I had a ariston washer dryer that after probably a year started to bang and try to escape like that was always having to push the darn thing back in lol, and when i had the hotpoint ultima after around 2 months say, it had a really bad blip when the machine came out half way only happened the once though, but suprised it happened at all considering it use to spend so long trying to balance the loads, used to really anoy me, sometimes it could increase the total cycle time by 30-40 mins.
Indesit Moon - wonderful performance!
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2drumsallergy
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YouTube Videos
Hello Mr. funguy10,
I will do a video soon. I had done one sometime ago but the file was over 1Gb in size and YouTube does not allow files of that size. I have bought myself some new Software, Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection which includes Adobe Premier Pro CS3 so I should be able to shrink the video down.
David
Hello Mr. funguy10,
I will do a video soon. I had done one sometime ago but the file was over 1Gb in size and YouTube does not allow files of that size. I have bought myself some new Software, Adobe Creative Suite 3 Master Collection which includes Adobe Premier Pro CS3 so I should be able to shrink the video down.
David
matchboxpaul
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OK OK maybe a mile was a bit of an exaggeration with the Dysons.
To me personally, the design is a little bit too whacky. Most modern machines are very plasticky but this one, to me seems a bit too plasticky. The colours schemes are also a bit gaudy for my liking - but then again, when Hotpoint introduced the purple liberators, they were probably pilloried as well for being different (and that paid off big style). I remember reading recently, in an old 'Which' Magazine, a warning words to the effect that Hotpoints Liberators have purple doors and styling and to be sure that the machines will suit your kitchen decor!
Also, in the kitchens I have seen them in (admittedly only in pictures on ebay) have them protruding quite far out from under the work surface. My taste is for machines to be on show, but pushed cleanly under the work surface -again, its personal taste.
All the technology in the dyson has to be respected for trying something different - if the packaging was just a bit more 'normal', then I would probably have a bit more time for it.
Likewise, with the Moon, Indesit have to be congratulated for trying something different and I suppose it does exactly what it says on the tin - a simple, no nonsense washing machine.
Its just that neither of them apperal to me.
Like the Keymatic, the Dyson and probably the moon will become classics in a few years time. Maybe by then I will have learnt to appreciate them.
Cheers
Paul
p.s I vote for transit bolts being left in
To me personally, the design is a little bit too whacky. Most modern machines are very plasticky but this one, to me seems a bit too plasticky. The colours schemes are also a bit gaudy for my liking - but then again, when Hotpoint introduced the purple liberators, they were probably pilloried as well for being different (and that paid off big style). I remember reading recently, in an old 'Which' Magazine, a warning words to the effect that Hotpoints Liberators have purple doors and styling and to be sure that the machines will suit your kitchen decor!
Also, in the kitchens I have seen them in (admittedly only in pictures on ebay) have them protruding quite far out from under the work surface. My taste is for machines to be on show, but pushed cleanly under the work surface -again, its personal taste.
All the technology in the dyson has to be respected for trying something different - if the packaging was just a bit more 'normal', then I would probably have a bit more time for it.
Likewise, with the Moon, Indesit have to be congratulated for trying something different and I suppose it does exactly what it says on the tin - a simple, no nonsense washing machine.
Its just that neither of them apperal to me.
Like the Keymatic, the Dyson and probably the moon will become classics in a few years time. Maybe by then I will have learnt to appreciate them.
Cheers
Paul
p.s I vote for transit bolts being left in
lavamat78800
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Can anybody say me if this Indesit owns somebody in here?
It´s a terrible machine.
It´s a terrible machine.
hooverzodiac12
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hahaha i was just about to put that vid on lol.
my bendix did that all the time. infact this washer sounds exactly like my bendix.
my bendix did that all the time. infact this washer sounds exactly like my bendix.
rolls_rapide
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2DrumsAllergy
With regard to the shop floor 'demo' Dyson CR01/02; can you tell me if these demo models can be made into fully fledged washers by 'some button pushing', or would they require substantial component replacement?
I know of a store manager who kept one, on the off chance of discovering such a 'fix'.
Your reply would be much appreciated.
With regard to the shop floor 'demo' Dyson CR01/02; can you tell me if these demo models can be made into fully fledged washers by 'some button pushing', or would they require substantial component replacement?
I know of a store manager who kept one, on the off chance of discovering such a 'fix'.
Your reply would be much appreciated.
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Demo Model Conversion
Hi Rolls_rapide,
I remember asking the Dyson Engineer that same question when he was updating my CR01 Memory. He told me that the demo models are complete machines and can be made fully functional but it requires replacing the main controller board. The main controller board is located behind the control panel and is easy to access. I don't know how much the main control board would cost but I can tell you a Dyson washer is well worth having in any collection.
The CR01 and CR02 are basically the same machines but the CR02 had the updated components already fitted; namely the Gearbox Actuator commonly referred to as the Ramp, the new door interlock, the new coin trap cover with drain spout and Software version 2.05.
My CR01 Memory is Silver, Purple and Yellow in colour but I prefer the colour of my CR02 2-Drums Allergy which is a quieter Silver and Gray and looks great in my kitchen.
David
Hi Rolls_rapide,
I remember asking the Dyson Engineer that same question when he was updating my CR01 Memory. He told me that the demo models are complete machines and can be made fully functional but it requires replacing the main controller board. The main controller board is located behind the control panel and is easy to access. I don't know how much the main control board would cost but I can tell you a Dyson washer is well worth having in any collection.
The CR01 and CR02 are basically the same machines but the CR02 had the updated components already fitted; namely the Gearbox Actuator commonly referred to as the Ramp, the new door interlock, the new coin trap cover with drain spout and Software version 2.05.
My CR01 Memory is Silver, Purple and Yellow in colour but I prefer the colour of my CR02 2-Drums Allergy which is a quieter Silver and Gray and looks great in my kitchen.
David
hoovermatic
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"..............I think if the Moon had more cycles than it would be a nice machine. I think it's too dumbed down personally, it's not as if a BOL Indesit/Beko/Zanussi/Bosch isn't easy enough to use"
The reality is that if most people thought about it, (and none of us are included in this I imagine!!), they use only two or at a push, three programmes out of the many that are offered on some machines so the Moon is a perfect choice. Just push one button and you are done. For the majority of the population for whom laundry is a chore that is done out of necessity, it offers the perfect solution. I wish they had been around when my mother was buying a new machine as it is PERFECT for her!! That way, I wouldn't have had to do the tutorial that I did!!
The reality is that if most people thought about it, (and none of us are included in this I imagine!!), they use only two or at a push, three programmes out of the many that are offered on some machines so the Moon is a perfect choice. Just push one button and you are done. For the majority of the population for whom laundry is a chore that is done out of necessity, it offers the perfect solution. I wish they had been around when my mother was buying a new machine as it is PERFECT for her!! That way, I wouldn't have had to do the tutorial that I did!!
aquarius1984
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I Read The Moon Manual
and extra rinse is done by pressing 2 buttons simultaneously. As are couple of extra cycles. But yet no 95degree wash. How does one do a maintenance wash? 60deg is not hot enough to remove the slime that accumulates in our LG. Dare say the same in this. Also I worry that if you got a suds lock spin or loaded it well with towels, water would cascade into the fabric softener compartment on the door which is by no means sealed. There is an inch gap between the top of the door seal and the opening on the dispenser. With no real means of sealing surely the softener will be contaminated. No, sorry this machine along with its Plastic Twin the Aqualtis looks far too cheap for my liking. Like that Indesit Graffiti Fridge Freezer which was short lived I hope they have sense to pull both lines off soon.
and extra rinse is done by pressing 2 buttons simultaneously. As are couple of extra cycles. But yet no 95degree wash. How does one do a maintenance wash? 60deg is not hot enough to remove the slime that accumulates in our LG. Dare say the same in this. Also I worry that if you got a suds lock spin or loaded it well with towels, water would cascade into the fabric softener compartment on the door which is by no means sealed. There is an inch gap between the top of the door seal and the opening on the dispenser. With no real means of sealing surely the softener will be contaminated. No, sorry this machine along with its Plastic Twin the Aqualtis looks far too cheap for my liking. Like that Indesit Graffiti Fridge Freezer which was short lived I hope they have sense to pull both lines off soon.
I don't know what they were thinking when they designed this machine!? Why would you want the detergent and softener dispenser on the inside of the door ?!? I can't really see any problem with the long established, and highly successful drawer arrangement that every other machine on the market has.
Also, why get rid of the glass porthole ? It's one of the thing people like about front loaders!. Even non-enthusiasts like to see their washing going around. At least you know that the machine's doing something!
Why would you want so few programmes ?
It's the worst machine i've ever seen! - A major step backwards in design, even for Indesit !
Also, why get rid of the glass porthole ? It's one of the thing people like about front loaders!. Even non-enthusiasts like to see their washing going around. At least you know that the machine's doing something!
Why would you want so few programmes ?
It's the worst machine i've ever seen! - A major step backwards in design, even for Indesit !
newwave1
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The thing i have to wonder, with no window, how are engineers suppost to SEE if the machine is functioning properly? How will they be able diagonose tumbling, spinning, water levels, faults etc. All gone. i dont like that idea at all.
Darren
Darren
hoovermatic
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The detergent dispenser on a Hotpoint Slimline TL is more or less the same as the Moon. It's mounted on the lid and similarly, an engineer can't see what is going on. I can't imagine they haven't thought of these things in advance! This machine might not appeal to purists but it has a definate place in the market. Let's face it, the majority of the public are not as 'concerned' about laundry as we are!
hoovermatic
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Yes, I wonder what the built in obsolescence of a Moon is - judging by the video about 3 weeks!
To Hoovermatic...
Regarding the "Moon"... HOw is the performence rating? I have grave doubts about it.... If the performance on my BOL Indesit which is 3 months old ( and now showing signs on wear and tear.... noisier, not always making up to speed on spin and even on longest cottons -programmes... poor results.)
You can understand my indifference to the new product if they can't even get their basics right. Oh, by the way, it rinses twice only..... spins to 800 immediately on cottons, synthetices, delicates and wool programmes after wash, and rinse!!!! What is that all about!!!!
Peter
Regarding the "Moon"... HOw is the performence rating? I have grave doubts about it.... If the performance on my BOL Indesit which is 3 months old ( and now showing signs on wear and tear.... noisier, not always making up to speed on spin and even on longest cottons -programmes... poor results.)
You can understand my indifference to the new product if they can't even get their basics right. Oh, by the way, it rinses twice only..... spins to 800 immediately on cottons, synthetices, delicates and wool programmes after wash, and rinse!!!! What is that all about!!!!
Peter
hoovermatic
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According to Comet, it's wash grade A, energy efficiency A and spin grade B. The more I hear about it the more it seems they need to go back to the drawing board! I still think the concept is a good one - they have executed it badly.
Indesit Moon...
If that is their best effort.... no... simple as that.
Like I said... if their standard is extremely poor, then how, with less programmes can they launch something as TOL? HAve they finally done their homework....???
And also how can Which? give Zanussi a 1* for rinsing??? They havent seen a BOL Indesit rinsing with a 3/4 load of cottons!!!! More of a white scene on final rinse than Andorra in January!!!!
I will never be impressed with Indesit, unless they prove us all wrong!
Peter
If that is their best effort.... no... simple as that.
Like I said... if their standard is extremely poor, then how, with less programmes can they launch something as TOL? HAve they finally done their homework....???
And also how can Which? give Zanussi a 1* for rinsing??? They havent seen a BOL Indesit rinsing with a 3/4 load of cottons!!!! More of a white scene on final rinse than Andorra in January!!!!
I will never be impressed with Indesit, unless they prove us all wrong!
Peter
Hoovermatic!!!
Back to the Drawing Board!!!!! I cannot believe some of these designers with their degrees get paid huge amounts of money to design their programmes and machines when we collectively have the knowledge that a degree could not give!!!! (Experience)
Peter
Back to the Drawing Board!!!!! I cannot believe some of these designers with their degrees get paid huge amounts of money to design their programmes and machines when we collectively have the knowledge that a degree could not give!!!! (Experience)
Peter
hoovermatic
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I agree entirely with what you are saying! There has been 40+ years of FL washer experience to draw on in the UK alone and this is the best they can do? That aside, I believe the concept is a good one.
