply being what it was post WWII USA no small number of married women found themselves saddle with older homes with kitchens from another era.
Note this place as noted above has minimal cabinets, thus also very little counter space. You do have that huge area in center of kitchen for a decent sized table, so that's something anyway.
Arrival of Hoosier cabinets in 1890 changed all this. These were medium to large sized pieces of furniture for kitchens. They offered storage and some work surface area. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoosier_cabinet
By 1930's or 1940's wide spread arrival of electricity along with refrigerators and other appliances began to influence design of American kitchens.
Modular cabinets began to appear though not always mounted to walls. They were made usually of metal and often had porcelain tops.
Post WWII if not bit before you started to see modular cabinets (usually made from metal) both mounted high on walls well as along floor what created counter space. Post war era in USA saw a surplus of various metals which manufactures quickly put to use in kitchens with all those cabinets.
Modern NSW kitchen circa 1950-55
Housing supply being what it was post WWII USA no small number of married women found themselves saddle with older homes with kitchens from another era.
Note this place as noted above has minimal cabinets, thus also very little counter space. You do have that huge area in center of kitchen for a decent sized table, so that's something anyway.
cfz2882
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Italy,~ 1980 fridge size
Italy had a bad earthquake about 1980,and refrigerators could often be seen in the rubble of wrecked buildings-was impressed the fridges were small vs what I was used to in the US.
Italy had a bad earthquake about 1980,and refrigerators could often be seen in the rubble of wrecked buildings-was impressed the fridges were small vs what I was used to in the US.
#37 Touring houses for sale is the best fun! But whilst in the UK you must have looked around properties that were quite early in the build process because it is virtually unheard of for a property to be sold without a kitchen. In fact in the UK a house is not legally mortgageable without a functional kitchen and bathroom so on the rare occasions these are not present the house would only be available to a cash buyer. Buyers of new builds are able to choose their own cabinetry, worktops and tiling if they purchase the house “off plan” or early in the build.
bradfordwhite
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#42
See I was wondering if things have changed. I think the first time I saw a Brit house plan for a new build was about 15 years back. Back then the kitchen might have shown a sink but there were no cabinets. Also the electrical plans were sparse. There wasn't always a bathroom on every floor and the garage rarely had a door into the house.
This is a current plan being offered by Barratt homes. Still no door from the garage but it's got cabinets. I wonder when that started becoming "a thing".
Look at how thick those exterior walls are. I think it's a code requirement that all homes have a masonry exterior in the UK, am I correct?
I really want to see a house in the UK with vynil dutch lap siding, maybe a subdivision of double and triple wide mobile homes, on 3 acre lots. Any chance of that? LOL
https://www.barratthomes.co.uk/new-homes/dev001449-the-brooks,-barrow/plot-165-h7863165/
See I was wondering if things have changed. I think the first time I saw a Brit house plan for a new build was about 15 years back. Back then the kitchen might have shown a sink but there were no cabinets. Also the electrical plans were sparse. There wasn't always a bathroom on every floor and the garage rarely had a door into the house.
This is a current plan being offered by Barratt homes. Still no door from the garage but it's got cabinets. I wonder when that started becoming "a thing".
Look at how thick those exterior walls are. I think it's a code requirement that all homes have a masonry exterior in the UK, am I correct?
I really want to see a house in the UK with vynil dutch lap siding, maybe a subdivision of double and triple wide mobile homes, on 3 acre lots. Any chance of that? LOL
https://www.barratthomes.co.uk/new-homes/dev001449-the-brooks,-barrow/plot-165-h7863165/
seedub
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Reply #31
I had guessed that the other white box was a second refrigerator exactly like the other one. It messes with my head that the set decorators and props master gave the Buckets this luxury kitchen and then didn't give them one upsize fridge-freezer a la "Ab Fab" or "Notting Hill."
I had guessed that the other white box was a second refrigerator exactly like the other one. It messes with my head that the set decorators and props master gave the Buckets this luxury kitchen and then didn't give them one upsize fridge-freezer a la "Ab Fab" or "Notting Hill."
Hyacinth's kitchen
I have only seen just a part of it. It looked different than the fridge in the corner. But I was unable to identify it.
I have only seen just a part of it. It looked different than the fridge in the corner. But I was unable to identify it.
launderess
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Mr. and Mrs. Richard Bucket were decidedly middle class and their home in Coventry reflected this rather well. Richard Bucket was a civil servant (on local council) but didn't have a title nor was in same league (or pay grade) as say Sir Humphrey Applebee.
House used for outdoor next door location shots in KUA was recently for sale and we can see how place is laid out.
In keeping with often dear housing costs in UK the home might seem compact by American standards, but many in England make do. In this instance owners took down wall between dining area and kitchen to make an open floor plan. Notice they do have a cooker (range) but fridge still is compact under counter model.
Hyacinths' house differs in that it was single floor with all bedrooms on same ground floor level. This would be another reason why home (and that kitchen) seems cramped by American standards. To fit two bedrooms (assuming Sheridan had one of his own), sitting room, dining room and kitchen all on one floor in a comparatively small home takes work.
Whole joke about Hyacinth Bucket was her being decidedly middle class (from a low or working class background) desperately trying to be something she wasn't; upper class. To her credit (and that of set designers) Mrs. Bucket did her best to create some sort of illusion of upper class via furniture and furnishings, but that's far as things went.
Edwina Monsoon OTOH was quite well off, this both in her own right due to her businesses and fact she was bleeding both her ex-husbands dry for years in maintenance and child support payments.
Hyacinth Bucket would never have moved to Shepard's Bush (Holland Park) back when it was affordable to do so as area didn't have status and cachet she craved. Eds bought early when prices were low (or as Saffy says "before everyone else moved here), so she got a bargain. But remember again Eds had both of her ex husbands; Marshall and Justin paying for that house. Well until they found out and cut her off.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/propert...featured-Keeping-Appearances-sale-Zoopla.html
House used for outdoor next door location shots in KUA was recently for sale and we can see how place is laid out.
In keeping with often dear housing costs in UK the home might seem compact by American standards, but many in England make do. In this instance owners took down wall between dining area and kitchen to make an open floor plan. Notice they do have a cooker (range) but fridge still is compact under counter model.
Hyacinths' house differs in that it was single floor with all bedrooms on same ground floor level. This would be another reason why home (and that kitchen) seems cramped by American standards. To fit two bedrooms (assuming Sheridan had one of his own), sitting room, dining room and kitchen all on one floor in a comparatively small home takes work.
Whole joke about Hyacinth Bucket was her being decidedly middle class (from a low or working class background) desperately trying to be something she wasn't; upper class. To her credit (and that of set designers) Mrs. Bucket did her best to create some sort of illusion of upper class via furniture and furnishings, but that's far as things went.
Edwina Monsoon OTOH was quite well off, this both in her own right due to her businesses and fact she was bleeding both her ex-husbands dry for years in maintenance and child support payments.
Hyacinth Bucket would never have moved to Shepard's Bush (Holland Park) back when it was affordable to do so as area didn't have status and cachet she craved. Eds bought early when prices were low (or as Saffy says "before everyone else moved here), so she got a bargain. But remember again Eds had both of her ex husbands; Marshall and Justin paying for that house. Well until they found out and cut her off.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/propert...featured-Keeping-Appearances-sale-Zoopla.html
Bradford...
It sounds like you are eating healthy, but are you getting enough fiber? You seem to be rather cranky.
It sounds like you are eating healthy, but are you getting enough fiber? You seem to be rather cranky.
bradfordwhite
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I don't think we ever saw more than Elizabeth and Emmet's Lounge and front garden.
How many American viewers would view the tuck-under counter refrigerator in this home with a full size inground pool and four bedrooms as Inadequate?
That's how classist refrigerators and perhaps kitchen appliances in general currently are. It doesn't matter if the furniture in the living room is all particle board vs. a solid wood antique Edwardian piece; no it's about the kitchen appliances?
strange. And I'm not playing.
Can we spot the apparently embarrassing dishwasher that needs to be hidden away with a fake cabinet front?
Given how quiet most of todays dishwashers are I would be proud to have one.
How many American viewers would view the tuck-under counter refrigerator in this home with a full size inground pool and four bedrooms as Inadequate?
That's how classist refrigerators and perhaps kitchen appliances in general currently are. It doesn't matter if the furniture in the living room is all particle board vs. a solid wood antique Edwardian piece; no it's about the kitchen appliances?
strange. And I'm not playing.
Can we spot the apparently embarrassing dishwasher that needs to be hidden away with a fake cabinet front?
Given how quiet most of todays dishwashers are I would be proud to have one.
How much refrigerator space do you need for convenient energy efficient living?
I would recommend about 8 ft.³ per adult maybe another five for each child in the house unless of course like we do you can and freeze a lot of vegetables and fruits and also buy meats etc. in bulk, then you can double the amounts easily. It is far cheaper to run an energy efficient large refrigerator than to drive a car even an electric car to the grocery store very often.
Keep in My It is far cheaper to run an energy efficient large refrigerator then to drive a car even an electric car to the grocery store very often.
Keep in mind that small refrigerators use a lot more energy per cubic foot of space and they generally do not keep is even a temperature.
, that kitchen in reply number 48 would never work for me at 6 feet tall and my partner at 6-4 there’s no way I’m going to bend over every time I want something out of a refrigerator same goes for the oven. The oven needs to be up high . I would like to have a Higher Dishwashers well I haven’t managed to do that yet.
I do like that they put in a wine rack for the children though that’s really cute lol
John
I would recommend about 8 ft.³ per adult maybe another five for each child in the house unless of course like we do you can and freeze a lot of vegetables and fruits and also buy meats etc. in bulk, then you can double the amounts easily. It is far cheaper to run an energy efficient large refrigerator than to drive a car even an electric car to the grocery store very often.
Keep in My It is far cheaper to run an energy efficient large refrigerator then to drive a car even an electric car to the grocery store very often.
Keep in mind that small refrigerators use a lot more energy per cubic foot of space and they generally do not keep is even a temperature.
, that kitchen in reply number 48 would never work for me at 6 feet tall and my partner at 6-4 there’s no way I’m going to bend over every time I want something out of a refrigerator same goes for the oven. The oven needs to be up high . I would like to have a Higher Dishwashers well I haven’t managed to do that yet.
I do like that they put in a wine rack for the children though that’s really cute lol
John
When I buy a new refrigerator....
.....I have these requirements;
Top freezer
No ice maker or water dispenser
Largest capacity top freezer model
Glass shelves
Left hinged doors
Black
Made in U.S. (probably impossible now....)
Not that I buy refrigerators THAT often.
Coldspot (my parents bought) 1968-1987 (coppertone with wire shelves)
GE ran from 1987-2011.
Whirlpool 2011-still going strong.
.....I have these requirements;
Top freezer
No ice maker or water dispenser
Largest capacity top freezer model
Glass shelves
Left hinged doors
Black
Made in U.S. (probably impossible now....)
Not that I buy refrigerators THAT often.
Coldspot (my parents bought) 1968-1987 (coppertone with wire shelves)
GE ran from 1987-2011.
Whirlpool 2011-still going strong.
I remember my grandparents going to the grocery store almost every day in the 80's and 90's. It seemed like waste considering they had a full size SXS refrigerator and rather large stand up freezer in the garage along with a 1950's Coldspot that was the back fridge for parties and holidays. Maybe they just wanted to get out of the house or something. I go once a week.
Something else you find in old, vintage home-remodeling books, are an extra-wide side by side, ands even an upright freezer placed next to an all-fridge fridge...
A garage sale I'd gone to, decades ago, had a very wide RCA Whirlpool side by side in the very garage it was held in, in FAWN, as a matter of fact...
I wish I could have created a conversation of what was an unused second fridge that wasn't for sale, only holding up a wall behind the check out table, as it would have been neat to see it open, and lack of humming from it meant that it didn't work...
-- Dave
A garage sale I'd gone to, decades ago, had a very wide RCA Whirlpool side by side in the very garage it was held in, in FAWN, as a matter of fact...
I wish I could have created a conversation of what was an unused second fridge that wasn't for sale, only holding up a wall behind the check out table, as it would have been neat to see it open, and lack of humming from it meant that it didn't work...
-- Dave
bpetersxx
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yeah it depends on the circumstances
I have finally a refrigerator that I can use
I can put all my stuff I want to put into it now
Reply 49
hopefully John is right as I am not sure if the refrigerator I have will save energy
I was using an Igloo compact ref
no freezer space and limited refrigerator space
and it leaks all over the place
This GE will defrost automatically into the defrost pan that is on the condenser coils on the bottom
I have finally a refrigerator that I can use
I can put all my stuff I want to put into it now
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hopefully John is right as I am not sure if the refrigerator I have will save energy
I was using an Igloo compact ref
no freezer space and limited refrigerator space
and it leaks all over the place
This GE will defrost automatically into the defrost pan that is on the condenser coils on the bottom
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