Impressions: Bosch S620 Dishwasher
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It's intersting to see the family similarities with my recent-model Bosch.
Very shocking similarities to much newer machines... Oh dear, I think I've proven that statement *yet again*
During the time with that machine (~ 2 weeks), I was quite curious about that Door-Handle. It ALWAYS seemed quite stiff and difficult to open, if you didn't get the "Angle of Attack" on the handle quite right. I was worried I might break the plastic on the machine!
If you need parts for another machine, I would suggest trawling eBay and checking locally for machines going to the scrapper. Maybe even befriend some repair-people to try and get some parts.
I noticed during our visit 2 other machines like this one, both Siemens Lady models.
During the time with that machine (~ 2 weeks), I was quite curious about that Door-Handle. It ALWAYS seemed quite stiff and difficult to open, if you didn't get the "Angle of Attack" on the handle quite right. I was worried I might break the plastic on the machine!
If you need parts for another machine, I would suggest trawling eBay and checking locally for machines going to the scrapper. Maybe even befriend some repair-people to try and get some parts.
I noticed during our visit 2 other machines like this one, both Siemens Lady models.
It's a Simpson too ...
I always suspected my "made in Germany" Simpson dishwasher was a Bosch underneath the skin. I bought mine in 1989 and it's internal racking was identical with what you've shown here. The sump arrangement was slightly (though not significantly) different.
Does yours have a single reversible motor (one direction for wash; the reverse for drain), or is there a separate pump for drain?
You mentioned the filter stays remarkably clean. I agree - it's as if it were designed to allow heavier debris to sink through the grates and be flushed away at drain time.
A beautiful design indeed, and very easy to load.
Have fun!
I always suspected my "made in Germany" Simpson dishwasher was a Bosch underneath the skin. I bought mine in 1989 and it's internal racking was identical with what you've shown here. The sump arrangement was slightly (though not significantly) different.
Does yours have a single reversible motor (one direction for wash; the reverse for drain), or is there a separate pump for drain?
You mentioned the filter stays remarkably clean. I agree - it's as if it were designed to allow heavier debris to sink through the grates and be flushed away at drain time.
A beautiful design indeed, and very easy to load.
Have fun!
Since the machine was in an installed state, under the counter, I'm not sure as to the drainage setup.
The machine doesn't Stop->Dwell->Drain like many others do. It almost seemed like it lacked the drain pump, from the way it operated and even sounded. The pumping versus draining sounds were different.
My secondary (or perhaps tertiary) summation was the racking was mostly quite flexible and agreeable, if it weren't for the racks being somewhat unwelcoming to larger items (Like those plates). The "lack of inspiration" of the EU machines was also something I wasn't particularly impressed, but I'm sure others might disagree there.
I'm quite surprised to hear that Simpson also marketed a version of the machine here in Australia, so another licensed job ("Badge-Engineering") from Bosch. I guess they realised the potential and goodness of their design, although its surprising that they wouldn't manufacture such a machine here considering Australia did (once) have quite a large manufacturing sector.
Thanks for your input, but a quick question: Was (or is) your machine of the Dual-Pump or singular-pump (With Drain-Valve) type?
That might explain differences between the sumps on our machines - or perhaps Bosch implemented a more second-tier filtration/pumping system and reserved "the best" for their own lineup of machines.
The machine doesn't Stop->Dwell->Drain like many others do. It almost seemed like it lacked the drain pump, from the way it operated and even sounded. The pumping versus draining sounds were different.
My secondary (or perhaps tertiary) summation was the racking was mostly quite flexible and agreeable, if it weren't for the racks being somewhat unwelcoming to larger items (Like those plates). The "lack of inspiration" of the EU machines was also something I wasn't particularly impressed, but I'm sure others might disagree there.
I'm quite surprised to hear that Simpson also marketed a version of the machine here in Australia, so another licensed job ("Badge-Engineering") from Bosch. I guess they realised the potential and goodness of their design, although its surprising that they wouldn't manufacture such a machine here considering Australia did (once) have quite a large manufacturing sector.
Thanks for your input, but a quick question: Was (or is) your machine of the Dual-Pump or singular-pump (With Drain-Valve) type?
That might explain differences between the sumps on our machines - or perhaps Bosch implemented a more second-tier filtration/pumping system and reserved "the best" for their own lineup of machines.
Single-Pump Simpson
Unfortunately the machine was left in a previous home about 13 years ago. It was still running strong though.
It had a single motor with two impellers. The larger one at the top of the shaft drove the water for the wash cabinet itself, while the smaller, lower one drove the water down the drain. The motor was reversible and the impellers designed so that when rotating in one direction the wash impeller would force the water around, while in the other, the drain impeller would apply force.
Because of the impeller design, there was no need for a drain valve of any kind.
Unfortunately the machine was left in a previous home about 13 years ago. It was still running strong though.
It had a single motor with two impellers. The larger one at the top of the shaft drove the water for the wash cabinet itself, while the smaller, lower one drove the water down the drain. The motor was reversible and the impellers designed so that when rotating in one direction the wash impeller would force the water around, while in the other, the drain impeller would apply force.
Because of the impeller design, there was no need for a drain valve of any kind.
I had a similar model
Hi I had a similar machine , and I'm sure yours is the same inside. I think you can alter the upper rack tho, slide it out as normal to load, the long silver arms will slide out too, the white clips on the end turn left or right this allows the upper rack to slide out completely , at the moment it's on it's lower level so slide it back in using the lower set of wheels and this will raise the upper rack to a higher level ( normal I'd say ) and give you better height in the lower rack for plates. Mine had a dial on right to select programme with a color selector above each program. I got it second hand and had it about 5 years before it started to fail.
Oh and mine was badged hotpoint ! But a Bosch in drag !
Richard
Hi I had a similar machine , and I'm sure yours is the same inside. I think you can alter the upper rack tho, slide it out as normal to load, the long silver arms will slide out too, the white clips on the end turn left or right this allows the upper rack to slide out completely , at the moment it's on it's lower level so slide it back in using the lower set of wheels and this will raise the upper rack to a higher level ( normal I'd say ) and give you better height in the lower rack for plates. Mine had a dial on right to select programme with a color selector above each program. I got it second hand and had it about 5 years before it started to fail.
Oh and mine was badged hotpoint ! But a Bosch in drag !
Richard
Judging from the picture in reply 8, it looks like there is an outlet for a drain pump at the 5 o'clock position.
