Im very disappointed at "Affresh." I need help!
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mark_wpduet
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Try putting some cascade powder through the machine and run it on a hot hot cycle. Seems I remember reading another person had this problem and that's what they did.
mark_wpduet
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One thing I don't understand about those "clean cycles" is there is no rinsing...At least in mine. It fills with water and runs for a while, then drains/spins...So if you use bleach/affresh/cascade or whatever it doesn't get rinsed out.
ronhic
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I can't believe I am going to say this......
...because you are all going to think I am nuts and obsessed..
We don't have a calcium problem in most of (all of?) Australia...at least not nearly to the same degree that parts os Europe and the US do....
BUT, I used to clean the element in our kettle with.....
...white vinegar....
by putting a 1/2 cup in, filling and then bringing to the boil. Let sit for an hour. Rinse out and boil with fresh water twice....
You could try that in the cleaning cycle....whilst the machine is filling pour 2 Quarts in via the drawer...run the 'clean' cycle and then run it again without any vinegar....
Could be worth a try....
...because you are all going to think I am nuts and obsessed..
We don't have a calcium problem in most of (all of?) Australia...at least not nearly to the same degree that parts os Europe and the US do....
BUT, I used to clean the element in our kettle with.....
...white vinegar....
by putting a 1/2 cup in, filling and then bringing to the boil. Let sit for an hour. Rinse out and boil with fresh water twice....
You could try that in the cleaning cycle....whilst the machine is filling pour 2 Quarts in via the drawer...run the 'clean' cycle and then run it again without any vinegar....
Could be worth a try....
ronhic
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addendum
...that was in London too....with very hard water
...that was in London too....with very hard water
Even better is citric acid, white vinegar can damage some materials. Some coffeemakers may only be cleaned by using citric acid. I did that with my Constructa toploader a while ago. Here's the before picture.
And here is a picture taken afterwards.
askomiele
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@ ronhic
why should you be obsessed?
Here every body knows that white vinegar is the way to get rid of calcium on element or stainless steal surfaces, I even clean my pots (when boiling water for defrosting the freezer or steaming vegatbles) and my windows with it (to prevent streaks)
why should you be obsessed?
Here every body knows that white vinegar is the way to get rid of calcium on element or stainless steal surfaces, I even clean my pots (when boiling water for defrosting the freezer or steaming vegatbles) and my windows with it (to prevent streaks)
ronhic
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well....
I suppose because it seems to be my answer to sooo many issues.
...next I'll be suggesting that people put in their fish and chips of all things!
I suppose because it seems to be my answer to sooo many issues.
...next I'll be suggesting that people put in their fish and chips of all things!
launderess
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Most any acid will remove mineral deposits, however descaling products for washing machines and dishwashers tend to favour citric acid, and a few others, but not vinegar. Even heard one or two Miele techs say it is not a good idea to put white vinegar in the washer.
There are lots of things between and the tubs like sensors and such that could be harmed by any number of substances.
Play things safe and get some washing machine "cleaner", which has not just acids, but surfactants to assist in removing and carrying away whatever gunk inside the machine.
IIRC, Affresh is mainly oxygen bleach,and is sold as something else by it's maker (Summit?). Whirlpool just slapped a different packaging and marketing twist on the stuff.
Oxygen bleach will kill moild and germs, but does nothing for hard water deposits, detergent residue and soap scum.
L.
There are lots of things between and the tubs like sensors and such that could be harmed by any number of substances.
Play things safe and get some washing machine "cleaner", which has not just acids, but surfactants to assist in removing and carrying away whatever gunk inside the machine.
IIRC, Affresh is mainly oxygen bleach,and is sold as something else by it's maker (Summit?). Whirlpool just slapped a different packaging and marketing twist on the stuff.
Oxygen bleach will kill moild and germs, but does nothing for hard water deposits, detergent residue and soap scum.
L.
autowasherfreak
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I use a vinegar & water solution to clean windows, mirrors, and computer monitors, TV's. I also use vinegar to clean the reservoir for the humidifier attachment for my CPAP machine. I also use it to clean my coffee makers, electric vegetable steamer/rice cooker. I run it thru the dishwasher once a month. I found a book that I want to get called either 101 or 1001 uses for vinegar. Who says it just for cooking.
Just a question, does fabric softner contribute to this build up> Im a T/L kinda guy, and use 1 dryer sheet a week for the dark colors and never in towels or sheets, or jeans and t's. In fact i only use it for static control, softness just is not our thing. alr2903
surgilator_68
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No, fabric softener does not cause this problem. The problem is caused by using the wrong detergent and/ or too little of it. Detergent has ingredients that are supposed to sequester the minerals and hardness in water, keep dirt in suspension and flush it down the drain, all without depositing it back on the clothes and on the machine. That is one of the many reasons why you are only supposed to use HE detergent in an HE machine. If you use regular detergent and use less to reduce the sudsing you thereby reduce the amount of water softeners, surfactants, sequestrants and soil suspending agents needed to clean and protect the machine.
Get a big jar of Tang....yes the orange drink you mix with water....dump the whole thing in the machine and set to clean cycle or the longest wash cycle possible. It will remove all the calcium/mineral/rust deposits. You may have to do that more than once if the build up is heavy. You can also use CLR but be careful not to use too much as it will damage the components of the machine.
Get a big jar of Tang....yes the orange drink you mix with water....dump the whole thing in the machine and set to clean cycle or the longest wash cycle possible. It will remove all the calcium/mineral/rust deposits. You may have to do that more than once if the build up is heavy. You can also use CLR but be careful not to use too much as it will damage the components of the machine.
mark_wpduet
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I always wondered why the washer tub never got calcium deposits. So the detergent is the reason. I always use a small amount of distilled white vinegar in the fabric softener dispenser, but its not much. Could this be harming my FL machine? I see on other forums A LOT of people do this.
surgilator_68
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Vinegar won't hurt anything. It is supposed to help the clothing release any detergent and soften the clothes naturally. I was on that kick for a while, didn't notice a difference.
