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indesit is appering on watchdog on bbc next week as the moon washer has a special feature A MOLDY SEAL! whch is washing mould into your laundry.
my take on the moon is more beuty than itelegence and relaiblility
also it is brainless as the supposed boil wash is only 60*c not enouch to kill bacteria.
what's your take on this?
Tom
 
Indesit Moon -> Beauty -> Naaahhhhh!!

How can it be beauty... it looks like a constipated parallelepipedon!!

Anyway... as far as I know... a temperature of 60 degrees is enough to kill bacteria should it be maintained for half an hour or longer. Having said that, Personally, I wouldn't like the idea of not being able to use a washing machine for a boil wash.
 
the machine isnt that good atall. but i am shocked that watchdog havent picked up on this fault when the machine was launched in 2006.
60'c isnt hot enough for a boilwash
 
No matter how I dislike Indesit

I like the idea! It could have just been developed more.
Tbh I dislike that it "stole" the Aquamatic dispenser design..but it can go. Programmes are what I dislike..
Anyway - about it being simple: "You just hit the button..." - nothing more simple than rotating knob for one or 2 steps, and hitting start button (well, if it is so hard to rotate knob...)
 
The Indesit Moon was a bit of a gimmick.
Just proves that you would be better to stick to relatively well-proven designs.
 
The Moon did strike me odd given that people seem to like having a wide range of programme options, while the Moon has so few. However, from what I understand it is good at rinsing because it uses infrared to detect how cloudy the rinse water is, adjusting the cycle accordingly.
 
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I can understand Indesit appearing on Watchdog, but for the wrong reason! I expected the BBC to get wind of the exploding washer issue on Hotpoint/Indesit and put in a full report on this. But then the Moon is a really shoddy washing machine, so I can see it on Watchdog.
 
infrared rinses....

Do you really belive it"s so smart washer? xD
Those adverts made me LAUGH... you know specially when FW30 "it detects if water is dirty or clear, so it starts FW30 or rinse-only cycle"... well, if machine takes detergent water will be "dirty" aswell as if wet cloth full of dtrgnt was put there, just running standard FW30, results are same as it was rinse xD.. It is way tooo standard machine, programmes (traditional way): number 1, 60
number3, 40 but 1000rpm, etc.. NO OPTIONS lol xD
I don"t think that Watchdog talked about explosions because there isn"t much stuff on the media and from the people about that. I mean when you search through Indesit MOON reviews, of 93reviews 90 were complaining about mold.. and few websites go on like that - that"s a very big amount of people... I mean I know explosions are much more important, but bigger attention is on this.

Now, since I live in Serbia, and I"m not able to watch a Watchdog is there a link so I can see it too? thanks :)
 
The Infrared idea seems like a good idea, its a shame it's not used in other machines, but I guess the extra water consumption would put manufacturers off.

Watchdog will probably be on BBC iPlayer, you will have to use a UK proxy to see it. They many do a article with a video clip on their website, or it may turn up on Youtube at some point.
 
Infrared....

I think Miele use a similar idea on some of their machines. However i think it's more or less unheard of in other cheaper models like the Moon.

The Moon has never appealed to me because of not being able to see the washing whilst the machine is on, but i do think a mouldy seal is abit of a non-story -lots of washing machines can suffer this to a degree.

I'd have thought using the time to warn people of Indesit's splitting drums would have been time better spent.

Liam
 
So do....

all other washing machines that has mold growing in it, like we say

leave door ajar
use proprietary bio powder with bleach
use hot washes regulary
or do a hotter maintainence wash
dont use super concentrate fab con in large doses, a drop will do

Finally
on the moon, squeeze out the filter door drip sponge

Interesting on the examples on the programme, gel detergents where seen near the machine!!!
 
Having watched too...

...I'd like to invite Anne Robinson and her crew to pop their hands into 60*C water and still describe it as "warm"!

And as for the owners: pull your finger out and clean the damn door seal and dispenser more often!

I don't think any of the team - including the microbiology expert - were particularly enthused by the subject matter to be honest.

It's all very well advising consumers to run an empty maintenance cycle at 95*C (or as hot as the machine will get) but given new machines run with so little water there just isn't sufficient turbulence and contact with the cleaning solution to wash the tub and door seal properly. Case in point: my sister had a Bosch Maxx machine that wasn't running properly. I took a quick look - couldn't really diagnose anything but did notice a build up of gunk in the door seal and tub. She said she'd only just run an empty boil wash but when I ran the separate rinse at high level a lot of black gunk started floating in the water as a result of the increased water level and associated turbulence. It's probably just better to use the hot wash with good stout detergent on some or other load regularly these days.
 
Having watched too...

...I'd like to invite Anne Robinson and her crew to pop their hands into 60*C water and still describe it as "warm"!

And as for the owners: pull your finger out and clean the damn door seal and dispenser more often!

I don't think any of the team - including the microbiology expert - were particularly enthused by the subject matter to be honest.

It's all very well advising consumers to run an empty maintenance cycle at 95*C (or as hot as the machine will get) but given new machines run with so little water there just isn't sufficient turbulence and contact with the cleaning solution to wash the tub and door seal properly. Case in point: my sister had a Bosch Maxx machine that wasn't running properly. I took a quick look - couldn't really diagnose anything but did notice a build up of gunk in the door seal and tub. She said she'd only just run an empty boil wash but when I ran the separate rinse at high level a lot of black gunk started floating in the water as a result of the increased water level and associated turbulence. It's probably just better to use the hot wash with good stout detergent on some or other load regularly these days.
 
Maintenance Washes

Many of the new machines like Gorenje now have Tub Clean Maintenance Programmes which simply heat the water to very hot and spin the drum at speed sloshing all the water solution all over the inner & outer tub!!!

The Hotpoint engineers of old used a similar trick when the first washer dryers came out, they would place some large cotton towels in the drum and spin them, the force of all the water spinning used to clear any lint from the outer tubs!!!




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