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Remember to always listen to everything a man says who can't even spell half of his words correctly. Opinions and experiences are allowed to vary. To each his own. Also remember nobody is right all the time. We are all only human. Hope THIS helps.
 
One of the biggest reasons the Herrin and Searcy washers were heavily produced is money. There was a bit of talk about Govt. energy standards and using materials that cost less energy wise to produce but the main reason was still money. It costs less to make a machine out of lighter metal and lots of plastic.

The Searcy Amanas (SAV's) were a problem child to begin with. The biggest issue being the poorly milled upper transmission shafts that spun out of round and knocked that crappy triple lip tub seal around. This, of course, cased leakage which trashed the tub bearing and also the spin bearing in the milkstool support. I've killed many SAV's for this as the repair entails replacing the transmission, tub seals and bearings and the whole milkstool tub support (this was later changed by making the spin bearing available separately) and STILL there was a possibility that the problem would reoccur (and frequently did). Also seeing quite a few go bye bye due to the milkstool support assy breaking at the spot welds due to light metal didn't help. This is the washer that helped kill Maytag's reputation in laundry but that's what you get when you buy a company and then demand that the cost to manufacture, per unit, be reduced by $30 - $70. The demise of a once proud line was assured.

That being said, I don't have a large problem with the Herrin built Magic Chef/Norge laundry. It did what it was supposed to do. Fill a niche. Provide a machine with decent capacity, a range of features from basic to super fancy, and be available to consumers who may not have a ton of money to burn in their budget. Repair wise, they didn't have a abnormal amount of issues either. The thrust bearing/transmission pulley (which was upgraded to a new kit with only 2 moving parts for more reliability), the pumps (also upgraded and a better design) and the occasional bad transmission. As I always say, it's the devil you know...
 
There is no adjustment on the braking force of the brake assembly.

X2, the lug stop adjustment (1/4" - 3/8" play) doesn't affect brake performance.

There is no vent hole in a MT transmission to worry about leaking oil out of.

X2, although I believe the pre-helical transmissions had a vent hole. I've stored helical transmissions on their side and even upside down for years at a time with zero leakage. Don't try that with a Maytag wringer though!
 
indexing Maytag 806 and other questions about it.

Just purchased a 1975 Maytag 806 washer. Washer indexes (rotates clockwise a couple inches during agitation cycle instead of being still). It still gets the clothes clean though.
2. The agitation was weak so I pulled the motor towards me (towards the front of the machine) and its agitation speed picked up to normal. Followed advice from another thread and added one additional spring. That solved that problem.
3. Before and after the extra spring, I lubricated the glides, but noticed (with the front panel off), that the motor doesn't really glide back and forth, it just seems to shake a little when it goes from agitate to spin. (after lubricating, I moved motor back and forth by hand to make sure it moves; it seems to rock somewhat) Is it supposed to behave like that? What's the throw (distance) that the motor is supposed to be moving back and forth on the glide tray when moving from agitate to spin?
4. Still don't know if I should get a brake package to repair, but is the indexing going to affect strain on the motor? After all, the motor is already turning the agitator, then if you ad the weight of the tub moving clockwise that would seem to be an additional strain on it. Thanks for any assistance. Only paid 20 dollars for it but it looks in pretty good shape. Les
 
Indexing Tub MT

Some tub indexing is normal with this age MT, in the later production Helical Drive MTs they used a stronger brake and this brake will fit all MT HD washers from 1956-2006. But the reason for the stronger brake was not because of indexing but rather to help meet ULs safety standards. The slight indexing of a heavily loaded MT washer will NOT HURT ANYTHING and the indexing actually lessons the load on the washers motor.

Otherwise the looseness or wobble of your motor on its rollers sounds normal to me, I think you are getting about as good a wash from this washer as possible.

John L.
 
Thanks very much.

I was concerned that this "indexing" was causing the motor to strain somewhat.
As I have never seen these machines run before, I didn't know what it was supposed to look like when it was running and when it shifted from agitate to spin.

The only other problem that I have with it is that, with the knob pushed in, as I rotate it (clockwise) to select the type of wash I want,the light flickers on and off. I thought the light was only supposed to be on when the knob was pulled out. Is this normal for the light to flicker on and off as it is rotated? Thanks much. Les.
 
While the drive lug does not affect brake performance, if not adjusted properly, it can cause the brake to not be fully engaged during agitation and thus cause indexing.
 
what's a drive lug?

Novice to these types of repairs. Not sure what a drive lug is. Is is that strange looking washer on the very bottom after you take the rubber cap off? Will try looking it up. thanks much for the info and suggestion. Les.
 
Yes, that is the drive lug. It is splined to the transmission input shaft. When the pulley is driven CCW (viewed from below the pulley) the pulley lug engages the drive lug which rotates the input shaft. When you rotate the pulley in the CW direction for spin, as soon as you start to feel resistance from the brake being engaged, there should be 1/4" to 3/8" clearance between the drive lug and the pulley lug.
 
will try that

Don't have the time right now, but am going to try to do that later on and see if it does anything. It still runs and clean fine. I don't think it hurts it to do that,(index), but when I look at the youtube videos online, the other similiar maytags are not indexing. thanks again. Les.
 
light flickering

Still can't figure out the light flickering issue. That is, the knob is pushed in and rotated clockwise to select which wash you want, and the fluorescent light goes on an off repeatedly (flickering) as you turn the knob. When it's pulled out, it stays on until the wash is complete. Les.
 
IN SOME WASHERS WITH CONSOLE LIGHTS-

the light may operate on where the cycle knob is located in the cycle whether or not the knob is pushed or pulled to actually turn the machine on. When the cycle indicator is in an "OFF" spot on the dial it also turns the light off in the console. So as you're turning the cycle selector to the proper point as it goes thru the different "OFF" spots on the dial it will cause the light to flicker off and back on.

I know some Kenmore's use to be like this. It could also be the case with your machine as well even though it's a Maytag.
 
that is exactly what it is doing

It's doing just that. I was just wondering if somebody else had this 806 model and theirs was behaving in a similar way. I don't have an operating manual for it. It's probably normal, I just don't know. Never had an appliance with a lighted console. Thanks much . Les
 
issues; re ; 806

Rick and DaDoes; The console light was flickering repeatedly all through the rotation of the dial,and now it goes off only when I pass it through the end of each of the cycles. I've used it a few times, and maybe there was some dust on the contacts that cleaned up with repeated use. Thanks. I think this is probably normal but it would take someone else who uses this model to verify.Earth to Sandy, come in, over.
Fairbanks56; I tried adjusting it the way you said (which is exactly what the 94 to 97 dependable care manual says), and it still indexes. I can't find a manual for this year machine, I only have the 94 to 97 manual which is probably operationally similiar.
It turns the tub about 1/8 of a full rotation (clockwise) each time the agitator strokes to the left. So after about 8 agitator strokes the tub has gone around one full time. This is on a small load setting with some or no clothes in it. Does it at all levels too. Clothes still get clean, it just looks weird and I don't see any of the other maytag machines doing this.
John; I have a used Dependable Care machine (needing repairs) that I got for free. It has the orbital looking transmission. Would the brake off that fit the 75 806? I don't know if they call that orbital looking transmission a "helical" or not. Thanks much to all. Still using the machine regularly. Les
 
Brake Assembly For An A806 MT Washer

Yes the brake assembly will fit your washer from a newer helical drive MT washer [ all MT TL washers with two belts are technically helical drive washers ] The term helical drive comes from the helical cut in the bottom of the transmission input shaft and all above mentioned MT washers have this feature regardless of whether they have the earlier or later style transmission.

John L.
 

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