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Hurricane Sandy Status Report
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Its like a curse....I was down here all prepared with food, water, and a generator....barely lost power for a few hours, and despite my generator going out....
it figures, you guys up North would be the ones without power for weeks...
Toggles....you think this would have been good week for a Wash-In?.....we could have gotten you a shower and clean clothes...of all the luck!
it figures, you guys up North would be the ones without power for weeks...
Toggles....you think this would have been good week for a Wash-In?.....we could have gotten you a shower and clean clothes...of all the luck!
"Loads of Hope"
WAIT!!!......
where the HELL is the TIDE BigRig Trailer Washer/Dryers with the "Loads of Hope" we all bought bottles, Tshirts, and caps for, that donated money for such a cause.....
we should all put calls into the company....must have ben a gimmick for them to raise money for a cause they had no interest in helping with....
WAIT!!!......
where the HELL is the TIDE BigRig Trailer Washer/Dryers with the "Loads of Hope" we all bought bottles, Tshirts, and caps for, that donated money for such a cause.....
we should all put calls into the company....must have ben a gimmick for them to raise money for a cause they had no interest in helping with....
whirlcool
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they probably will only go to places where they can guarantee a profit.
I think they will need quite a number of "Loads of Tide" trucks to service the Sandy stricken area.
I think they will need quite a number of "Loads of Tide" trucks to service the Sandy stricken area.
Wonder How Businesses In Power Outage Affected Areas Of Manh
Are going to deal with employees in terms of lost work/wages. From supermarkets to restaurants and everything else once you pass about 36th Street it is like no-man's land down there.
Office workers and or those employed by large to mid-sized companies may be alright but service workers probably are another story. Then there are the self employed such as hairdressers, nail salons, etc..
Car rental companies have mostly closed in the affected areas because not only do they lack power to run the systems required to complete the transaction, without electric power garages cannot bring up cars.
On a healthcare note NYU-Langone, Bellevue and Coney Island hospitals have all been evacuated.
Are going to deal with employees in terms of lost work/wages. From supermarkets to restaurants and everything else once you pass about 36th Street it is like no-man's land down there.
Office workers and or those employed by large to mid-sized companies may be alright but service workers probably are another story. Then there are the self employed such as hairdressers, nail salons, etc..
Car rental companies have mostly closed in the affected areas because not only do they lack power to run the systems required to complete the transaction, without electric power garages cannot bring up cars.
On a healthcare note NYU-Langone, Bellevue and Coney Island hospitals have all been evacuated.
Local news this evening
Said there are multiple workers and trucks from the 3 power companies in Maine, Red Cross and FEMA voluntiers already on the way to the worst areas to help in any way they can to get everything up and running again. We certainly did appreciate the help we got from the Mid Atlantic states and Canada when we experienced the Ice Storm of January 1998. It was over 2 weeks without power then for us but help from outside made all the difference.
Said there are multiple workers and trucks from the 3 power companies in Maine, Red Cross and FEMA voluntiers already on the way to the worst areas to help in any way they can to get everything up and running again. We certainly did appreciate the help we got from the Mid Atlantic states and Canada when we experienced the Ice Storm of January 1998. It was over 2 weeks without power then for us but help from outside made all the difference.
Touching on reply #96
<span style="font-size: medium;">Very true Davey, they are not required to have emergency generators, but they should be. Our building were the few actually built with back up generators, not whole building generators, just enough to keep 2 elevators (out of 4) working, operating the water pumps to keep the roof top tanks full, and a few lights in the common areas operational. In the blackout of '03 they all failed, (lack of maintenance). As far as I know, they have never bothered to repair them (Corrupt management and COOP board). All the lights in the common areas have been retrofitted to operate with batteries now, probably give us a few hours at most. In the next COOP meeting, I'm bringing up those generators. We were lucky this time, but it's seems these storms are going to more of the norm now. These morons better wake up and smell the seawater. </span>
<span style="font-size: medium;">On a brighter note, One World Trade Center is all lit up tonight, although the surrounding areas remain dark. </span>
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<span style="font-size: medium;">Very true Davey, they are not required to have emergency generators, but they should be. Our building were the few actually built with back up generators, not whole building generators, just enough to keep 2 elevators (out of 4) working, operating the water pumps to keep the roof top tanks full, and a few lights in the common areas operational. In the blackout of '03 they all failed, (lack of maintenance). As far as I know, they have never bothered to repair them (Corrupt management and COOP board). All the lights in the common areas have been retrofitted to operate with batteries now, probably give us a few hours at most. In the next COOP meeting, I'm bringing up those generators. We were lucky this time, but it's seems these storms are going to more of the norm now. These morons better wake up and smell the seawater. </span>
<span style="font-size: medium;">On a brighter note, One World Trade Center is all lit up tonight, although the surrounding areas remain dark. </span>
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whirlcool
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It's going to be a long and slow recovery for people who lost their homes or suffered severe damage to their homes.
From what I have seen here during hurricanes there really is no one to help you out. These people are on their own. They'll have to contact their insurance companies, FEMA, etc. and wait and wait and wait. Eventually their insurance companies will start to respond, usually with a low ball offer. Then they'll have to fight with their insurance companies in the court room to try to get the insurance companies to make things right.
We had Hurricane Ike in 2008. Currently Houston courtrooms are clogged with cases of homeowners suing their insurance companies for low ball offers. And these homeowners are winning big time.
A friend of ours had a large home in Galveston that suffered about $300K damage during Ike. Their insurance company offered them a $180,000 "take it or leave it" settlement. So they left it. Last year they finally got to court where the judge awarded them the original $180K, plus the missing $120K plus $40K in punitive damages. And all day long this courtroom heard cases against the same insurance company and each case had similar endings.
Our friends took out a loan of their own and completed repairs in about 18 months.
With the settlement they'll pay those loans off. But what about people who can't get those kinds of loans?
I saw on the television tonight a lot of people who lost everything were retired.
What are they going to do? They'll probably have to relocate out of the area.
And a lot of these areas won't have any trees left because the salt water from the storm surge kills trees. Galveston now has a massive project going to re-arbor the island.
From what I have seen here during hurricanes there really is no one to help you out. These people are on their own. They'll have to contact their insurance companies, FEMA, etc. and wait and wait and wait. Eventually their insurance companies will start to respond, usually with a low ball offer. Then they'll have to fight with their insurance companies in the court room to try to get the insurance companies to make things right.
We had Hurricane Ike in 2008. Currently Houston courtrooms are clogged with cases of homeowners suing their insurance companies for low ball offers. And these homeowners are winning big time.
A friend of ours had a large home in Galveston that suffered about $300K damage during Ike. Their insurance company offered them a $180,000 "take it or leave it" settlement. So they left it. Last year they finally got to court where the judge awarded them the original $180K, plus the missing $120K plus $40K in punitive damages. And all day long this courtroom heard cases against the same insurance company and each case had similar endings.
Our friends took out a loan of their own and completed repairs in about 18 months.
With the settlement they'll pay those loans off. But what about people who can't get those kinds of loans?
I saw on the television tonight a lot of people who lost everything were retired.
What are they going to do? They'll probably have to relocate out of the area.
And a lot of these areas won't have any trees left because the salt water from the storm surge kills trees. Galveston now has a massive project going to re-arbor the island.
Just saw the first "J" train rumble pass...
<span style="font-size: medium;">While it won't be going into Manhattan for now, at least the elevated portion is back in operation. </span>
<span style="font-size: medium;">While it won't be going into Manhattan for now, at least the elevated portion is back in operation. </span>
South Cape May County
Cape May is just about back to normal. Some roof damage on a beach front hotel. Just up the coast is a very different situation. It seems that Sandy made landfall at Ventnor. As of the time of this message, Atlantic City is still closed. I am not sure about the other barrier islands but I do believe that they remain closed. Some were allowing residents back yesterday but required ID. The Atlantic City Press reports looting in AC. It will be a long cleanup in many places.
Harry
Cape May is just about back to normal. Some roof damage on a beach front hotel. Just up the coast is a very different situation. It seems that Sandy made landfall at Ventnor. As of the time of this message, Atlantic City is still closed. I am not sure about the other barrier islands but I do believe that they remain closed. Some were allowing residents back yesterday but required ID. The Atlantic City Press reports looting in AC. It will be a long cleanup in many places.
Harry
Looting In AC
Saw on the news this morning several homes, businesses and even a church in the AC area have been looted. Same thing happened after Irene and was one of the reasons many gave, including those who later perished during Sandy and or are missing, for not evacuating.
I say people put up signs like many did after Katrina; "looters will be shot",or some such then load up with salt buckshot.
Saw on the news this morning several homes, businesses and even a church in the AC area have been looted. Same thing happened after Irene and was one of the reasons many gave, including those who later perished during Sandy and or are missing, for not evacuating.
I say people put up signs like many did after Katrina; "looters will be shot",or some such then load up with salt buckshot.
Well, I hear more & more and am definitely sending my every thought & prayer out to our East Coast to those of you who are members here & the many who are not!
I hope everything goes well & you pull through... Very sad times when stuff like this hits no matter where it hits, and people take advantage of things enough that they resort to looting & swiping peoples' things left out in the open (as if that is not already a problem when we don't have those kinds of conditions & things should be under a better watch)...!
So stay strong, be brave & remember most importantly, when what took years building gets destroyed like that in one critical & crucial moment: REBUILD!
-- Dave
I hope everything goes well & you pull through... Very sad times when stuff like this hits no matter where it hits, and people take advantage of things enough that they resort to looting & swiping peoples' things left out in the open (as if that is not already a problem when we don't have those kinds of conditions & things should be under a better watch)...!
So stay strong, be brave & remember most importantly, when what took years building gets destroyed like that in one critical & crucial moment: REBUILD!
-- Dave
whirlcool
Well-known member
Yesterday I sent an e-mail to P&G to see if they will be sending the Tide "Loads of Hope" truck to the east coast. Here is the response I received:
As we work with the American Red Cross to assess the situation as a result of Superstorm Sandy, we have learned that we will most likely not have a true understanding of the situation as it relates to Tide Loads of Hope for the next couple of days.
We will be continuing to say close to the American Red Cross to so we are able to make a decision on Tide Loads of Hope deployment and what will be most beneficial to those affected.
For the most up-to-date Loads of Hope location information, watch our Facebook status and follow us on Twitter @TideloadsofHope.
As we work with the American Red Cross to assess the situation as a result of Superstorm Sandy, we have learned that we will most likely not have a true understanding of the situation as it relates to Tide Loads of Hope for the next couple of days.
We will be continuing to say close to the American Red Cross to so we are able to make a decision on Tide Loads of Hope deployment and what will be most beneficial to those affected.
For the most up-to-date Loads of Hope location information, watch our Facebook status and follow us on Twitter @TideloadsofHope.
Hey, watch it Mr. Ultramtic disgruntled shareholder, co-op board president here!
*grin*
(seriously, I am president of my co-op board)
Our building isn't tall enough to require a generator, but the upper floors would lose water in a blackout, Chicago is a 2 & 3 story city, so they get good water pressure w/o supplemental pumps & tanks, but over 4 it's shaky (I'm at roof level of the 3 story buildings around and when our pump died I couldn't flush toilets [flushometers], but had enough water to drink). My parents live way higher up in a taller building and my late 80's dad has been known to walk up and down!
I hope reconstruction on the barrier islands is discouraged, heartless as it sounds, to prevent this level of destruction from happening again. Barrier islands move naturally and rebuild themselves eventually - they really saved a lot of lives and property in '38 as I understand it.
How much more of the subway system is back up? As Launderess said, a lot of people depend upon their paychecks week to week....
*grin*
(seriously, I am president of my co-op board)
Our building isn't tall enough to require a generator, but the upper floors would lose water in a blackout, Chicago is a 2 & 3 story city, so they get good water pressure w/o supplemental pumps & tanks, but over 4 it's shaky (I'm at roof level of the 3 story buildings around and when our pump died I couldn't flush toilets [flushometers], but had enough water to drink). My parents live way higher up in a taller building and my late 80's dad has been known to walk up and down!
I hope reconstruction on the barrier islands is discouraged, heartless as it sounds, to prevent this level of destruction from happening again. Barrier islands move naturally and rebuild themselves eventually - they really saved a lot of lives and property in '38 as I understand it.
How much more of the subway system is back up? As Launderess said, a lot of people depend upon their paychecks week to week....
whirlcool
Well-known member
Since I started this thread for our members to check in to let us know how they are doing I started a thread where we can discuss "What Will Happen Now?"
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?43241_0
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?43241_0
whirlcool
Well-known member
Since I started this thread as a place for NE members to check in and let us know how they are doing I started a new thread for us to discuss "What Will Happen Now?".
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?43241_0
http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?43241_0
NYC Transit
Buses are either running limited or full service depending upon part of the City.
Subway service came back yesterday limited in Manhattan with the Westside lines running from the Bronx to 34th Street and on the Eastside to 42nd Street.
With no power below West 27th Street on the Westside and about the low 30's or high 20's on the East there isn't much for workers employed downtown to rush to, unless the building has generator power things are closed. The NYSE is amoung some of the few things open down there.
Last one heard the MTA is saying there *may* be limited subway service by this weekend downtown. Meanwhile ConEdison is saying lights in the blacked out areas of Manhattan *may* also be on fully or in limited ways by this weekend.
This is all from memory of watching early morning local news programs before work. Haven't watched evening news and may give it a miss in full or part. Am growing wearing of the 24/7 coverage.
It really is a tale of two cities for Manhattan. Life is pretty much normal for the Upper East and Westsides of Manhattan. Once you get above say 34th Street you'd be hard pressed to know there was even a hurricane. UPS and USPS are making deliveries, stores and other businesses for the most part are open, life pretty much is going on as usual. Thursday many shops/supermarkets were short of food/stock but most seemed to be restocking last night and or today.
http://www.ny1.com/
Buses are either running limited or full service depending upon part of the City.
Subway service came back yesterday limited in Manhattan with the Westside lines running from the Bronx to 34th Street and on the Eastside to 42nd Street.
With no power below West 27th Street on the Westside and about the low 30's or high 20's on the East there isn't much for workers employed downtown to rush to, unless the building has generator power things are closed. The NYSE is amoung some of the few things open down there.
Last one heard the MTA is saying there *may* be limited subway service by this weekend downtown. Meanwhile ConEdison is saying lights in the blacked out areas of Manhattan *may* also be on fully or in limited ways by this weekend.
This is all from memory of watching early morning local news programs before work. Haven't watched evening news and may give it a miss in full or part. Am growing wearing of the 24/7 coverage.
It really is a tale of two cities for Manhattan. Life is pretty much normal for the Upper East and Westsides of Manhattan. Once you get above say 34th Street you'd be hard pressed to know there was even a hurricane. UPS and USPS are making deliveries, stores and other businesses for the most part are open, life pretty much is going on as usual. Thursday many shops/supermarkets were short of food/stock but most seemed to be restocking last night and or today.
http://www.ny1.com/
*Breaking News* - NYC Marathon Cancelled For This Sunday
Amid huge outrage from the NYPD unions down to average NY'ers, the media, those in affected areas including Staten Island where the race begins Mayor Bloomberg has annouced that this Sunday's marathon will not take place.
Am willing to bet the man is cursing under his breath about this one.
Amid huge outrage from the NYPD unions down to average NY'ers, the media, those in affected areas including Staten Island where the race begins Mayor Bloomberg has annouced that this Sunday's marathon will not take place.
Am willing to bet the man is cursing under his breath about this one.
*Update*
Local evening news reports ConEdison has restored power to the Lower Eastside and East Village.
Local evening news reports ConEdison has restored power to the Lower Eastside and East Village.
kenmoreguy89
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Con Edison power plant explosion in NYC
Interesting video festuring the Con Edison power failure:
Interesting video festuring the Con Edison power failure:
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