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Lest anyone should think I based my previously stated opinion about CR's objectivity on one incident alone, I have another example of bias from the same period which effectively cemented my negative view of them. In 1997 when I placed the order for my new truck there had actually been three vehicles I was considering. The Dodge Neon, the Dodge Intrepid, and the three quarter ton Diesel Dodge Ram. The decision largely hinged on whether or not I could run Jet A fuel in the truck, and when it turned out that I could use it strait with no additives I went with the diesel. Had I not been able to run it my choice would have been between the compact fun to drive economy car or a full sized comfortable and roomy sedan. I was leaning heavily towards the compact Neon and read CR's opinions with interest. One statement jumped out at me immediately as bias laden swill. Regarding the Neon's mileage hey had written "fuel economy is unremarkable for a car in this class." I found that wording a bit odd, so I went ahead and looked up the fuel economy of a number of other small cars, and even though the Neon got better mileage than many of them, not one of those other cars had been saddled with the term "unremarkable."

They then went on to criticize the noisy cabin at highway speed, which is something I hadn't noticed when I had rented one to play around with. Again I did a little comparison. Another automotive magazine had done a more thorough examination of the Neon and other small cars, which included a decibel meter mounted in the cabin at head level by the drivers seat. After looking up the reading for the Neon(I can't for the life of me remember what it was) I compared it to other small cars and found that it compared rather well, being better than some and not as good as others. But I was surprised to see that it beat out the Acura Integra which had measured several decibels louder. Armed with this new info I went back to see what CR had to say about the Intergra. They had loved the car and had made no comment at all about noise in the cabin. So in spite of what others might believe(which they are free to do) I believe the folks at CR begin their examinations burdened with bias, and consequently seek to confirm their biases through the testing they do. This is not a scientific way to go about things and cannot help but lead to skewed results, which is why I no longer trust their views.
 
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The Super-Searchilator that was present on this site forever is now only for upgraded members.

 

I have found the Google search to not always deliver appropriate results, or sometimes repeat results (unlike the Searchilator). That said, I think it is perfectly fine for non-upgraded members. The powerful Searchilator obviously takes effort to implement, and should therefore only be reserved for the upgraded members.

Sometimes, people may spend lots of time looking for information, but cannot find what they want to hear. Perhaps, the person found a discussion topic, but thought that information might have changed since the most recent posts, or they are looking for even more information themselves than they can find.

 

Often, I find myself looking everywhere for some information, not find it, but find an easy solution when posting on the forum.

 

Personally, I think it is slightly inappropriate to rush in with snarling teeth when referring to another recent topic. Perhaps the poster is unaware of the search feature, isn't sure how to use it, or didn't find what they wanted. I can't really comment, but I'm sure there is a perfectly valid reason why this thread was posted.
 
Hey Tom no intent to set you off. I am sorry. But we will have to agree to disagree on this one." but I do expect people in the information age when Google has become a verb to do a little bit of searching. We are not freaking baby birds who can't do anything more than sit with open mouths and cry for input. Having conversations is fine, but they can be had in extant fora." sheesh.

"I do expect".  "Google is a verb". "We are not freaking baby birds...".  Really?  

 
 
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As I said on another forum on this site bout CR-I let my subscription run out and WILL NOT renew it.Skimpy,biased reviews,Too much reviews on computers and cell phones,and not much on other things.And the online stuff drives me nuts-most of the time when reading a magazine I don't have a computer always handy-and you may have to pay extra to use the online material.Magazine publishes----STOP THIS,PLEASE!!!Print the material in the book---or not at all or print all of it online --NO MORE of this on both.On the biasing--remember several years ago when CU rated Maytag appliances and Hoover vacuums highly-Maytag and Hoover DID make large contributions to CU at the time.
 
Tomturbomatic,  you offer so much to the club.  I always appreciate your input.  After being gone a couple of days and re- reading this post. I would like to apologize for the way I worded my post to you.  Some days, I don't know what the hell is wrong with me.  You  speak directly and accurately.  I hope you are a having a nice weekend.  Arthur

 
 
I noticed this with vacuums, but am seeing it more often ...

... with everything else they rate: their arbitrary definition of "value".

NEVER have I seen a Kirby or an Aerus even evaluated by the magazine, but they are in my opinion two of the best vacuum cleaners on the planet today. But because the magazine has decided they're "too expensive", whatever superior mechanical virtues they have over all other cleaners on the market today are canceled out by their price tags.
 
CONSUMER REPORTS / MARCH 2014 

<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Kirby Sentria</span> (Recommended model)

Price:  $1,350

Overall Score: 72 (bested only by the Kenmore Elite 31150 which received a 74)

Carpet:  Excellent

Bare Floors: Excellent

Tool Air Flow:  Excellent

Pet Hair:  Excellent

Emissions:  Excellent

Noise:  Fair

Handling:  Fair

Weight: 23 lbs.

 

CONSUMER REPORTS ONLINE / JULY 2014

<span style="text-decoration: underline;">Aerus Fresh Era</span>

Price:  $500

Overall Score:  44 (Kenmore Elite 31150 remains top-scorer at 74) 

Carpet:  Good

Bare Floors:  Very Good

Tool Air Flow:  Not applicable (does not have tools)

Pet Hair:  Excellent

Emissions:  Excellent

Noise:  Fair

Handling:  Very Good

Weight:  11 lbs.

 

You're welcome, Matt!

 

 

 
 
...turned over a new leaf...

 

Not really, Matt.  I keep a pretty close eye on both the print and online versions and even I find it frustrating to track down every model they test throughout the year. It's understandable that others, having less contact with CR on a regular basis, can miss a review.

 

 
 
Well ...

"It's understandable that others, having less contact with CR on a regular basis, can miss a review."

'Tis true.

I've been away from the magazine for a few years now, mostly because of my aforementioned frustrations.
 
So bumping up this thread... and the discussion on the relevance (and potential bias) of Consumer Reports... their new issue is out... and only Consumer Reports could have a cover lead "2015's Red Hot Rides" and "Our Sneak Peak at the Newest and Best Cars" accompanied by a photo of a... Toyota Camry, LOL! Many may consider the Camry a dependable car, but I doubt that many consider it to be 'red hot'!
 
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