IGNIS - Non-colourfast and... VIDEOS!

[vivalalavatrice]

Hi all!
As you know this is my drems' machine recently restored and which I do 3-4 cycle a months with...

Today I did the noncolourfast load (I mean delicate colours), here you are the first video of the machine during the mainwash after the heating phase end

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[vivalalavatrice]

Then undressed!!!!!!

Look this one I made for those who want to see everything....undressed!!

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[vivalalavatrice]

The motor my friends...

It's a bit weak... I think it's all in the capacitors...this is a bomb of washing machine engine...specialy considering the amount of water in the drum durint the rinse cycles which reaches almost the bearings...
Anyway here you are the BESTIA!

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[vivalalavatrice]

And then...

at end...why don't let you really get craky?!??!

This is the best in this machine...the spin! The motor start spinnning whatever is the balancing of the load...but as you see soon the shock absorbers work to minimize the shaking, which become again the same as the begin after the spin ends...

Oh... you see 4 rinse cycles onto the indicator, but as the mainwash spin ends the machine go on with the cycle and as the cycle 5 has got 3 rinses only the first is bypassed (hear if you can the trr of the timer advancing)

wait...the video is arriving!

 

[vivalalavatrice]

The spin!

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[funguy10]

Pretty interesting washer. Too bad there is no way to actually see inside the drum where the clothes are tumbling around, as is the case with all Top-Loading Horizontal-Axis washers.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Funguy....

isn't never enouhg for you? Weren't you alwasy asking for videos and videos?

Yes, I know that in this kind of machine you couldn't see clothes tubling.... but for me and for all those who love TLHA this is one of the most beautiful machine we could have never saw!

If the lid were glassed and the sliding lid were like so too, at least you would be able to see the sudsy drum rotating.

I don't absolutelty like FL, why? If you do a laundry with bedsheets and somother underwear or anyway smaller items... I scientific proved (doing many and many experiments with TLHA and FL) that the bedsheets ALWAYS COLLECT the other smaller items...like if they were a bag!
This is what happend with European standard...don't know with bigger American FL....

Diomede

 

[foraloysius]

Diomede

Wonderful videos. That machine always amazes me, I love the sounds of it. You can see it was built to last!

Luigi ;-)

 

[funguy10]

isn't never enouhg for you? Weren't you alwasy askin

It is a perfectlty tolotrable amount because I can hear what the machine sounds like. I was just pointing out the fact about how you can't see a thing.

 

[mielabor]

Well, you cannot see the clothes but you can certainly hear them in your movies

Diomede, about your statement regarding duvet covers collecting other laundry items: I also had to retrieve literally every piece of laundry from one duvet cover on several occasions. That happened with the Miele and also with the Asko but it has never been such a regular occurrence as you have found when using front loaders. I am intrigued as to why this would not happen with top loading HA machines. Has anyone else the same experience with TLHA machines?

 

[vivalalavatrice]

I am intrigued as to why this would not happen with top load

Theo, is the easiest reason you could found...

In a common HA, like the Front Loaders we all know, the items tumble, BUT:
- the bottom of the drum rotates!
- the windowed lid DOESN'T!
So it's like if you were doing a meatball with your hands... imagine... the lower hand is standing while the upper hand is rotating... the same thing happens there but the system is verically and the gravity force get everyhing worse...so it happens that the bigger items collect the smaller ones!

In the TLHA the drum has got TWO bottoms, so both literally LEAD the clothes contemporaneally...like if you were rocking them on a stone handwashing with TWO HANDS!

These are the example I can do to explain why here (so speaking of HA at all) Toploaders are BETTER than Frontloaders.

Totally another thing is with vertical axis and agitation wash action.

Diomede

 

[mielabor]

Stationary window...

Well, that could be the reason for the collecting of smaller items by larger ones. I have also thought about it and there may be another reason too: the front and back of a TLHA drum are relatively smooth while the back of a FLHA drum usually has a very pronounced inward projecting profile which may also cause entangling of laundry items. I wonder whether a contrarotating Dyson is better or worse in this respect.

 

[maytagbear]

Thank you!

Diomede!

Fascinating machine.

I, for one, am greateful for these videos.

Lawrence/Maytagbear

 

[foraloysius]

Stationary window...

Interesting theory. I decided to wash my bed linens in the Constructa today. I always wash them in the Miele or AEG frontloader. Often there is indeed a pillow case in the duvet cover, not this time. Interesting indeed.

 

[vivalalavatrice]

TLHA

Yes my dear friends.

I remeber you I recently have been graduated in Industrial Desing, with a thesi on WASH world.

During the analysis I found out in the world principally 3 sort of washing machine:
- Vertical Axis (TL ever)
- Horizontal Axis Front loading
- Horizontal Axi Top loading

I had to found the most argumentations as possible to declair that the third that's Top Loading Horizontal Axis is the BEST of the three found.
The "stationary window" is the one, comparing it with the front loading.
I couldn't have said that without have tried many and many laundry in both FL and TLHA... 8/10 the TLHA get the laundry "free", while the FL get the laundry "inglobed"

I mentioned many other reasons why TLHA is better than the other two... blast, they're written in Italian...but... wait and I'll translate for you as soon as possible...

It would be the revoltuion specially over there in US where people don't want to loose th confort of TL but should to swap on horizontal axis washing system to avoid all that incredible amount of water consumed by the traditional vertical TL.

I compared my Ignis and many other TLHA I tried around... nothig to compare with Staber!!!

Diomede

PS: in truth was my mum let me notice that the first we tried our new Whirlpool TLHA, when the old FL Sangiorgio was taking apart... so I decided to make some experiments to see if it was only a case... and instead it's "mathematic"!

 

[funguy10]

Are you saying that both your TLHA machines make the washing quality of Staber washers look like crap?

 

[vivalalavatrice]

Are you saying that both your TLHA machines make the washing

I mean that even though I've never owned or used a Staber, it looks me that the exagonal shaped drum (and conseguently the shape of the outertub) makes a wash action of course not like if it were circular (that's the traditional horizontal axis drum with 4 and not only the common 3 paddles) tubs.
The Ignis drum has got 4 paddles and the Whirlpool one has got only 3, honstely the first one is better than the second one, but better either than Staber as it's more gentle and at the same time vigourous but not aggressive like Staber could be.

Don't absolutetly know if it's better or worse (I should try it), but honestly if I were in US I won't buy a Staber although I'm a very big TLHA lover! I will go for a FL...

Then Staber has got a seal which join the outertub to the cabinet, like the most of TLHA overhere now, Ignis is like Asko/MaytagFL (i.e.) that's the outertub is independently from cabinet (and you can see it from the spin videos), this is another good featured of this kind of machine.

Diomede

 

[funguy10]

You'd probably like a Staber being TLHA and all. The only catch is that Stabers are made in The USA and you are in Italy, you wouldn't be able to get one shipped to Italy. Also, the Staber washer has a hexagonal tub that rotates in the bottom have of an octogonal tub. According to Staber, this creates a "Passive pumping action" which turbulates the water while the laundry tumbles and makes for better cleaning results.