Please post pics
Hi Cameron we’d love to see any pictures.
How did your bearing change go ?
Richard
Hi Cameron we’d love to see any pictures.
How did your bearing change go ?
Richard
How much would you be willing to pay for a Keymatic 3224/3226 door seal?
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>> Well unfortunately I’d say it’s bad news, the quote is ridiculously high... £10,000 plus, and that’s just for the tooling quotation and not including production 
I know that's not the number you were hoping for, but I can see how it could cost that much.
To reproduce that part, someone has to spend time taking the measurements and creating a 3D model, then design a multi-part mold that could work with their injection machines, create the part, and allow it to be released. Then that mold has to be created, which for production shops would mean programming and CNC milling of multiple large blocks of aluminum, with some post processing and fixturing as well. Perhaps also a QC check and some trial runs at producing parts. So you're paying for time and materials, across several specialities.
How big is this seal? (approximate diameter when laying flat)
It could be that the size drives up the cost as well.
I know that's not the number you were hoping for, but I can see how it could cost that much.
To reproduce that part, someone has to spend time taking the measurements and creating a 3D model, then design a multi-part mold that could work with their injection machines, create the part, and allow it to be released. Then that mold has to be created, which for production shops would mean programming and CNC milling of multiple large blocks of aluminum, with some post processing and fixturing as well. Perhaps also a QC check and some trial runs at producing parts. So you're paying for time and materials, across several specialities.
How big is this seal? (approximate diameter when laying flat)
It could be that the size drives up the cost as well.
hoover3224
Active member
Here’s some pics to have a nosy at.
The wiring was in a right old state, literally was a total deathtrap!
Heat shrink has become my best friend!
Sorry there’s no particular order!
Cameron
The wiring was in a right old state, literally was a total deathtrap!
Heat shrink has become my best friend!
Sorry there’s no particular order!
Cameron
slowspin66
Well-known member
Brilliant work
What a labour of love this machine has been. Is it the first one you’ve done as you seem to have made brilliant progress quickly What’s left to do apart from the rebuilding ? Looks very complicated .....??
Where are you with the door boots ???
Keep us all posted with your endeavours best wishes Darren
What a labour of love this machine has been. Is it the first one you’ve done as you seem to have made brilliant progress quickly What’s left to do apart from the rebuilding ? Looks very complicated .....??
Where are you with the door boots ???
Keep us all posted with your endeavours best wishes Darren
Keymatic
Great work Cameron, a most complicated machine, even down to the springs n rollers engagement. Heatshrink seems to be the order of the day at the moment ha ha..We found these three things have been our best mates in retoring these washers ha ha...
All The Best for the restoration !!
Great work Cameron, a most complicated machine, even down to the springs n rollers engagement. Heatshrink seems to be the order of the day at the moment ha ha..We found these three things have been our best mates in retoring these washers ha ha...
All The Best for the restoration !!
hoover3224
Active member
Hey Mike
I must try that ‘Sticks like Sh*T’ seen it before but never got round to getting any.
I have used JB Weld to stick the springy seal that goes around the bearing housing for that mates with the drum seal.
Sorry to be a pain but I don’t suppose you have a rough idea of the dimensions of the door boot? I’ve been in contact with a company in China who say they can do it but would like to know the over all size.
Sadly I can’t give them the dimensions as I’ve yet to receive the boot that Chris (Gizmo) sent me back from walkers rubber. When dismantling it I noticed the wedges pressure pads and grub screws are missing altogether, and they’ll stay that way, it seemed happy enough without them anyways lol
Best wishes
Cameron
I must try that ‘Sticks like Sh*T’ seen it before but never got round to getting any.
I have used JB Weld to stick the springy seal that goes around the bearing housing for that mates with the drum seal.
Sorry to be a pain but I don’t suppose you have a rough idea of the dimensions of the door boot? I’ve been in contact with a company in China who say they can do it but would like to know the over all size.
Sadly I can’t give them the dimensions as I’ve yet to receive the boot that Chris (Gizmo) sent me back from walkers rubber. When dismantling it I noticed the wedges pressure pads and grub screws are missing altogether, and they’ll stay that way, it seemed happy enough without them anyways lol
Best wishes
Cameron
hoover3224
Active member
Hi Darren
Yep, my first ever go with a Keymatic, never even seen one before getting this.
It’s a beautiful beast but so over engineered, everything is so mechanical. I just love taking things apart and learning how they work, this has been really fun to work on but also very stressful, found myself
swearing at it numerous times
As mentioned to mike in the above message, I’m in touch with a company in China, who I believe actually makes boots for newer machines so hopefully they can advise. I’m thinking it’ll be much cheaper being designed and made in China. Far too expensive for them to be made in the UK it seems!
I’ll just live and hope something comes of it all.
Thanks
Cam
Yep, my first ever go with a Keymatic, never even seen one before getting this.
It’s a beautiful beast but so over engineered, everything is so mechanical. I just love taking things apart and learning how they work, this has been really fun to work on but also very stressful, found myself
swearing at it numerous times
As mentioned to mike in the above message, I’m in touch with a company in China, who I believe actually makes boots for newer machines so hopefully they can advise. I’m thinking it’ll be much cheaper being designed and made in China. Far too expensive for them to be made in the UK it seems!
I’ll just live and hope something comes of it all.
Thanks
Cam
slowspin66
Well-known member
Keep us all posted
Your doing a great job there . It looks so complicated . Im hoping you progress the door boots . Keep posting the pictures it’s a really good thread . Darren
Your doing a great job there . It looks so complicated . Im hoping you progress the door boots . Keep posting the pictures it’s a really good thread . Darren
Reproductions
I just had some vintage stove knobs reproduced a while ago. It was crazy expensive. You would have to charge like $500 each to make it work. You might sell 10-20 in your lifetime.
I just had some vintage stove knobs reproduced a while ago. It was crazy expensive. You would have to charge like $500 each to make it work. You might sell 10-20 in your lifetime.
hoover3224
Active member
Hi guys
Finally got a new update from China regarding the door boots.
Been in constant discussions with them and the decided prices is £3000 to have a professional drawing done, mould made and of course production itself. That took some negotiating, believe me it was going to be considerably more. This would work out about £200 each (probably too high I guess)
Additionally there is a cost of £35 per individual boot, however I’m willing to cover this for up to 15 of them.
Not sure if this is still too much for you guys to contemplate? I’m personally happy enough, desperate to get my baby watertight!
That’s the latest anyways.
Best wishes
Cameron
Finally got a new update from China regarding the door boots.
Been in constant discussions with them and the decided prices is £3000 to have a professional drawing done, mould made and of course production itself. That took some negotiating, believe me it was going to be considerably more. This would work out about £200 each (probably too high I guess)
Additionally there is a cost of £35 per individual boot, however I’m willing to cover this for up to 15 of them.
Not sure if this is still too much for you guys to contemplate? I’m personally happy enough, desperate to get my baby watertight!
That’s the latest anyways.
Best wishes
Cameron
boots
Can you send us the individual specsheet by Email for dimensions etc and confirm what type of material and colour etc and will have a discuss !!
Thanks for keeping the ball rolling, wasnt sure with not hearing from you, !!
Cheeers, Mike
Can you send us the individual specsheet by Email for dimensions etc and confirm what type of material and colour etc and will have a discuss !!
Thanks for keeping the ball rolling, wasnt sure with not hearing from you, !!
Cheeers, Mike
