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External door

ASKO sold various versions of this machine globally, some of which had no external door. However, if you have a model with the door it must be closed when the spin is due to start or it won't occur and opening it while the machine is spinning will cause the brake to come on and the machine to come to a screeching stop.

 

Other than that, feel free to open the outer door and watch her tumble!
 
Door Brake

Hi Chris, you can use these with the "Door Down" even the spin, there`s no cable brake attached to the door, the worst that would happen was if the load was unbalanced and vibration caused the drop down door to move and slowly rise up....at washins the lads just dropped a tea towel on the door edge and would sit there for the duration...right Lavamat jon...LOl

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Ok...seems the folks from Automatic Washer.org managed to tell ASKO of our requirements then
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Again, there is no way you can fit 8 kg of laundry into this small 2.4 IEC capacity regardless of what the manufacturer says - it's a pipe dream. It's physically impossible unless you are wrapping bricks in your laundry. The standard rule of thumb is 1 kg laundry capacity per 10 liters of drum volume. A 60 liter drum will take 6 kg, an 80 liter drum 8kg, and so on. Anything else is marketing = BS.
 
I'm seeing some odd behavior.

The machine DOES clean well. But I'm seeing some odd behavior that I think might be a hardware bug.

1. Sometimes the machine 'hangs' while pumping and just .. pumps. Until you shut it off.

2. Sometimes the machine does not open the door at end of cycle. Manually trying to open the door does not work (using the 'open door' button I mean).

I had a tech out and he replaced the circuit board. The problem went away. BUT then I realized he hadn't programmed the board for this machine. When he came back and did so, sometimes the problems reoccur.

I'm wondering if it is a program bug.

Having said that it STILL cleans extremely well!

Any ideas what could be it?

As for capacity: My king sized thick cotton mattress pad fills up the dryer. A larger dryer WOULD be nice, but <shrug> I'll put up with the slight smallness for something that cleans so clean.

IIRC the 20 amp washer plug that plugs into the back of the dryer is a standard 20 amp 220 v plug , with one vertical and one horizontal plug.

The dryer itself plugs into standard North American 220 V 30 amp dryer outlet.

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Congratulations Hunter!

Has ASKO moved away from the rinse sequence they used in their earlier machines of two rinses followed by spinning? I have seen it in operation and it did not rinse as well as a Miele W1986 which extracts (on cottons) very well after the wash and after each of the three rinses.
 
No,

They still seem to do that.

I always set for an extra 3 rinses, due to wife's allergies to detergents.
 
No,

They still seem to do that.

I always set for an extra 3 rinses, due to wife's allergies to detergents.
 
@AZREOspecialist

No, Back in the olden days it was correct your theory that 10liters for ever 1KG this is so that within the wash time you got a clean result.
However nowadays manufacturers can add an extra 1KG or 1.5KG to the 60l drum for instance, so washing 7.5KG. this is because as the future has moved on, more laws have came in that heaters must be energy efficient and all machines must be A wash performance etc, so Manufacturers increase the rated capacity and extend the wash time, they increase spin lengths and use different rinsing techniques.
Plus in a Bosch Logixx 8 you can fit an 8KG load of t-shirts (40) in the drum, and still have slight movement between (thats 65l). The duration of the wash is quite long at 2:20 but at the end the machine has washed and rinsed pretty well, much better in fact than old machines which only hold less washing.
In fact manufacturers also realised people always overloaded their machines - in fact I quite regularly stuff 8KG in my Hotpoint WM31 - it fits, machine motor copes, just very little movement - manufacturers decided that as people overload, we'll increase the capacity in the same size drum, and then use different motor, that way less breakdown (from motor) that's why some come with 10 year guarantees to try sell the machine.
Only washer fans know that they aren't using stated capacity drums, but general public don't care, so long as it cleans, has a 40 wash and has a short programme/option. Infact no-one has ever written on review size, the clothes don't all fit in the drum, because no one would care if that was the case.
I agree that 11KG cant fit in a 71l drum (like Hotpoint claim) or 12kG fits in a 74l drum (like Samsung Claim) - they are just marketing campaigns, but smaller capacity is correct.

Thats my opinion, but I believe you older* people that think 10l in 1Kg need to move on a little, no manufacturer (Not even Miele) gives 10 litres into 1KG on a home machine.

*No offence to be taken, and completely my own judgement, modern technology is here now, not a timer dial that clicks as it moves.
 
Older Machines And Rinses

Many older European/UK front loaders had one, two or even three (as my Miele) deep rinses before spinning for two main reasons.

The first was to make sure cotton and linen fibers were cool enough from the routine "boil" wash temps >180F before being spun in order to prevent creasing. Other reason was to make sure much of the detergent/soap was rinsed away to prevent excess froth from choking the pump (suds lock).

Of course these machines were mainly mechanical timer controlled and later electronic but still no where near as complex as today's washers.

Modern front loaders can be made to sense internal temps as to determine if textiles need "cooling" rinses before being spun. Then there is of course as boil washing becomes less and less the norm all that cooling down isn't required.

However the main change has been with the detergents themselves which have changed. The best detergents on the other side of the pond create nil to no suds and rinse far cleaner that the "low" sudsing stuff of the past which still could create enough suds to cause problems.

Modern front loaders for domestic use have also taken a page from commercial gravity drain units where the valves are open but the pump shuts off for a short time. This allows the water/froth to "dump" without the possible harm of suds lock and or machine having to slow down/abort spins.
 

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